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2018-08-02 06:18:14 UTC

Why do you think they are down in the Rust Belt? No action on NAFTA or maybe Immigration?

2018-08-02 06:20:44 UTC

Healthcare and immigration I'd wager.

2018-08-02 06:20:45 UTC

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2018-08-02 06:20:45 UTC
2018-08-02 06:21:55 UTC

Main reason? No real change (culturally, economically)

2018-08-02 06:22:02 UTC

Yeah

2018-08-02 06:22:16 UTC

And they aren't wrong honestly

2018-08-02 06:22:55 UTC

@๐ŸŽƒBoo-ton๐ŸŽƒ do we have data on what WWC Voters see as the most important issues in the Rust Belt?

2018-08-02 06:23:03 UTC

Obama got slaughtered in the Midwest in 2010 and 2014 because things didn't change

2018-08-02 06:24:01 UTC

So Mexico says NAFTA deal could come in days, if NAFTA is renegotiated, do you think that will have an impact?

2018-08-02 06:29:46 UTC

Well around half of White Working-class Americans view a White-minority America as largely negative

2018-08-02 06:30:06 UTC

Maybe Trump could work on that little issue

2018-08-02 06:31:43 UTC

What do Rust Belt voters care about the most

2018-08-02 06:34:59 UTC

Oh I'm not sure

2018-08-02 06:38:31 UTC

I imagine it's cultural anxiety/displacement, status threat, demographic shift, deaths of despair (opioid crisis), immigration, outsourcing, deindustrialization, healthcare costs

2018-08-02 06:38:35 UTC

not sure the order

2018-08-02 06:45:01 UTC

Sample size too small

2018-08-02 09:46:53 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXeKSU0nLkw
the only youtube english translation of the original lyrics of Giovinezza, anthem of the National Fascist Party

2018-08-02 12:39:57 UTC

TENNESSEE PRIMARIES TODAY

2018-08-02 15:03:16 UTC

"In a Shincho 45 magazine article, Mio Sugita, a member of the Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) of Japan called LGBT people โ€œunproductiveโ€ because, according to Sugita, LGBT people โ€œcan not bear children.โ€Sugita also questioned whether โ€œ the use of tax money for LGBT couples could gain public support."

2018-08-02 15:30:59 UTC

Is this San Francisco, or Los Angeles?

2018-08-02 15:31:08 UTC

I canโ€™t really tell because they all now look the same

2018-08-02 15:38:49 UTC

it clearly says Portland

2018-08-02 15:41:05 UTC

Yeah I was making a joke

2018-08-02 15:41:17 UTC

All these west coast cities are dirty and filled with trash

2018-08-02 15:41:40 UTC

Also this was the city where the council of it allowed Furries to fuck and take shits in parks

2018-08-02 16:32:04 UTC

@Nuke why u trolling as Tanya the evil? :p

2018-08-02 16:33:03 UTC

I heartily agree that public schools are made better through competition with private schools, hence the charter and voucher system works in balance with the public school system. No one of these should be given 100% of the power or funding.

2018-08-02 16:33:21 UTC

That is one example of why hybrid economies are Vundervolk

2018-08-02 16:33:28 UTC

Are schools getting better lunches or are they still shit?

2018-08-02 16:33:36 UTC

ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

2018-08-02 16:34:29 UTC

The buffet/cafeteria style is generally the best system for school lunches, as opposed to pre-organized trays, at least for kids 12 and older

2018-08-02 16:34:47 UTC

But only if u have more than one selection at the buffet

2018-08-02 16:35:02 UTC

But I mean

2018-08-02 16:35:29 UTC

My son can bring his lunch to school in a military briefcase the shape of a sniper rifle for all I care

2018-08-02 16:35:47 UTC

Schools for important peoples children should value education over food

2018-08-02 16:57:11 UTC

@Tasunke_Witka I don't know?

2018-08-02 20:12:25 UTC

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2018-08-02 21:04:38 UTC

Based

2018-08-02 21:20:48 UTC

He really is awesome.

2018-08-02 21:21:06 UTC

Would be nice if America could head that direction after Trump. Don't know who would do it though.

2018-08-02 21:21:32 UTC

Lmfao

2018-08-02 21:21:33 UTC

Stop

2018-08-02 22:05:28 UTC

@Jjnnii The DEA would have the authority to destroy anything from drug dealers.

2018-08-02 22:33:03 UTC

Yeah but we quietly sell it off at auction.

