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Why do you think they are down in the Rust Belt? No action on NAFTA or maybe Immigration?
Healthcare and immigration I'd wager.
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https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/automotive-wages-in-nafta-talks/
Can the Auto Jobs actually come back?
Main reason? No real change (culturally, economically)
Yeah
And they aren't wrong honestly
@๐Boo-ton๐ do we have data on what WWC Voters see as the most important issues in the Rust Belt?
Obama got slaughtered in the Midwest in 2010 and 2014 because things didn't change
So Mexico says NAFTA deal could come in days, if NAFTA is renegotiated, do you think that will have an impact?
Well around half of White Working-class Americans view a White-minority America as largely negative
Maybe Trump could work on that little issue
What do Rust Belt voters care about the most
Oh I'm not sure
I imagine it's cultural anxiety/displacement, status threat, demographic shift, deaths of despair (opioid crisis), immigration, outsourcing, deindustrialization, healthcare costs
not sure the order
Sample size too small
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXeKSU0nLkw
the only youtube english translation of the original lyrics of Giovinezza, anthem of the National Fascist Party
TENNESSEE PRIMARIES TODAY
"In a Shincho 45 magazine article, Mio Sugita, a member of the Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) of Japan called LGBT people โunproductiveโ because, according to Sugita, LGBT people โcan not bear children.โSugita also questioned whether โ the use of tax money for LGBT couples could gain public support."
Is this San Francisco, or Los Angeles?
I canโt really tell because they all now look the same
it clearly says Portland
Yeah I was making a joke
All these west coast cities are dirty and filled with trash
Also this was the city where the council of it allowed Furries to fuck and take shits in parks
@Nuke why u trolling as Tanya the evil? :p
I heartily agree that public schools are made better through competition with private schools, hence the charter and voucher system works in balance with the public school system. No one of these should be given 100% of the power or funding.
That is one example of why hybrid economies are Vundervolk
Are schools getting better lunches or are they still shit?
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The buffet/cafeteria style is generally the best system for school lunches, as opposed to pre-organized trays, at least for kids 12 and older
But only if u have more than one selection at the buffet
But I mean
My son can bring his lunch to school in a military briefcase the shape of a sniper rifle for all I care
Schools for important peoples children should value education over food
@Tasunke_Witka I don't know?
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He really is awesome.
Would be nice if America could head that direction after Trump. Don't know who would do it though.
Lmfao
Stop
@Jjnnii The DEA would have the authority to destroy anything from drug dealers.
Yeah but we quietly sell it off at auction.
https://twitter.com/retrotwit/status/1025143043588993024?s=19
vote in this poll
DUS HE KNOW DAT HE IS A DEMOCRAT
guys I am a democrat
I like Polk and Jackson
Wasn't Polk a Whig?
my favourite american president is adolf hitler
andrew johnson is my favorite democrat
Hamilton
@Apocalypticaly attending his rally?
I have tickets
Are you bringing a weapon?
No
Inshallah
AHAHAHAHAHA
Seriously, Portugal?
@GermanEastAfrica They have easy immigration laws. Basically you can own a house and that can count as an investment into Portugal.
I see
Thatโs fucking great though
I guess I can give her props on actually moving when blumpf wins
we are fucking killing it in this trade war
the chinese are getting clobbered
theyre begging for relief
and the real tariffs don't kick in until the end of the month
lol
hopefully it doesnt come to that
China Plans Tariffs on $60 Billion of Imports to Counter Trump https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-03/china-plans-tariffs-on-60-billion-of-imports-to-counter-trump
We need to clobber China until it reenters the Three Kingdoms era.
Although, of course
The Sixteen Kingdoms, the Warring States era, the Southern and Northern Dynasties...
All good examples of what China should be.
Also, it would be great if Taiwan got to conquer China!
maga
shithole country
Sad!
Morning
Morning
How is everyone?
Good!
hello
I wonder how they feel now
Westmoreland went for Saccone.
this is from Jan 2018
said Trump is doing nothing on Trade and Steal
but lately he has and I would like to see what they think now
AFL-CIO President is open to endorsing Trump in 2020.
The working-class/union voting block is the last pillar the GOP needs to garner a supermajority of the white voter nationwide.
That is good
Although, most AFL-CIO chapters are democrat
But yes this is big
There's obviously many individual members who vote Republican on their own, but official union support would only help.
