That’s a horrible thing to do

Children need a father figure

And they shouldn’t be exposed to degeneracy at a young age

Then I guess all single mothers should have their children taken away from them?

You’re strawmanning

I never made that claim

But a single mother home is considerably less strong and healthy than a traditional nuclear family

But it’s probably much better than being raised in an orphanage

How can you think that children having NO parents and living in foster care in distress and developing mental health issues is BETTER than having two loving parents that happen to be of the same sex?

I don’t think he said that

Adopting is great if you also have kids if your own. Adopting is not a replacement for reproduction.

And I didn’t say that wendie

Stop strawmanning

"Children need a father figure"
then all single mothers should have their children taken away from them
"I never made that claim"

Uh yeah

You’re jumping to conclusions that I never said

You literally just said children need a father figure, therefore children should not be raised by a single mother

Uh no

So do children need a father figure or not?

Go back and read what he wrote

It’s better for them to be raised in a traditional nuclear family with a father figure, I never proposed removing children from single mother homes

You can’t just attack claims that I’ve never made

I know you didn't, but if you're against me adopting because of children's "need" for a father figure, it's hypocrisy to be against lesbians adopting for lack of a man

while not for a single mother

If I were to say, “children should eat meat”, that doesn’t mean I want to remove children from all vegetarian homes

But I am against single mothers adopting

That doesn’t mean I’m proposing confiscating kids though

You can’t just assume that

But the fact of the matter is, a father and mother figure are essential to a child’s development

And the idea that you would want to deny your future children of that, is selfish and negligent

Studies find no differences in the mental health of children raised by gay parents vs straight, while children in foster care suffer from pstd more than our soldiers

Reallly

I’d like to see these supposed studies

https://qz.com/438469/the-science-is-clear-children-raised-by-same-sex-parents-are-at-no-disadvantage/

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/kids/study-finds-no-difference-between-children-raised-by-same-sex-and-heterosexual-couples/news-story/308b001dde36544b404db1a35cd31417

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3552042/The-kids-really-right-no-differences-children-sex-opposite-sex-parents-study-finds.html

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/studies-prove-no-differences-in-children-raised-by-gay-or-heterosexual-couples-1.2213132

https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-wellbeing-of-children-with-gay-or-lesbian-parents/

Just in case you needed a few different sources ^

Meanwhile, children in foster care are very likely to develop mental health issues
https://www.fosterfocusmag.com/articles/post-traumatic-stress-disorder-not-just-soldiers-problem
https://sparkaction.org/content/study-one-four-foster-children-suffer-ptsd

So how can you sit there and call me selfish for not wanting to bring more children into this world and instead help some children that would otherwise be miserable, when there is proof that my adopted children won't turn out any worse than if I were to marry a man?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-1027-goldberg-family-structure-20151027-column.html%3foutputType=amp

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/drt/2016/2410392/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X12000610

https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubPDFs/fatherhood.pdf

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4240051/

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/o1xf78EltKM/maxresdefault.jpg

Don't get me wrong, I am well aware that there are shocking statistics to show that children from fatherless homes are more likely to have issues, however, these types of fatherless homes aren't gay homes, but rather they tend to be situations where the father just left and the family is struggling to get by and dealing with more problems than just the absence of a man

Look at all the links wendie

That first link has "opinion" right in the name

But I'll still read

I’ve got stats regarding same sex couples too

Again, Adoption is noble but not a replacement for reproduction. If you want to adopt, go ahead, but you should also have children of your own in order to secure the existence of our people and to not destroy your bloodline.

Otherwise, after your death, you won’t live on through your children. Your genes will be destroyed forever. Thousands of years of lives and reproduction and history that lives inside you will be dead forever due to your personal choices.

I have a brother, my bloodline will be fine. I have cousins and they have kids, my decision to not have children won't hurt my bloodline

Besides, I have a few genetic problems such as being prone to cancer that I wouldn't want to put onto a child

But your genes specifically will be dead. You will have no legacy, you won’t live in through your children.

Hmmm

How severe are these genetic problems?

I read the first link, it brings up again that children not being adopted are worse off than children being adopted by a gay couple

Why should it matter? I don't want to have a child knowing I'm giving it a good chance of dying of cancer

How good of a chance and what cancer?

I’m just asking for specifics here

Why does bloodline even matter

It’s a meaningless goal

You’ll be forgotten in a few generations anyways

That doesn’t matter

You live in through your children

Literally

I agree slendy

So say I'm attracted only to black people, would you say that would hurt my bloodline if I were to have mixed children?

Absolutely

But before we get into a miscegenation debate

I asked you a question

And I'm saying that first off, the specifics don't really matter to the main point. Secondly, I don't know because getting it tested and having it on my record would hurt my chances of getting insurance

The specifics do matter to me

My entire stance rests upon your answer

When does it become not worth it to reproduce?

How bad do the mutations have to be

When humans are already reaching carrying capacity

That’s what I’m getting at here

Speaking from a eugenics standpoint, I’d like to know how much of a risk it would be for wendie to have kids.

A pretty high risk

That’s increasingly vague

A kid would also face emotional trauma from having a gay parent suppressing their feelings just to have a kid

Not really

Again it’s not about suppression, it’s about discipline

A relationship is not about sex

But there should be love between a mother and father

If not

It’ll set a horrible role model for the kid

a relationship should be about what both consenting people agree it is about
But yeah there should be love

Love isn’t about discipline

Yes it is

Marriage is a mutually beneficial dynamic of dedication towards your offspring

Maybe you’ve just had bad relationships

^

Just because you suffer from homosexual attraction, that doesn’t mean you can’t love your spouse

Yes it does

How

I've liked men too romantically but I'm not sexually attracted to them

🤔

And I’ve been in great relationships thank you very much, I currently am

But regardless

Are you forcing yourself to be in love?