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To successfully conceal Communism, and Globalism behind the banners of Liberalism and Progressivism.
And it worked
They changed California, they changed the demographics to put them in power, and then they Implemented their agenda
There's no sign of a massive amount of people rising up to stop it, because they don't know about it.
The media covers it all upZ
We're not only failing to gain support, we're losing it.
Democrats have record turnout, Republicans are demoralized because of inner fighting and poor candidates.
You just can't win against that.
We have no tangible advantage, furthermore there is 110 years of history to prove we're going to lose.
i guess its not doomposting if its based in fact
i know what its like to be in a social situation which looks grim as fuck but technically nothing is impissible just very improbable and win or lose whatever happened in the lst few years has galvanized a bunch of movements that have already changed the world. I would say for now we should figure out how to use all of that common ground to overcome the (((left))) because were gonna eat ourselves if we dont and they arent theyre just gonna follow the horde
im not even that good at redpilling normies i end up just edgeposting but i have normie friends and a lot of them arent retarded theyre just slowly onto redpills or are just set in being left but dont wanna go throwing bricks at people because of it.
Hi not even that good at redpilling normies i end up just edgeposting but i have normie friends and a lot of them arent retarded theyre just slowly onto redpills or are just set in being left but dont wanna go throwing bricks at people because of it., I'm Dad!
hi dad
@zakattack04 you're pretty good at thinking abstractly about these sorts of things, especially as a high schooler from California, but one wrong thing you keep repeating is your assertion that there is no point in history where progressivism has been reversed
Progressivem started in the enlightenment and the French have done away with many times.
@Winston That's different, the idea of being Progressive started in America in Wisconsin and spread throughout the US, the first real result was with TR and stuff.
@Deleted User I think I'm right.
We've never won against them.
In order to change that, we need evidence that this time it is different, that this time we have massive amounts of public support and they all have disgust with the Progressive.
Unfortunately it's the other way around, they've grown more ok with progressives and we're losing support.
Call me ignorant on the subject, but I was under the impression that modern progresses are form the doctrine of the Frankfurt school of thought.
I was talking about the very idea of progressiveism earlier.
That is correct.
Cultural Marxism came from the Frankfurt School.
@Winston Modern Progressivism came from the Frankfurt school yes, but Progressivism as itself started in American in Wisconsin right before the American Imperialism Era.
Sad the Frankfurt School's conclusion was so effective.
They sure were successful.
@Nuke do you agree with zak's assertion that progress has "never been reversed" in history
@Deleted User Not in history
Just in the last 80 years
No.
I don't believe in Whig history.
@Nuke The Whigs were way before 1900s, and also didn't last near as long as the democratic party
Try again honey
@zakattack04 Imagine being retarded to not know what "Whig history" is and not know what a Whig is.
oh I thought you were talking about the Whig Party which formed in response to Andrew Jackson.
Wait LOL
Just because you don't believe it doesn't mean it's not true bud
xD I'm still right.
When since the 1900s has progression been reversed
Go head.
Excluding gun rights.
The fall of the Soviet Union
@Nuke I was talking in the United States.
If anything that proves my point
Because even after Socialism's failure it only becomes more popular.
even after massive starvation and collapse of powerful countries
People still progress towards it
Zak 2
Planned Parenthood v. Casey
Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act
The prohibitions of third trimester abortion and implementations of trigger laws in many states
I feel like this is using very minor specifics to disprove a solid broad theory.
because the fact is the US still has more abortions than most european countries
And more freedom to do so.
"Progress" itself was basically stopped in 1980.
They couldn't even pass a 20 week abortion.
oh please lol
Really?
Gay rights?
Transgenders
you said that there is never a victory against it
Military having different standards.
@FLanon you won a tactical victory, they have strategic control.
That's just Obama shit. "Progress" was suspended and rolled back between 1980 and 2008.
That's a fact.
Nah.
Immigration wasn't fixed.
not on homosexuals
More the economy was increasingly regualted.
And the state power grew.
Patriot Act
Progressives were victorious again.
>It's impossibru to undo progress
>meanwhile in Russia
Rehabilitative justice is becoming more popular,
Russia is a shit hole.
Russia has half the economy of the United fucking Kingdom.
if that is your example we're screwed.
Not to mention they didn't have near as much racial diversity as we do.
Russian economy is literally just oil
All exports
Oil and natural gas.
I'm still right Nuke.
Hi still right Nuke., I'm Dad!
:I
the discussion is still society
not simply quality of country
Actually, Russia has a larger economy than the UK.
Look at their GDP's
Russian society is hardly that good either
societal progress and that kind of thing
There are huge social problems in Russia
The UK produces much more goods and services
well in how they relate to progressivism
Not to mention phony elections @Deleted User
Russia is never going to be a democracy
Who cares?
Shut up shill
Phony elections too?
Russian elections are obviously fake
We don't need to sprinkle democracy in every corner of the planet
@FLanon it matters because Nuke tried to use it as evidence of progressives being reversed.
