Carry on with your mouthbreathing ignorance

Nice stab, though I’ve never read Evola. Wikipedia has done more to wake me on the Jewish question than anything, and simply by seeing who has Jewish family

lol I haven't even been talking about the JQ with you

are you really this much of a small minded dolt?

You cannot even keep your thoughts in order

You bounce around like a pingpong ball

My entire interactions with you revolve around the Jewish question

it's tedious to speak with you, because your brain doesn't follow the conventions of rational thought

nor have you learned the basic rudiments of conversation nor debate

you are woefully stupid

I’m attempting to get an admission from you on your tribes toxic influence on culture and you vehemently deny it, then paradoxically assert Jewish superiority

first of all

there's no paradox there

secondly

Of course there is

you are injecting YOUR moral reasoning without explaining it

and assuming the other person identifies with it when he has clearly stated that he doesn't

thirdly that shows that you are not engaging this discussion in good faith

If they were superior then they would dominate the culture, if not they wouldn’t be able to

those two concepts are not bound by logical necessity as you imply

goy, you are outranked here

your IQ is far too low to grapple with me

You attack America culturally and whitewash the Jewish influence on it. Honestly that’s the only source I need that you aren’t in good faith

That’s disingenuousness epitomized

I never "whitewashed" the Jewish influence. You clearly are not reading anything I am writing, and trying to browbeat your narrative onto my words like an amateur blacksmith pounding the metal without heating it to the right temperature

Also, there were three deeply embarrassing contradictions in your claim that do not stand up to logical scrutiny, and furthermore I have counted several solecisms that reveal someone who has reached his early 20s and has a ludicrously high opinion of himself without mastering his native language.

Think carefully about your retort, because you've embarrassed yourself enough for one day

There's no need to spew out all the words right as they reach your tiny hippocampus

You have not once admitted to any negative influence from Jews ever in the West. If you start acknowledging it and thence bring in some nuance then there will be some reason to believe in good faith discussion that we can build from

I have said almost three times now.

That I concede Jews contributed to historical tensions

First time, actually

Wrong.

With me, anyway

Scroll back up

I said it three times

Screenshot it

in this discussion

Anyone who was paying attention say it

and if you choose to assume my dishonest then that is on you

I, however, I repeated myself multiple times but your reading comprehension is too poor to follow

Twice you have said you admit it with others, that I’m sure you can see is not an admission of one of my points

You are more interested in your narrative than having a discussion.

You make a poor conversationalist and you are woefully inadequate scholar.

I suggest you pick up a handicraft because you are VERY VERY VERY mentally limited

"You have not once admitted to any negative influence from Jews ever in the West. If you start acknowledging it and thence bring in some nuance then there will be some reason to believe in good faith discussion that we can build from" and this is called "begging the question"

Why would I myself engage in a good faith conversation with a Jew who won’t reciprocate?

I have been attempting to reciprocate several times. My Judaism has nothing to do with our conversation about art history which displayed your ineptitude for everyone to see.

Your admission of Jewish influence has been so limited compared with your endless apologies for them and poor attempts to gaslight

It is YOU who failed to defend his broad strokes.

"admission of Jewish influence"

You are putting words in my mouth.

You are so fixated on begging the question

You cannot just have a discussion about art history without bringing it back to Jews and trying to make me admit to things I did not and have no intention of saying.

You are a man with a motive, and bad at carrying it out

Just give up.

You are just too stupid to keep up with me

accept it.

How can I level with you on where we agree when we disagree vehemently on the cause of the west’s limitations and failures?

Address the cause and you can work on a solution

First of all

You speak with platitudes and hyperbole

Diagnostics is the most important field of medicine

"limitations and failures"

this is not medicine

Of course it is

The west is sick

We lost a lot of subs today

You do not treat culture like a cadaver

Remember brothers

MDE never dies.

