Message from @Jay1532

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2018-09-11 06:41:06 UTC  

you keep begging the question every time i try to engage you

2018-09-11 06:41:08 UTC  

I know, but i had to point it out

2018-09-11 06:41:11 UTC  

>admit Jewish influence has had a negative effect

2018-09-11 06:41:17 UTC  

it's not a strawman at this point

2018-09-11 06:41:18 UTC  

yeah, well @! Blanc Spooky Lowee just understand thats his MO to use fallacy as part and parcel of his style

2018-09-11 06:41:21 UTC  

and deny it vehemently

2018-09-11 06:41:30 UTC  

he's been doing nothing but begging the question and then claiming im trying to deflect

2018-09-11 06:41:34 UTC  

I never accepted your premise in the first place

2018-09-11 06:42:01 UTC  

But it was and i saw you use it currently, you are boiling down his arguments and making it look weaker.

2018-09-11 06:42:07 UTC  

and you keep acting like any subsequent sentence i write is avoiding your point that you have been granted through divine intervention because YOU and YOU ALONE are a culture helmsman of such a higher order than anyone else who came befor eyou

2018-09-11 06:42:33 UTC  

@! Blanc Spooky Lowee that is his argument. it's not a strawman. it's an accurate description of his rhetoric thus far.

2018-09-11 06:43:13 UTC  

he as at no point tried to define his values and how he deconstructs the present based on them (a way of thought he engages in despite saying deconstructionism is cancerous)

2018-09-11 06:43:28 UTC  

""i dont like what i see" -> "I think it's the jews" -> "YOU DISAGREE?? FUCK YOU JEW SHILL REEEEE"."

This is accurate? I came in and saw him talking about how porn is immoral.

2018-09-11 06:43:36 UTC  

Or fornicating rather.

2018-09-11 06:43:38 UTC  

Okay, ill lay out a simple version. Human sin is appetite fulfillment. Its our fatal weakness. We seek pleasure beyond the point of satisfaction. we seek it for pleasure itself and continue seeking it after satiation would be possible. This is what i understand sin to be. It should be the goal of society to discourage this sort of sin since it is hedonism. Instead, we have a media complex that encourages appetite fulfillment and hedonism and consumerism without exception, without shame, etc etc. This is , in many ways, a natural state of man. That doesnt make it right, and in fact its quite wrong.

2018-09-11 06:43:43 UTC  

I've asked him several times to explain WHY he sees porn as immoral

2018-09-11 06:43:51 UTC  

and he just engages in rhetoric about Jews

2018-09-11 06:43:57 UTC  

and how I'm trying to obscure and muddy the conversation

2018-09-11 06:44:05 UTC  

Thence my statement that sin [most sin] isnt evil, but encouragement of sin is evil

2018-09-11 06:44:14 UTC  

instead of revealing to us his ethical framework that he so rigorously deconstructs the world based on

2018-09-11 06:44:16 UTC  

you didnt ask me many times why

2018-09-11 06:44:21 UTC  

its evil for what i said

2018-09-11 06:44:26 UTC  

"sin"

2018-09-11 06:44:27 UTC  

define sin

2018-09-11 06:44:35 UTC  

You keep doing this

2018-09-11 06:44:37 UTC  

consumming porn isnt even, its wrong and a sin, but making and promoting porn is evil

2018-09-11 06:44:38 UTC  

speaking with vague terms

2018-09-11 06:44:43 UTC  

i just defined it

2018-09-11 06:44:44 UTC  

why is it a sin

2018-09-11 06:44:45 UTC  

by my conception

2018-09-11 06:44:57 UTC  

reading comprehension?

2018-09-11 06:45:14 UTC  

is hedonism really your answer

2018-09-11 06:45:19 UTC  

you do not seem to understand that concept either

2018-09-11 06:45:23 UTC  

thats an easy way for you to understand it

2018-09-11 06:45:28 UTC  

but not quite so simple

2018-09-11 06:45:30 UTC  

activities that give pleasure are not necessarily hedonistic

2018-09-11 06:45:41 UTC  

hedonism is the pursuit of pleasure as the ends in of itself

2018-09-11 06:45:45 UTC  

you keep misusing terms

2018-09-11 06:45:52 UTC  

you do not understand the concepts you are talking about

2018-09-11 06:45:55 UTC  

eating to excess, sex for reasons other than procreation, etc etc etc

2018-09-11 06:46:04 UTC  

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