1. Democracy is bullshit.
2. Russian elections are free, fair, and legitimate.
Yes, and it was
@Deleted User Prove it.
Most Russians probably do support Putin, but they just give Putin more votes anyway to make him look better
@Nuke You dunce that's per capita
Or PPP maybe
Like that time he modified the electoral system to make himself have less votes on purpose?
Look at the real numbers of offical exchange rates
Even Stalin has a huge following still
UK has like twice the economic power of Russia
>per capita
Russia is the green line
>in billions
Lots of people in the UK aren't well off at all
Are you an idiot?
LOL even France!
We're talking progressivism not the evonomy
Progressive win on everything.
It's a different axiom
Even their economic policies
>cite a loaded estimate using an alternative measuring system published by the CIA
>SEE GOOGLE SAID SO
The World bank?
you moron
Sources: World Bank
but you want to use glowing niggers as your source
<:smugpepe:422445820034416648>
Isn't it just obvious that Russia has a much lower gdp per capita than UK?
Zak 4 - Nuke 0
Progressives have never been stopped.
who honestly cares if it does
Since FDR
You can't beat them.
He gained the system like a genius.
>Zak, the Doug Jones supporter, claims to be right
stop shifting the goalposts
I hate DOug Jones.
Endorse Roy Moore faggot.
I didn't
I wanted Luther Strange.
I supported Roy Moores policies
You already said Doug Jones was better way back
If Trump said Strange I went rhrough strange
NEVER
Never said that
"But it's got a lower number!"
"But it's not a real democracy!"
But his candidacy was a car crash at best
Yes, when the Omnibus was passed.
Nope
I was making fun of someone who said that
>But this other statistic using a different formula shows that it's lower!
So nuje
you have failed to proved evidence to disprove my theory.
I am right, and we can't win.
then quit
Correct.
yay
I mean that's your choice
It's not my choice.
it's right.
It is your choice
Do you have evidence proving it wrong>?
Leave or stay.
That the Progressives have never been stopped.
If you don't care to change anything, you have no reason to stay
You even need to use loaded statistics that don't factor the value of currency into their calculations.
Oh I'm not going to give up, I just want to make sure we're on the same page here.
Well obviously society is going to change
That's just a given
That we're in a losing battle.
If you believe it's impossible and simply don't bother, then don't even bother being here.
There are forces more powerful than we can imagine fighting us.
because I'd be a hypocrit.
If I gave up.
If you don't want to face them, go.
Zak's stat reminded me of that time that the Eurasian Economic Union had a lower combined GDP than Russia but Russia was a member
and the CIA was the source
There ya go Nuke.
Wrong again
;)
PPP is idiotic
And for you to really get a biased source
use offical exchange rates
>official exchange rates
PPP has more relevence to the people of that country
Yeah but IRL.
The true value.
you use offical exchange rates.
official exchange rates aren't always right
PPP is jsut like "oh your currency is really inflated here ya go"
better than PPP
Ever heard of currency manipulation?
I'm still right.
Hi still right., I'm Dad!
The offical exchange rates prove me so.
PPP is bullshit.
>people trade currency illegally on the black market because official exchange rates are bullshit
>Zak still uses nominal
No body uses PPP when you go to buy soemthing across country lines
It's going to all be official exchange rates
IE: how much your money is ACTUALLY worth.
Most people don't buy their shopping in foreign countries
I certainly don't anyway
Ok Nuke
5 - 0
progressives always win
No one even uses measurements of GDP when they go shopping abroad.
Since 1940, I'm still waiti9ng.
Countries do
To determine the power of your economy,.
This article includes a list of countries by their forecasted estimated gross domestic product based on purchasing power parity, abbreviated GDP (PPP).[2] Countries are sorted by GDP PPP forecast estimates from financial and statistical institutions in the limited period JanuaryโApril 2017, which are calculated at market or government official exchange rates. The data given on this page are based on the international dollar, a standardized unit used by economists.
>which are calculated at market or government official exchange rates
why bother being here if all you do is call this an impossibility
What was this arguement even about?
I didn't catch that
Nominal GDP does not take into account differences in the cost of living in different countries, and the results can vary greatly from one year to another based on fluctuations in the exchange rates of the country's currency.
Nominal GDP .... results can vary greatly from one year to another based on fluctuations in the exchange rates of the country's currency.
If you used PPP that would mean China would out spend the Untied states.
Which they can't
Nominal GDP is the baseline official way to measure GDP
Protip: Just because you have a massive internal market doesn't mean your economy isn't export-dependent.
Still proves me right.
No, it doesn't.
PPP says China produces more goods and services per year than the United States.
Which is flat out idiotic.
Nominal is the way to go.
You're just scared of the truth, you know I'm right.
We've never stopped the Progressives ever.
And we're weaker now than ever before, and the Democrats are stronger.
Yes, China produces more goods and services. Why do you think they export and we import?
They produce more goods.
Not Services
And?
Their currency is extremely inflated.
Which is why they have a higher PPP
upon other reasons of course.
the US still has the largest economy in the world.
China has lower taxes than the USA too.
China basically has free markets now.
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