2018-08-03 02:50:01 UTC

DUS HE KNOW DAT HE IS A DEMOCRAT

2018-08-03 03:19:23 UTC

guys I am a democrat

2018-08-03 03:19:28 UTC

I like Polk and Jackson

2018-08-03 03:21:13 UTC

Wasn't Polk a Whig?

2018-08-03 03:22:35 UTC

my favourite american president is adolf hitler

2018-08-03 03:32:46 UTC

andrew johnson is my favorite democrat

2018-08-03 03:57:01 UTC

Hamilton

2018-08-03 11:34:30 UTC

@Apocalypticaly attending his rally?

2018-08-03 11:35:00 UTC

I have tickets

2018-08-03 11:35:16 UTC

Are you bringing a weapon?

2018-08-03 11:35:22 UTC

No

2018-08-03 11:35:33 UTC

Inshallah

2018-08-03 13:10:36 UTC

AHAHAHAHAHA

2018-08-03 13:10:51 UTC

Seriously, Portugal?

2018-08-03 13:14:47 UTC

@GermanEastAfrica They have easy immigration laws. Basically you can own a house and that can count as an investment into Portugal.

2018-08-03 13:17:58 UTC

I see

2018-08-03 13:18:09 UTC

Thatโ€™s fucking great though

2018-08-03 13:18:27 UTC

I guess I can give her props on actually moving when blumpf wins

2018-08-03 14:18:17 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/474944099284156436/Screenshot_20180803-091044_Chrome.png

2018-08-03 14:18:25 UTC

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2018-08-03 14:18:41 UTC

we are fucking killing it in this trade war

2018-08-03 14:18:47 UTC

the chinese are getting clobbered

2018-08-03 14:18:56 UTC

theyre begging for relief

2018-08-03 14:20:17 UTC

and the real tariffs don't kick in until the end of the month

2018-08-03 14:21:35 UTC

lol

2018-08-03 14:21:44 UTC

hopefully it doesnt come to that

2018-08-03 14:37:58 UTC

We need to clobber China until it reenters the Three Kingdoms era.

2018-08-03 14:38:22 UTC

Although, of course

2018-08-03 14:38:41 UTC

The Sixteen Kingdoms, the Warring States era, the Southern and Northern Dynasties...

2018-08-03 14:38:51 UTC

All good examples of what China should be.

2018-08-03 14:39:01 UTC

Also, it would be great if Taiwan got to conquer China!

2018-08-03 14:42:44 UTC

maga

2018-08-03 14:50:46 UTC

shithole country

2018-08-03 14:54:12 UTC

Sad!

2018-08-03 15:06:24 UTC

Morning

2018-08-03 15:18:23 UTC

Morning

2018-08-03 15:18:40 UTC

How is everyone?

2018-08-03 15:19:09 UTC

Good!

2018-08-03 15:48:40 UTC

hello

2018-08-03 16:01:01 UTC

I wonder how they feel now

2018-08-03 17:14:57 UTC

Westmoreland went for Saccone.

2018-08-03 17:15:08 UTC

this is from Jan 2018

2018-08-03 17:15:21 UTC

said Trump is doing nothing on Trade and Steal

2018-08-03 17:15:36 UTC

but lately he has and I would like to see what they think now

2018-08-03 17:52:18 UTC

AFL-CIO President is open to endorsing Trump in 2020.

2018-08-03 17:53:18 UTC

The working-class/union voting block is the last pillar the GOP needs to garner a supermajority of the white voter nationwide.

2018-08-03 18:03:05 UTC

That is good

2018-08-03 18:03:21 UTC

Although, most AFL-CIO chapters are democrat

2018-08-03 18:03:38 UTC

But yes this is big

2018-08-03 18:05:35 UTC

There's obviously many individual members who vote Republican on their own, but official union support would only help.

2018-08-03 18:11:17 UTC

Yep

2018-08-03 18:11:35 UTC

We have to continue to win over the WWC in the Rust Belt

2018-08-03 18:12:15 UTC

@GavinTheViking how is your video coming along?

2018-08-03 18:13:14 UTC

@ThatRightWingFish Haven't had time at all to work on it between work/door knocking. I've put it on hold until idk when, since school is starting up.

2018-08-03 18:13:45 UTC

Ah

2018-08-03 18:15:24 UTC

NAFTA Deal will be huge

2018-08-03 18:15:43 UTC

If we can get it done before the midterms, we are in good shape

2018-08-03 18:16:13 UTC

Problem though is that I feel like the Rs running in the Rust Belt are not very good

2018-08-03 18:16:41 UTC

The White working class/White union vote is the next frontier for the GOP. Swing states gradually change over time, with states like Iowa and Indiana turning more Safe GOP and New Mexico and Viriginia turning Safe Dem while states like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania move rightward to become more swingy.

