What are we pushing back against?

So how long do you give before this is screengrabbed on twitter?

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Am I allowed to say "trilkop" on the server?

I suspect a lot of SJW's would join your link from twitter just to report back on the evilness

I give it a month 😉

Perhaps it should be invite only, then.

fukkem. So what if they screen grab stuff and villify people, it would just be more of the same.

I thought that was the experiment

Personally I don't mind SJW's trolling servers like these, they make it exciting

For the record, I don't think invite only is the way to go, probably just end up with an echo chamber

^^^ prezactly

Over time, admin roles will be assigned to those who can be trusted the most. @AcidOverride is the kingpin here.

Please use the link from Twitter and feel free to invite more people.

well can we get right to chatting or is there already a topic planned ?

The topic is the decriminilization of cannabis in Z

ZA

Chat about whatever you want. The tagline of this room gives some theme ideas. It's all yours.

I'll begin with something.

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) dont let Helen hear you say that 😄

Is Helen anti decrminilization? If that is the case I am anti Helen!

I would like opinions on whether SA has a center (seems we have far left and far right), who would you say represents the center either as a party or public figure

@Jerm I hae always felt that IRR has an agenda (one that works in wipet-pooh's favour), but they do seem biased.

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) well i wouldn't say anti but @Rendier had mos a debate/live chat with her and the last topic was that and she was against it...because she is right in a way that weed kills motivation.....but my argument is parkie gras kills motivation and not indoor/greenhouse

@Robzombie I stopped folowing his stuff, it is all just ainstream rhetoric.

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) i feel you...same as Willem PLezter....it is starting to feel like they are just doing these live streams to get publicity

@Robzombie You made me queue this tune 🤘 https://youtu.be/7SSDZHZHYvM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

https://discord.gg/3Dec43t

@Jerm they definitely have influence, the question is whether it is unhealthy. There seem to be a handful of organisations publishing fact based "thought leadership" pieces. One would imagine it is wise to let these pieces influence policy or not.

Maybe political parties don't do a good enough job of publishing the thinking that goes into their policy making... too much time selling the policy

*scratch the or not*

I think the IRR is a very important organisation, only wanting the best. They focus on data primarily.

can we really trust IRR? hell can we really trust anything that is politically connected in SA?

@Robzombie I trust no-one, but at least they present facts that can be checked

I like them, but they definitely have a bias

@Robzombie yes you can trust them. I trust them. I know them personally too.

IRR is not political. They're completely independent.

I have come to learn that we cannot trust AgriSA or Die Broederbond, I am weary of everyone these days.

@Tom_Servo I am with you, i don't trust any Org in SA anymore, as they all lack transparency....but i can say one thing though, i bought Frans Cronje's second book, and it is quite amazing and actually gives a nice perspective of whats going on in the country and funny enough, its not biased at all

time travellers guide ?

@Tom_Servo yeah that one

I think the IRR are transparent though

@AcidOverride Will you enable attachments (jpeg's) in messages please.

just have an agenda it seems

I don't think Shelley Garland helped with that perception (although I loved it)

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) why not trust AgriSA and BB?

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) Done

AgriSA is pushing HARD for expropriation without compensation, their land audit is also super biased in favour of the left.

have some of you seen the conspiracies behind BB since inception?

Yea, some people see the BB as ZA's illuminati

Thanks @AcidOverride

so its all good and well that we are all talking about these issues and creating awareness i guess, but what are we going to do about it...talk is cheap in my world

@AcidOverride i wish everybody would do that, and farmers not to plant in the next two months until we have an official statement from the ANC on what their plans are...yeah they are going to amend the constitution....but to what??? why all this secrecy around this issue? what is the actual agenda? I am willing to take a bet some of these 139 farms (if there are any) will have raw minerals

IRR are currently overhauling their funder base. They've been pushing for it in recent weeks. They're moving away from corporate funding, towards independent funding like AfriForum. You should join the IRR. It's dirt cheap and they are very important.

note the last three words

But before you join the IRR, become a Jerm patron. It's about 50 bucks and I already have 35 patrons, and they're helping me draw cartoons that no editor or cartoonists wants to go near. I'm going to be touching on race and IQ; identity politics; leftism; etc. Then you can join the Patreon channel too (closed to the public). 😋

@Jerm have you been deplatformed completely or just have a lot of cartoons declined?

haha IQ? yoh...you really do want to piss them of 😄

@Robzombie https://twitter.com/Klipkop12/status/1027169513417179136

context was added later - that was a quote from one of the people at the land hearings

not ANC position

ohhhh WOW!!! ANC like to play games huh...thanks for that!

@Tom_Servo I'm not deplatformed. I have a lot of work, thankfully. (I'm the busiest I've ever been.) But there is still a bunch of satire that can only be published with the help of patrons. And I'm trying really hard to get satire back to its roots.

yeah, I think the race IQ thing would be a quick way to get deplatformed :-p

@Jerm Would you say there is a "class action" against cartoonists like yourself?

Here's my first race-IQ cartoon I've done, funded by patrons and collaborated with the patron alongside my signature.

@AK -47

@Jerm absolutely brilliant!

Did you see this one Yesterday?

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) No, I don't think so. But I do think radical leftism is fashionable and its adherents tend to be very vocal.

This cartoon was also funded by patrons, and rejected from every publication. Still went viral on social media though.

@Jerm ^^^ I really enjoyed that one.

You can add it to your "Best of Jerm" book one day when you retire.

@AK EFF wants to do away with favouritism by favouring women.

Friends, please invite others and help grow this group. The link is pinned to the top.

Welcome @Scribbly_G

Scribbly is, in my opinion, one of the funniest cartoonists in SA. You must follow his work.

👋👋👋

It seems that we are not allowed to celebrate women of a certian demographic...

Is this chat supposed to wipe or is it something to do with my settings?

@Scribbly_G love your twitter cover!

@AK Wipe? As in, it gets cleared? Are you on web or app?