Yep
We have to continue to win over the WWC in the Rust Belt
@GavinTheViking how is your video coming along?
@ThatRightWingFish Haven't had time at all to work on it between work/door knocking. I've put it on hold until idk when, since school is starting up.
Ah
NAFTA Deal will be huge
If we can get it done before the midterms, we are in good shape
Problem though is that I feel like the Rs running in the Rust Belt are not very good
The White working class/White union vote is the next frontier for the GOP. Swing states gradually change over time, with states like Iowa and Indiana turning more Safe GOP and New Mexico and Viriginia turning Safe Dem while states like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania move rightward to become more swingy.
I don't know much about those races to say either way.
All I know is Trump endorsed a black guy for Michigan Senate race
Sad!
Absolutely, we won a good amount of the WWC but we still have work to do
I wonder how Ohio was always a swing state
Comparing Trump to Romney's share of the vote from specific groups, Trump gained:
14 points with Whites w/ No College Degree
16 points with Under $30K
6 Points with $30K-$49K
10 Points with Union Households
Ohio: Somewhat strong Union presence + 12% Black population with high voter turnout + a few big cities which spawns liberals = swing state
Why did we allow the 14th and 15th Amendments?
Cause half the country couldn't vote then (the South, not blacks lmao)
Trump WWC Vote in the Rust Belt
Pennsylvania 60.2%
Ohio 63.2%
Michigan 60.2%
Wisconsin 56.4%
Iowa 58.4%
Most of the black population is stuck in my cities
@ThatRightWingFish Source?
My Graph
Cleveland and Cincinnati are well known for being horrible cities (not so much Cleveland these days but it has its ghetto areas)
Does WWC = White w/ No College Degree?
yeah
Idk if those two groups flow perfectly together, but it's still a pretty good indicator.
White Non College Educated Voters make up the White Working Class, the White Non College Educated Population in the Rust Belt is huge
Even with the Steel Tariffs, NAFTA deal soon and Tariffs on Chinese goods, Trump still has a negative approval rating with Whites in the Rust Belt
White College Educated Voters are a Huge Threat
The have been trending left
Yeah idk how I feel about approval ratings, because people may disagree with his Tweets, but like his economic policies, which the latter would matter more in a presidential election, and the former outside of election season.
I bet you a 100 dollars, if Trump only tweeted about important things, he would have a better approval rating
I have never liked the idea of a Twitter President
He just says to much stupid shit that takes up TV time instead of talking about NAFTA
Also, the Trump admin is really focusing on Auto in the NAFTA talks, which is great.
raising auto wages in Mexico could actually bring back jobs to America because the main reason most companies go to Mexico is due to lower wages.
That's a corny ass name for a car website. "The Drive" lmao
lol
well
I like the "Protectionist Threats for Free Trade Results" approach.
Yep
Simple yet so many people missed it when looking at the tariffs at face value.
Tariffs have a short term "hurting" effect but in the long term, it makes Trade more fair
Glad to see Trump is focusing on Trade so much but I wish he had a little more attention on Immigration
I haven't done extensive research on tariffs but I want to like them but have heard bad shit about them from not-retards
Tariffs are a good weapon to bring nations to the talking table
Trump has some good Trade people on his team
For sure
I also love dabbing on the Unions with Right-to-Work laws tho
So is this a good thing?
Will this win us voters in the Rust Belt
Right-to-Work? Nah it's a "anti-union" law that is up for referendum in Missouri on our primary date this Tuesday
I put "anti-union" in quotes because that's how the unions and Democrats are spinning it.
Tariffs are a necessary and primary tool of national defense, in a globalized economy
globalization does not conceive "competing markets", or at least not in practice
in theory it does
but globalized markets with no limits usually mean that sooner or later, someone will take over and become an hegemony
that's why tariffs are necessary
to protect the national working classes, national products, and interests too
otherwise, in a globalized filthy turbocapitalist economy, companies will close their facilities in "first world countries" to exploit cheaper semi-enslaved labor force in third world countries or emerging economies
this will result in higher unenployment, lower internal demand - erosion of workers rights, aswell as a drop in the average salaries, due to the fact that workers will be basically forced to compete with third-world slaves, who for obvious reasons work for a lower pay
the masterpiece of the globalist hyenas, the zionist financial elites who control our stock markets and economies
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@GavinTheViking So the Right to Work has zero effect
I like this bot, it's helpful
^
@ThatRightWingFish Not it has an effect, but not a major one in my opinion. I'll type up a quick explainer to right-to-work.