Firstly, my imbecilic little goytoy

It’s possibly less complex than a human body in many ways

Culture is far more complex

Not in modern times

What the fuck

are you talking about?

Media is more centralized

🤤

That doesn't make culture any less complicated

Has more impact

the rise of niche culture and the dawn of globalisation has made things far more complicated than ever before

Sure it does, it’s a matter of inputs and outputs

you overstate the impact of media

that's not all culture boils down to

culture has many facets

No, media is key in today’s world

media is not centralised

Statistically

media is dispersed over multiple mediums

and there are generation gaps on who accesses what medium

this is vastly complicated stuff

The generation and reception of image-ideas is centralized

and you boil it down to MUH JEWS MUH HOLLYWOOD

that sounds like leftist hubris to me

and it's just plain wrong

you have no concept of consumer behaviour

Not really

Lol

you have not read one report on it

you are speculating based on your small anecdotal window into the world

You just accuse of ignorance without any attempt to suggest why you accuse

It’s such a lazy discourse style

it's painfully obvious that you lack any formal education with the way you construct your claims

Yeah, you are a troll

you speak with platitudes and hyberboles and never bother defining your terms

I am damn serious right now

A bad actor

you are fucking dumb as a brick

the west is sick and we have to diagnose the disease

okay

what are the symptoms

You have such a skewed worldview, and see not even half the coin

how does media impact them

what is your moral framework you are analyzing these problems with

you harp on and on while not even expressing coherently the thoughts in your mind.

you are incapable of it

you probably haven't even reflected on them enough to put them into words

most of your views are emotional reactions

it's obvious by the way you speak

Moral frameworks do not translate into action, and thence they are useless

you are judging present conditions as immmoral

Never said that

so you are relying on some internal ethical code

you heavily implied it

dont backpedal now

if you have an issue with how things are now, then you need to be coherent about why.

the burden of proof is on you

Immoral is evil, and present conditions aren’t evil

not everyone instinctively agrees with you

that's incorrect

not all ethical frameworks have such a black and white view of morality

Someone fornicating is wrong, someone encouraging fornication and sinning is evil

so you are relying on a catholic doctrine?

that's a moral framework

and it's very relevant to your worldview

state these assumptions before making claims and expecting people to be mind readers and know where you are coming from.

your argument thus far can be distilled down to this

"i dont like what i see" -> "I think it's the jews" -> "YOU DISAGREE?? FUCK YOU JEW SHILL REEEEE"

the drug addled thoughts of a lazy teenager

no, its not a framework in a philosophical sense

its the personal synergy of biological, economical, psychological and theological understanding

>personal synergy

there lies your problem

You are basically straw manning his argument tho, so you are at fault as well @Deleted User

you speak as if EVERYONE should know and accept your worldview

@! Blanc Spooky Lowee you are coming in late here

you keep begging the question every time i try to engage you

I know, but i had to point it out

>admit Jewish influence has had a negative effect

it's not a strawman at this point

yeah, well @! Blanc Spooky Lowee just understand thats his MO to use fallacy as part and parcel of his style

and deny it vehemently

he's been doing nothing but begging the question and then claiming im trying to deflect

I never accepted your premise in the first place

But it was and i saw you use it currently, you are boiling down his arguments and making it look weaker.

and you keep acting like any subsequent sentence i write is avoiding your point that you have been granted through divine intervention because YOU and YOU ALONE are a culture helmsman of such a higher order than anyone else who came befor eyou

@! Blanc Spooky Lowee that is his argument. it's not a strawman. it's an accurate description of his rhetoric thus far.

he as at no point tried to define his values and how he deconstructs the present based on them (a way of thought he engages in despite saying deconstructionism is cancerous)

""i dont like what i see" -> "I think it's the jews" -> "YOU DISAGREE?? FUCK YOU JEW SHILL REEEEE"."

This is accurate? I came in and saw him talking about how porn is immoral.

Or fornicating rather.