2018-08-03 18:16:54 UTC

I don't know much about those races to say either way.

2018-08-03 18:17:08 UTC

All I know is Trump endorsed a black guy for Michigan Senate race

2018-08-03 18:17:16 UTC

Sad!

2018-08-03 18:17:34 UTC

Absolutely, we won a good amount of the WWC but we still have work to do

2018-08-03 18:22:45 UTC

I wonder how Ohio was always a swing state

2018-08-03 18:24:00 UTC

Comparing Trump to Romney's share of the vote from specific groups, Trump gained:
14 points with Whites w/ No College Degree
16 points with Under $30K
6 Points with $30K-$49K
10 Points with Union Households

2018-08-03 18:25:43 UTC

Ohio: Somewhat strong Union presence + 12% Black population with high voter turnout + a few big cities which spawns liberals = swing state

2018-08-03 18:26:50 UTC

Why did we allow the 14th and 15th Amendments?

2018-08-03 18:27:20 UTC

Cause half the country couldn't vote then (the South, not blacks lmao)

2018-08-03 18:27:21 UTC

Trump WWC Vote in the Rust Belt
Pennsylvania 60.2%
Ohio 63.2%
Michigan 60.2%
Wisconsin 56.4%
Iowa 58.4%

2018-08-03 18:27:28 UTC

Most of the black population is stuck in my cities

2018-08-03 18:27:35 UTC
2018-08-03 18:27:55 UTC

My Graph

2018-08-03 18:27:58 UTC

Cleveland and Cincinnati are well known for being horrible cities (not so much Cleveland these days but it has its ghetto areas)

2018-08-03 18:28:08 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/475006978499018752/trump_voteshare_white_voters_by_education.png

2018-08-03 18:28:26 UTC

Does WWC = White w/ No College Degree?

2018-08-03 18:28:36 UTC

yeah

2018-08-03 18:29:26 UTC

Idk if those two groups flow perfectly together, but it's still a pretty good indicator.

2018-08-03 18:30:31 UTC

White Non College Educated Voters make up the White Working Class, the White Non College Educated Population in the Rust Belt is huge

2018-08-03 18:31:34 UTC

Even with the Steel Tariffs, NAFTA deal soon and Tariffs on Chinese goods, Trump still has a negative approval rating with Whites in the Rust Belt

2018-08-03 18:32:02 UTC

White College Educated Voters are a Huge Threat

2018-08-03 18:32:15 UTC

The have been trending left

2018-08-03 18:33:17 UTC

Yeah idk how I feel about approval ratings, because people may disagree with his Tweets, but like his economic policies, which the latter would matter more in a presidential election, and the former outside of election season.

2018-08-03 18:33:53 UTC

I bet you a 100 dollars, if Trump only tweeted about important things, he would have a better approval rating

2018-08-03 18:34:05 UTC

I have never liked the idea of a Twitter President

2018-08-03 18:34:35 UTC

He just says to much stupid shit that takes up TV time instead of talking about NAFTA

2018-08-03 18:36:09 UTC

Also, the Trump admin is really focusing on Auto in the NAFTA talks, which is great.

2018-08-03 18:37:29 UTC

raising auto wages in Mexico could actually bring back jobs to America because the main reason most companies go to Mexico is due to lower wages.

2018-08-03 18:37:39 UTC

That's a corny ass name for a car website. "The Drive" lmao

2018-08-03 18:37:45 UTC

lol

2018-08-03 18:37:48 UTC

well

2018-08-03 18:39:36 UTC

I like the "Protectionist Threats for Free Trade Results" approach.

2018-08-03 18:39:49 UTC

Yep

2018-08-03 18:39:57 UTC

Simple yet so many people missed it when looking at the tariffs at face value.

2018-08-03 18:40:36 UTC

Tariffs have a short term "hurting" effect but in the long term, it makes Trade more fair

2018-08-03 18:41:11 UTC

Glad to see Trump is focusing on Trade so much but I wish he had a little more attention on Immigration

2018-08-03 18:41:33 UTC

I haven't done extensive research on tariffs but I want to like them but have heard bad shit about them from not-retards

2018-08-03 18:42:12 UTC

Tariffs are a good weapon to bring nations to the talking table

2018-08-03 18:42:39 UTC

Trump has some good Trade people on his team

2018-08-03 18:43:23 UTC

For sure

2018-08-03 18:44:08 UTC

I also love dabbing on the Unions with Right-to-Work laws tho

2018-08-03 18:44:29 UTC

So is this a good thing?