Okay
How close is the Missouri Senate Race looking?
This guy on Youtube called "Let's talk elections" seems to do a pretty good job breaking things down
Although, they have Bob Corker's seat flipping blue
Videos are so much better than reading
Right To Work:
Nationwide, you can't be forced to be in a private sector union, which means you aren't forced to pay union dues (money required for bargaining wages + political funds). In Non Right-to-Work (RTW) states, non-union members at a union workplace don't have to pay union dues, but still have to pay what's called an "agency fee", which is basically the money required for bargaining wages, and is somewhere between 70% and 85% of the normal amount union dues would be.
RTW makes it to where non-union members won't have to pay this agency fee. The unions have responded, saying that these employees will still be represented by the union when it comes to settling grievances for management and bargaining for their wage. They calls these workers who don't pay because of RTW laws as "free riders".
However, the problem of free riders is one made by the unions themselves. Almost always, unions negotiate with the employers to have "exclusive bargaining representation". This means the union represents all members and non-members, and is the only union that can operate in the workplace. Unions use this monopoly of negotiation powers as an argument of why individual workers should still be forced to be represented by them, when those workers could represent themselves, like all non-union workers do in non-union workplaces, which is 91% of Missouri's workers.
Yes, The spoken word is just as powerful as the written word
Sucks we don't have the strongest candidates in the Rust Belt.
Those states may not be ready for Republican Senators yet, but just ready enough for voting for a Republican for president.
Like how Colorado has a Republican Senator, but is pretty Safe Democrat when it comes to the president.
Source on Right to Work
@jpc1976 "Let's Talk Elections" is some 13 year old kid who does an absolutely awful job, I'm not sure why people actually give him any praise
@GavinTheViking but we can win the rust belt, we just don't have the people I guess
Once the conservative Democrats are overtaken by the Progressives with party leadership in the Rust Belt, then conservative Dems will start to flip/continue to flip to Republican
Look at state legislatures in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.
Look at the guy running in Paul Ryan's District
An Iron Worker endorsed by Bernie
Michigan: Senate 27-10 (R), House 63-46 (R) [Flipped majority R in 2011]
Republican?
Nope Democrat
Paul Ryan's District goes 60%-30% for Republican so its seems pretty safe
The Conservative running is
Eh
Doesn't even have Immigration as an issue on his website
Did Paul Ryan?
Not sure
It may not be a district that needs a strong immigration stance.
Paul Ryan was pretty cucky on immigration
Minnesota:
Senate 33-33 (1 Vacancy) [D control until 2011, R control 2011-2012, D control/swingy ever since 2012]
House 77-56 (R) [D from 1992-1998, R from 1999-2006, D from 2007-2010, swing since 2010]
His ad just talked about Wisconsin Values
But the guy running for Senate in Wisconsin doesn't seem to bad
I may look up the four Rust Belt races later on today, get a good overview of them
Yep
Michigan is probably a lost cause
Wisconsin, Ohio and Pennsylvania I have a good feeling about eventhough PA seems kinda weak
Nah
Come on
A Black guy winning in a White State?
MI is probably one of our most likely pickups over there imo
Sandy and James are pretty weak in my opinion
The thing about whites is they have less baggage about voting for a blackie than the other way around
But what makes him a strong candidate?
Military record
Supports the wall
Pretty young
Wisconsin:
Senate 18-15 (R) [R from 2003-2006, D from 2007-2010, R from 2011-2013)
House 64-35 (R) [R from 1995-2008, D from 2009-2010, back to R in 2011)
I hate when candidates flex about their military background
You a commie or something?
No I just don't like it
It's just good optics.
What makes you special to go and preach about it
It may annoy you but it has a very strong impression on most people
Eh
In the US, lots of people care about vets, that's the thing
Pennsylvania:
Senate 33-16 (R) [R since 1994]
House 121-82 (R) [R since 2011]
People will probably care more about him supporting Trump than his Military background
"You serve the country on the battlefield, then you serve in politics"
That kind of deal
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