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2018-06-17 15:33:37 UTC

I still want specifics on this genetic disorder Wendie

2018-06-17 15:33:39 UTC

And no

2018-06-17 15:33:54 UTC

Would you wanna be in a relationship where it feels like youโ€™re forcing it

2018-06-17 15:34:11 UTC

It doesnโ€™t have to be

2018-06-17 15:34:24 UTC

I don't know those sepcifics because like I said, getting it tested would have it on my record and make getting insurance harder

2018-06-17 15:34:29 UTC

But the notion of marriage based on purely attraction is not a strong marriage

2018-06-17 15:34:35 UTC

Okay but what do you know

2018-06-17 15:34:44 UTC

Is there just high rates of cancer in your family?

2018-06-17 15:35:25 UTC

But it should still have some level of attraction

2018-06-17 15:35:30 UTC

Almost everyone I know of in my family that came before me on one parent's side died of cancer

2018-06-17 15:36:00 UTC

Okay, thank you for clarifying, Iโ€™m fine with you being a degenerate now.

2018-06-17 15:36:14 UTC

Also relationships shouldn't just be about having children. What kind of life is that, to live just to have kids and they live just to have kids who live just to have kids?

2018-06-17 15:36:29 UTC

It's called "The survival of the human race ๐Ÿค”"

2018-06-17 15:36:31 UTC

The whole purpose of relationships is to have kids

2018-06-17 15:36:34 UTC

Pretty good life

2018-06-17 15:36:54 UTC

Yeah well we have 7 and a half billion and it's only going up

2018-06-17 15:37:03 UTC

I don't think a few gay people are gonna hurt that

2018-06-17 15:37:19 UTC

Why is survival even important?

2018-06-17 15:37:31 UTC

Wendie, I would recommend familiarizing yourself with the demographic transition model because your Malthusian ideas are ridiculous.

2018-06-17 15:37:48 UTC

it's going down in the west, and the upward rate is slowing globally.

And survival arguments aside, having children is one of the most fulfilling things you could ever do. Two big things:
- Free best friend who loves you and admires you (if you aren't a shit parent)
- When you're old someone will take care of you

2018-06-17 15:38:22 UTC

Our duty as a race is to survive together

2018-06-17 15:38:28 UTC

@Slendy good question let's just kill ourselves humanity is shit

2018-06-17 15:38:33 UTC

As a race or a species?

2018-06-17 15:38:45 UTC

If you want to be a nihilistic fag who doesnโ€™t have to forward themselves and heir people, go ahead

2018-06-17 15:38:45 UTC

Yes both for every race and the species as a whole I think

2018-06-17 15:38:51 UTC

I think itโ€™s a good question

2018-06-17 15:38:59 UTC

Our race, Wendie. But each race forwards themselves together.

2018-06-17 15:39:04 UTC

What actually makes survival important

2018-06-17 15:39:11 UTC

That question does Slendy

2018-06-17 15:39:20 UTC

without humans there would be no one to ask anything about right or wrong

2018-06-17 15:39:25 UTC

that question proves itself

2018-06-17 15:39:29 UTC

if you were dead you couldn't ask it

2018-06-17 15:39:31 UTC

Survival is the basic building block and nature of life itself

2018-06-17 15:39:36 UTC

and no one could, humans are the only ones who ever have

2018-06-17 15:39:38 UTC

What about survival of a bloodline?

2018-06-17 15:39:48 UTC

without humans there are no morals, no right, no wrong, no thought, just blind animal kingdom

2018-06-17 15:39:57 UTC

real nihilism, no meaning whatsoever

2018-06-17 15:40:04 UTC

This "survival" argument is bullshit tbh because humans are already way overpopulated

2018-06-17 15:40:28 UTC

You're oversimplifying it. Overpopulation is not going to be a concern.

2018-06-17 15:40:35 UTC

Wendie ffs please look up the demographic transition model right now

2018-06-17 15:40:43 UTC

Everyone forecasts that humans will cap out before 9B (number from memory). And that the west will seriously shrink in population.

2018-06-17 15:40:53 UTC

Specifically regarding the stage 5

2018-06-17 15:41:34 UTC

"What about survival of a bloodline?" why would someone not care about their bloodline?

2018-06-17 15:41:47 UTC

it seems instinctual and right to care about your immediate tribe the most (family/bloodline)

2018-06-17 15:41:50 UTC

with some exceptions probably

2018-06-17 15:42:12 UTC

Itโ€™s very instinctual

2018-06-17 15:42:14 UTC

Slendy, inside of you right now is history itself, literally the genes of thousands of people. They have fought to survive and forward their genes and they essentially live inside of you, when you procreate, you are adding your genes to that, something that will stand the test of time if your descendants follow the basic human instinct: to survive.

