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2018-05-06 23:59:41 UTC

I think it's much more than that.

2018-05-06 23:59:55 UTC

So, what did I miss?

2018-05-06 23:59:56 UTC

Well, Trump's hated in NOVA

2018-05-06 23:59:56 UTC

because local elections aren't reflective of the president very often.

2018-05-06 23:59:58 UTC

and that was enough

2018-05-07 00:00:09 UTC

But NOVA isn't where all the seats were flipped

2018-05-07 00:00:14 UTC

yes they were

2018-05-07 00:00:18 UTC

every single one?

2018-05-07 00:00:24 UTC

most of them

2018-05-07 00:00:35 UTC

No Trump overperfomed in many distrcits int he bottom right and left of the state

2018-05-07 00:00:42 UTC

Did I miss some apocalyptic stuff again?

2018-05-07 00:00:46 UTC

Compared to how republcians reformed in their state elections

2018-05-07 00:01:10 UTC

@๐ŸŽƒBoo-ton๐ŸŽƒ There's like several counties, bottom right and left

2018-05-07 00:01:12 UTC

take a look

2018-05-07 00:01:54 UTC

@GermanEastAfrica Zak here thinks that Virginia wasnโ€™t a blue state, even though they literally elected Terry McAullife, one of the high ranks in Hillary Clintonโ€™s campaign as governor years ago

2018-05-07 00:02:12 UTC

Clinton Republican

2018-05-07 00:02:15 UTC

that makes no sense

2018-05-07 00:02:18 UTC

It's a purple state, technically

2018-05-07 00:02:21 UTC

They voted for Clitnon and a republican

2018-05-07 00:02:28 UTC

Int he state election

2018-05-07 00:02:28 UTC

that probably won't last much longer tho

2018-05-07 00:02:31 UTC

i thought it'd be the other way around

2018-05-07 00:02:34 UTC

I don't believe that graph

2018-05-07 00:02:40 UTC

It's true.

2018-05-07 00:02:43 UTC

it would be they voted Trump and then Democrat in the state election

2018-05-07 00:02:46 UTC

k hang on

2018-05-07 00:03:06 UTC

@zakattack04 Look at this disaster

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/442838753879261187/67d32054-02d4-434f-8220-2bb73c51f1b8.png

2018-05-07 00:03:46 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/442838923362959370/feb356fd-2c64-4726-9147-f08d364e6dd6.png

2018-05-07 00:03:53 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/442838952865562634/435px-Virginia_Presidential_Election_Results_2016.svg.png

2018-05-07 00:03:55 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/442838959131852811/343px-Virginia_gubernatorial_election_results_by_county_2017.svg.png

2018-05-07 00:03:58 UTC

See the bottom right

2018-05-07 00:04:04 UTC

Blue went darker blue

2018-05-07 00:04:08 UTC

And red went lighter

2018-05-07 00:04:26 UTC

trump out performed against the generic republican in the state

2018-05-07 00:04:55 UTC

So i think it's less about trump and move about an actual Democratic grassroots support

2018-05-07 00:05:10 UTC

Trump did better than Gillespie because Hillary was on the ballot

2018-05-07 00:05:34 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/442839375324250132/ohghh_shit.png

2018-05-07 00:05:46 UTC

BASED Mullahs

2018-05-07 00:06:03 UTC

I hate Iran as much as I hate Israel

2018-05-07 00:06:14 UTC

Mostly because of the 1979 revolution

2018-05-07 00:07:07 UTC

I hate everyone

2018-05-07 00:09:54 UTC

"Trump did better than Gillespie because Hillary was on the ballot"

prove it

2018-05-07 00:09:54 UTC

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2018-05-07 00:10:28 UTC

@Deleted User Northam wasn't that liberal

2018-05-07 00:11:05 UTC

@Deleted User That statement is true for Rust Belt states

2018-05-07 00:11:08 UTC

Like Wisconsin

2018-05-07 00:11:12 UTC

But I dunno about vA

2018-05-07 00:11:34 UTC

He said that he oppose santuary cities

2018-05-07 00:11:42 UTC

he lied :)

2018-05-07 00:11:43 UTC

He was of course liying but still

2018-05-07 00:11:46 UTC

LOL

2018-05-07 00:11:48 UTC

yeah I know

2018-05-07 00:11:50 UTC

Ya'll got beaned

2018-05-07 00:11:55 UTC

At least Virginians

2018-05-07 00:11:57 UTC

anyway, it's obvious that Trump generates the kind of turnout that someone like Gillespie (or Button Mash) can't get