2018-08-03 18:44:45 UTC

Will this win us voters in the Rust Belt

2018-08-03 18:46:29 UTC

Right-to-Work? Nah it's a "anti-union" law that is up for referendum in Missouri on our primary date this Tuesday

2018-08-03 18:46:46 UTC

I put "anti-union" in quotes because that's how the unions and Democrats are spinning it.

2018-08-03 18:55:31 UTC

Tariffs are a necessary and primary tool of national defense, in a globalized economy

2018-08-03 18:55:43 UTC

globalization does not conceive "competing markets", or at least not in practice

2018-08-03 18:55:45 UTC

in theory it does

2018-08-03 18:56:04 UTC

but globalized markets with no limits usually mean that sooner or later, someone will take over and become an hegemony

2018-08-03 18:56:08 UTC

that's why tariffs are necessary

2018-08-03 18:56:19 UTC

to protect the national working classes, national products, and interests too

2018-08-03 18:57:15 UTC

otherwise, in a globalized filthy turbocapitalist economy, companies will close their facilities in "first world countries" to exploit cheaper semi-enslaved labor force in third world countries or emerging economies

2018-08-03 18:57:57 UTC

this will result in higher unenployment, lower internal demand - erosion of workers rights, aswell as a drop in the average salaries, due to the fact that workers will be basically forced to compete with third-world slaves, who for obvious reasons work for a lower pay

2018-08-03 18:59:02 UTC

the masterpiece of the globalist hyenas, the zionist financial elites who control our stock markets and economies

2018-08-03 19:12:25 UTC

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RED STORM ALERT
RED STORM ALERT

Tuesday, November 6, 2018 is...

***94 Days Away!***

Be sure to prepare to get every right-leaning acquaintance, friend, and family member out to the polls! This includes any right-leaning Internet friends/acquaintances of voting age who may live in other parts of the USA...

2018-08-03 19:12:43 UTC

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2018-08-03 20:09:44 UTC

@GavinTheViking So the Right to Work has zero effect

2018-08-03 20:23:03 UTC

I like this bot, it's helpful

2018-08-03 20:24:34 UTC

^

2018-08-03 20:26:46 UTC

@ThatRightWingFish Not it has an effect, but not a major one in my opinion. I'll type up a quick explainer to right-to-work.

2018-08-03 20:30:52 UTC

Okay

2018-08-03 20:32:42 UTC

How close is the Missouri Senate Race looking?

2018-08-03 20:35:03 UTC

This guy on Youtube called "Let's talk elections" seems to do a pretty good job breaking things down

2018-08-03 20:35:27 UTC

Although, they have Bob Corker's seat flipping blue

2018-08-03 20:36:27 UTC

Videos are so much better than reading

2018-08-03 20:38:26 UTC

Right To Work:
Nationwide, you can't be forced to be in a private sector union, which means you aren't forced to pay union dues (money required for bargaining wages + political funds). In Non Right-to-Work (RTW) states, non-union members at a union workplace don't have to pay union dues, but still have to pay what's called an "agency fee", which is basically the money required for bargaining wages, and is somewhere between 70% and 85% of the normal amount union dues would be.

RTW makes it to where non-union members won't have to pay this agency fee. The unions have responded, saying that these employees will still be represented by the union when it comes to settling grievances for management and bargaining for their wage. They calls these workers who don't pay because of RTW laws as "free riders".

However, the problem of free riders is one made by the unions themselves. Almost always, unions negotiate with the employers to have "exclusive bargaining representation". This means the union represents all members and non-members, and is the only union that can operate in the workplace. Unions use this monopoly of negotiation powers as an argument of why individual workers should still be forced to be represented by them, when those workers could represent themselves, like all non-union workers do in non-union workplaces, which is 91% of Missouri's workers.

2018-08-03 20:38:28 UTC

Yes, The spoken word is just as powerful as the written word

2018-08-03 20:38:48 UTC
2018-08-03 20:39:01 UTC

Sucks we don't have the strongest candidates in the Rust Belt.

2018-08-03 20:39:03 UTC
2018-08-03 20:39:47 UTC

Those states may not be ready for Republican Senators yet, but just ready enough for voting for a Republican for president.

2018-08-03 20:40:18 UTC

Like how Colorado has a Republican Senator, but is pretty Safe Democrat when it comes to the president.

