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he's been doing nothing but begging the question and then claiming im trying to deflect
I never accepted your premise in the first place
But it was and i saw you use it currently, you are boiling down his arguments and making it look weaker.
and you keep acting like any subsequent sentence i write is avoiding your point that you have been granted through divine intervention because YOU and YOU ALONE are a culture helmsman of such a higher order than anyone else who came befor eyou
@! Blanc Spooky Lowee that is his argument. it's not a strawman. it's an accurate description of his rhetoric thus far.
he as at no point tried to define his values and how he deconstructs the present based on them (a way of thought he engages in despite saying deconstructionism is cancerous)
""i dont like what i see" -> "I think it's the jews" -> "YOU DISAGREE?? FUCK YOU JEW SHILL REEEEE"."
This is accurate? I came in and saw him talking about how porn is immoral.
Or fornicating rather.
Okay, ill lay out a simple version. Human sin is appetite fulfillment. Its our fatal weakness. We seek pleasure beyond the point of satisfaction. we seek it for pleasure itself and continue seeking it after satiation would be possible. This is what i understand sin to be. It should be the goal of society to discourage this sort of sin since it is hedonism. Instead, we have a media complex that encourages appetite fulfillment and hedonism and consumerism without exception, without shame, etc etc. This is , in many ways, a natural state of man. That doesnt make it right, and in fact its quite wrong.
I've asked him several times to explain WHY he sees porn as immoral
and he just engages in rhetoric about Jews
and how I'm trying to obscure and muddy the conversation
Thence my statement that sin [most sin] isnt evil, but encouragement of sin is evil
instead of revealing to us his ethical framework that he so rigorously deconstructs the world based on
you didnt ask me many times why
its evil for what i said
"sin"
define sin
You keep doing this
consumming porn isnt even, its wrong and a sin, but making and promoting porn is evil
i just defined it
why is it a sin
by my conception
reading comprehension?
is hedonism really your answer
you do not seem to understand that concept either
thats an easy way for you to understand it
but not quite so simple
activities that give pleasure are not necessarily hedonistic
hedonism is the pursuit of pleasure as the ends in of itself
you keep misusing terms
you do not understand the concepts you are talking about
eating to excess, sex for reasons other than procreation, etc etc etc
um
Yeah, i can see earlier how he was talking about the JQ, but right when i saw both of your comments he wasn't, anyway that'a all i wanted to say.
thats exactly how i mean hedonism though
He keeps trying to bring the JQ into it where it is not relevant to ad hom me
hedonism is appetite fulfillment beyond satiation
that's not correct
its bent desire