Okay, ill lay out a simple version. Human sin is appetite fulfillment. Its our fatal weakness. We seek pleasure beyond the point of satisfaction. we seek it for pleasure itself and continue seeking it after satiation would be possible. This is what i understand sin to be. It should be the goal of society to discourage this sort of sin since it is hedonism. Instead, we have a media complex that encourages appetite fulfillment and hedonism and consumerism without exception, without shame, etc etc. This is , in many ways, a natural state of man. That doesnt make it right, and in fact its quite wrong.

I've asked him several times to explain WHY he sees porn as immoral

and he just engages in rhetoric about Jews

and how I'm trying to obscure and muddy the conversation

Thence my statement that sin [most sin] isnt evil, but encouragement of sin is evil

instead of revealing to us his ethical framework that he so rigorously deconstructs the world based on

you didnt ask me many times why

its evil for what i said

"sin"

define sin

You keep doing this

consumming porn isnt even, its wrong and a sin, but making and promoting porn is evil

speaking with vague terms

i just defined it

why is it a sin

by my conception

reading comprehension?

is hedonism really your answer

you do not seem to understand that concept either

thats an easy way for you to understand it

but not quite so simple

activities that give pleasure are not necessarily hedonistic

hedonism is the pursuit of pleasure as the ends in of itself

you keep misusing terms

you do not understand the concepts you are talking about

eating to excess, sex for reasons other than procreation, etc etc etc

um

Yeah, i can see earlier how he was talking about the JQ, but right when i saw both of your comments he wasn't, anyway that'a all i wanted to say.

thats exactly how i mean hedonism though

He keeps trying to bring the JQ into it where it is not relevant to ad hom me

hedonism is appetite fulfillment beyond satiation

that's not correct

its bent desire

that is not the definition of hedonism

thats how u defined it

wrong

you said for pleasure itself

it's the pursuit of pleasure as an ends

which means its not fulfilling any needs

which is how i explained it

that's a corollary that you added and it is not correct

do you struggle with reading comprehension?

the problem is you do not know the definitions for the terms you are abusing

i do, but instead of engaging in a good faith discussion you want to pick each word to distract from the bigger picture

and nice to see that the only wit you can generate is stolen from me

once again i am reminded that you seem to be a bad actor in this discussion

if you are misusing a term as simple as hedonism

never advancing the discussion

to define a concept that you are using to deconstruct the world

just nitpicking

then your worldview is simply built on straws.

and proves my point that you are largely ignorant

the point i was making was a simple one

and just having an emotional reaction to society

and trying to intellectualise it in vain

you just are stuck in your masturbatory loops

what a lost cause

you are just not of my caliber

just go masturbate about yourself

you are not of my caliber

a total waste

too academic

yes, i am glad to not be

i would kill myself if i was this stupid

knowledge for masturbation sake is a waste

knowledge that cannot translate to action is masturbation

presumptive about my motives

and what action do you take

masturbating your half baked thoughts about the world on discord

hoping people as illiterate as you will agree

you can think that. sadly you are mistaken and there are many actions to fulfill my worldview

healthy, progressive and positive actions to act on my worldview

I hope your actions land you in the loony bin where you belong

that aim to improve community, society and etc

LOL

says the neurotic jew off his meds

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you get so frustrated when im making a point

then just start attacking

really a very primitive impulse

you have not made one coherent point

ah yes, i forgot about your reading comprehension struggles

its okay, my dude im sure you will achieve a 6th grade reading level before you turn 40

ah yes, his goldfish brain already forgot that he constructed a sentence with deeply embarrassing misuses of words

and too many solecisms to count.

so stuck in the academia mind-loops. you have trained yourself to be less useful than machine learning

>I can just define words however I like and FUCK THE WORLD IF THEY DONT UNDERSTAND

nevermind that we built a linguistic system over hundreds of years so we can more EFFECTIVELY communicate with each other

those are just archaic traditions