2018-08-03 20:40:39 UTC

Source on Right to Work

2018-08-03 20:42:13 UTC

@jpc1976 "Let's Talk Elections" is some 13 year old kid who does an absolutely awful job, I'm not sure why people actually give him any praise

2018-08-03 20:43:05 UTC

@GavinTheViking but we can win the rust belt, we just don't have the people I guess

2018-08-03 20:44:22 UTC

Once the conservative Democrats are overtaken by the Progressives with party leadership in the Rust Belt, then conservative Dems will start to flip/continue to flip to Republican

2018-08-03 20:44:53 UTC

Look at state legislatures in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

2018-08-03 20:45:55 UTC

Look at the guy running in Paul Ryan's District

2018-08-03 20:46:04 UTC

An Iron Worker endorsed by Bernie

2018-08-03 20:46:11 UTC

Michigan: Senate 27-10 (R), House 63-46 (R) [Flipped majority R in 2011]

2018-08-03 20:46:20 UTC

Republican?

2018-08-03 20:46:39 UTC

Nope Democrat

2018-08-03 20:47:40 UTC

Paul Ryan's District goes 60%-30% for Republican so its seems pretty safe

2018-08-03 20:47:59 UTC

The Conservative running is

2018-08-03 20:48:01 UTC

Eh

2018-08-03 20:48:25 UTC

Doesn't even have Immigration as an issue on his website

2018-08-03 20:48:32 UTC

Did Paul Ryan?

2018-08-03 20:48:39 UTC

Not sure

2018-08-03 20:48:51 UTC

It may not be a district that needs a strong immigration stance.

2018-08-03 20:49:02 UTC

Paul Ryan was pretty cucky on immigration

2018-08-03 20:52:42 UTC

Minnesota:
Senate 33-33 (1 Vacancy) [D control until 2011, R control 2011-2012, D control/swingy ever since 2012]
House 77-56 (R) [D from 1992-1998, R from 1999-2006, D from 2007-2010, swing since 2010]

2018-08-03 20:52:47 UTC
2018-08-03 20:53:07 UTC

His ad just talked about Wisconsin Values

2018-08-03 20:53:26 UTC

But the guy running for Senate in Wisconsin doesn't seem to bad

2018-08-03 20:53:50 UTC

I may look up the four Rust Belt races later on today, get a good overview of them

2018-08-03 20:53:55 UTC

Yep

2018-08-03 20:54:04 UTC

Michigan is probably a lost cause

2018-08-03 20:54:25 UTC

Wisconsin, Ohio and Pennsylvania I have a good feeling about eventhough PA seems kinda weak

2018-08-03 20:54:27 UTC

Nah

2018-08-03 20:54:33 UTC

Come on

2018-08-03 20:54:44 UTC

A Black guy winning in a White State?

2018-08-03 20:54:44 UTC

MI is probably one of our most likely pickups over there imo

2018-08-03 20:55:15 UTC

Sandy and James are pretty weak in my opinion

2018-08-03 20:55:16 UTC

The thing about whites is they have less baggage about voting for a blackie than the other way around

2018-08-03 20:55:39 UTC

But what makes him a strong candidate?

2018-08-03 20:55:45 UTC

Military record

2018-08-03 20:55:50 UTC

Supports the wall

2018-08-03 20:55:53 UTC

Pretty young

2018-08-03 20:55:55 UTC

Wisconsin:
Senate 18-15 (R) [R from 2003-2006, D from 2007-2010, R from 2011-2013)
House 64-35 (R) [R from 1995-2008, D from 2009-2010, back to R in 2011)

2018-08-03 20:56:23 UTC

I hate when candidates flex about their military background

2018-08-03 20:56:40 UTC

You a commie or something?

2018-08-03 20:56:53 UTC

No I just don't like it

2018-08-03 20:57:06 UTC

It's just good optics.

2018-08-03 20:57:39 UTC

What makes you special to go and preach about it

2018-08-03 20:57:42 UTC

It may annoy you but it has a very strong impression on most people

2018-08-03 20:57:48 UTC

Eh

2018-08-03 20:57:55 UTC

In the US, lots of people care about vets, that's the thing

2018-08-03 20:58:08 UTC

Pennsylvania:
Senate 33-16 (R) [R since 1994]
House 121-82 (R) [R since 2011]

2018-08-03 20:58:14 UTC

People will probably care more about him supporting Trump than his Military background

2018-08-03 20:58:21 UTC

"You serve the country on the battlefield, then you serve in politics"

2018-08-03 20:58:25 UTC

That kind of deal

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