Message from @Logicpoints
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Wendie, I would recommend familiarizing yourself with the demographic transition model because your Malthusian ideas are ridiculous.
it's going down in the west, and the upward rate is slowing globally.
And survival arguments aside, having children is one of the most fulfilling things you could ever do. Two big things:
- Free best friend who loves you and admires you (if you aren't a shit parent)
- When you're old someone will take care of you
Our duty as a race is to survive together
@Slendy good question let's just kill ourselves humanity is shit
As a race or a species?
If you want to be a nihilistic fag who doesn’t have to forward themselves and heir people, go ahead
Yes both for every race and the species as a whole I think
I think it’s a good question
Our race, Wendie. But each race forwards themselves together.
What actually makes survival important
That question does Slendy
without humans there would be no one to ask anything about right or wrong
that question proves itself
if you were dead you couldn't ask it
Survival is the basic building block and nature of life itself
and no one could, humans are the only ones who ever have
What about survival of a bloodline?
without humans there are no morals, no right, no wrong, no thought, just blind animal kingdom
real nihilism, no meaning whatsoever
This "survival" argument is bullshit tbh because humans are already way overpopulated
Wendie ffs please look up the demographic transition model right now
Everyone forecasts that humans will cap out before 9B (number from memory). And that the west will seriously shrink in population.
Specifically regarding the stage 5
"What about survival of a bloodline?" why would someone not care about their bloodline?
it seems instinctual and right to care about your immediate tribe the most (family/bloodline)
with some exceptions probably
It’s very instinctual
Slendy, inside of you right now is history itself, literally the genes of thousands of people. They have fought to survive and forward their genes and they essentially live inside of you, when you procreate, you are adding your genes to that, something that will stand the test of time if your descendants follow the basic human instinct: to survive.
It’s your legacy essentially
Every other trace of you will be erased eventually, but your genes live on
Countries like Japan are already facing crisis because of not enough workers. And it's only going to get worse unless they start having more kids.
Old:Young ratio will be way too large.
^^
Exactly
By trying to do “population reduction” you’re going to have a disaster
Because you need proportional generations being born to support older generations
Going up to 9B or 10B is not going to starve the world of energy, resources, food, or space.
We have plenty of room to grow a bit more, and technology is beating our rate of growth ATM
And no expert says we're going to grow indefinitely if you do research on the matter.
What if we just did something useful with the land of third world countries