2018-06-17 15:42:33 UTC

Itโ€™s your legacy essentially

2018-06-17 15:42:59 UTC

Every other trace of you will be erased eventually, but your genes live on

2018-06-17 15:43:04 UTC

Countries like Japan are already facing crisis because of not enough workers. And it's only going to get worse unless they start having more kids.

2018-06-17 15:43:10 UTC

Old:Young ratio will be way too large.

2018-06-17 15:43:10 UTC

^^

2018-06-17 15:43:14 UTC

Exactly

2018-06-17 15:43:28 UTC

By trying to do โ€œpopulation reductionโ€ youโ€™re going to have a disaster

2018-06-17 15:43:44 UTC

Because you need proportional generations being born to support older generations

2018-06-17 15:44:03 UTC

Going up to 9B or 10B is not going to starve the world of energy, resources, food, or space.

2018-06-17 15:44:10 UTC

We have plenty of room to grow a bit more, and technology is beating our rate of growth ATM

2018-06-17 15:44:27 UTC

And no expert says we're going to grow indefinitely if you do research on the matter.

2018-06-17 15:44:30 UTC

What if we just did something useful with the land of third world countries

2018-06-17 15:44:47 UTC

Largescale and intentional reduction may be bad yes, but just me and one other woman deciding not to have children isn't going to hurt the population much and instead will allow us to help already-made children to have a better life than they otherwise would have

2018-06-17 15:45:05 UTC

But Wendy our birth rates are far below what they should be

2018-06-17 15:45:16 UTC

Weโ€™re heading towards catastrophe and our race is dying

2018-06-17 15:45:25 UTC

Weโ€™re becoming a minority in our own countries

2018-06-17 15:45:46 UTC

so?

2018-06-17 15:45:49 UTC

Most of the people I've been attracted to are people of color so

2018-06-17 15:45:52 UTC

awww poor you

2018-06-17 15:45:58 UTC

But since you have major genetic disorders, I support you not reproducing

2018-06-17 15:46:21 UTC

I donโ€™t think itโ€™s that bad of a genetic disorder

2018-06-17 15:46:23 UTC

I understand if you're gay @shlendie - that's not an easy life. But be careful deciding that having children is a bad idea - in fact, it's one of the most rewarding things you could ever do. And if adopting is your best choice as a gay couple, then you're doing some good there. Better than foster homes.

2018-06-17 15:46:36 UTC

Exactly

2018-06-17 15:46:46 UTC

If youโ€™re worried about reproducing then anything that causes cancer isnโ€™t much of a worry

2018-06-17 15:46:50 UTC

I dont think having children is a bad idea, I personally don't want to but yeah

2018-06-17 15:47:02 UTC

Having almost everyone in your family die of cancer is kinda serious

2018-06-17 15:47:07 UTC

@Logicpoints Im supprised you havent tried that spiel on me?

2018-06-17 15:47:24 UTC

@Josh42A it's never come up?

2018-06-17 15:47:37 UTC

ive talked about it before

2018-06-17 15:47:47 UTC

I have no plans to ever have children

2018-06-17 15:48:01 UTC

why?

2018-06-17 15:48:13 UTC

because its a waste of money

2018-06-17 15:48:26 UTC

That is the most selfish bullshit reason Iโ€™ve ever heard

2018-06-17 15:48:28 UTC

ok, if you could remove the monetary stretching and limitations, why?

2018-06-17 15:48:39 UTC

because their gross

2018-06-17 15:48:46 UTC

ok, they're gross for 5-10 years. why?

2018-06-17 15:48:50 UTC

This is shitty bait

2018-06-17 15:49:14 UTC

did you just wave away 5-10 years?

2018-06-17 15:49:27 UTC

like it was nothing

2018-06-17 15:49:36 UTC

did you just assume the 5-10 years while they grow up are "gone"?

2018-06-17 15:49:41 UTC

You aren't living your life

2018-06-17 15:49:45 UTC

You're trapped in a cage

2018-06-17 15:49:50 UTC

raising kids and miserable

2018-06-17 15:49:59 UTC

@Doctor Anon whatโ€™s up, doc?

2018-06-17 15:50:04 UTC

you are

2018-06-17 15:50:13 UTC

Not much

2018-06-17 15:50:27 UTC

Focusing on a project so not really active on here sorry

2018-06-17 15:50:28 UTC

You are if you suck at raising kids. Some of the happiest people I know are parents of young children.

2018-06-17 15:50:41 UTC

Okay, I just came back to the server to call you an asshole @Doctor Anon glad I finally got to do it

2018-06-17 15:50:50 UTC

some of the most miserable people I know are

2018-06-17 15:50:51 UTC

And you can get tons of work done while you do it if you follow a traditional parenting model.

2018-06-17 15:50:59 UTC

Well, they suck at it, hah.

2018-06-17 15:51:33 UTC

not to mention my CP could get genetically passed down

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