2018-05-07 00:12:05 UTC

Northam is the most progressive Virginia can really get

2018-05-07 00:12:23 UTC
2018-05-07 00:12:25 UTC

I liked that xD

2018-05-07 00:12:42 UTC

Virginia is still a somewhat sane state

2018-05-07 00:12:43 UTC

Its because Trump ran as a Populist not a Conservative

2018-05-07 00:12:58 UTC

They aren't going to elect Jerry Brown's twin brother

2018-05-07 00:13:11 UTC

Kevin de de de leon

2018-05-07 00:13:19 UTC

He took relatively moderate stances on Economic issues and focused on culteral issues

2018-05-07 00:13:37 UTC

If Gillespie talked about taxes more

2018-05-07 00:13:39 UTC

@Walter Johnson Ben Shapiro did a whole segment on how trump isn't a populist a while back

2018-05-07 00:13:48 UTC

He might have won over NoVA votes

2018-05-07 00:13:53 UTC

"populism isn't an ideology, it's a strategy"

2018-05-07 00:14:55 UTC

By populist I mean Right on cultural isses, and moderate on economic issues

2018-05-07 00:15:06 UTC

Like George Wallace or Huey long

2018-05-07 00:15:16 UTC

Huey long was like

2018-05-07 00:15:19 UTC

Far left on economics

2018-05-07 00:15:38 UTC

Maybe by 1930s standards

2018-05-07 00:15:44 UTC

yeah or Hitler

2018-05-07 00:16:00 UTC

I thought he advocated for a UBI

2018-05-07 00:16:04 UTC

Huey Long

2018-05-07 00:16:14 UTC

Hitler, Trump and Obama. All Leftist Authoritarians. <:trueconservative:423311896356061186>

2018-05-07 00:16:14 UTC

not sure

2018-05-07 00:16:20 UTC

I like him though

2018-05-07 00:16:24 UTC

Hitler was actually more right wing on economics than people think.

2018-05-07 00:16:28 UTC

At least than other "socialists"

2018-05-07 00:16:36 UTC

You like Huey Long?

2018-05-07 00:16:53 UTC

My favourite politician is an outright socialist

2018-05-07 00:16:56 UTC

Democratic Socialism = National Socialism <:trueconservative:423311896356061186>

2018-05-07 00:17:10 UTC

Yeah, regardless of his economic stances, the way he campaigned is the sort of feeling we must capture, he was a real dude, you know.

2018-05-07 00:17:18 UTC

"Nazis are Leftists"

2018-05-07 00:18:08 UTC

The GOP just need to make it clear that they won't cut funding for Social Security, Medicare, and Education

2018-05-07 00:18:09 UTC

"They say they don't like my methods. Well, I don't like them either. I really don't like to have to do things the way I do. I'd much rather get up before the legislature and say, 'Now this is a good law and it's for the benefit of the people, and I'd like you to vote for it in the interest of the public welfare.' Only I know that laws ain't made that way. You've got to fight fire with fire."
-Huey Long

2018-05-07 00:18:10 UTC

Ok fair I'll give you that Flanon

2018-05-07 00:18:18 UTC

You like him for his methods, not his ideology

2018-05-07 00:18:30 UTC

The problem is you keep having retards like Paul Ryan who want to do that

2018-05-07 00:18:49 UTC

but we should cut funding for those things >.>

2018-05-07 00:18:51 UTC

"I used to get things done by saying please. Now I dynamite 'em out of my path."
-Huey Long

2018-05-07 00:18:54 UTC

especially the DOE

2018-05-07 00:18:57 UTC

Honestly we should just try to sideline the hardcore fiscal conservatives

2018-05-07 00:18:58 UTC

It doesn't do anything

2018-05-07 00:19:23 UTC

Well say goodbye to the House Freedom Caucus then @Deleted User

2018-05-07 00:19:36 UTC

The ones who just fuck us over by just being a caricature of the greedy Republican who just wants to take away old peoples pensions

2018-05-07 00:19:38 UTC

At least don't cut funding for k-12 education

2018-05-07 00:19:47 UTC

"A mob is coming here in six months to hang the other ninety-five of you damned scoundrels, and I'm undecided whether to stick here with you or go out and lead them."
-Huey Long giving a speech on the Senate floor

2018-05-07 00:19:52 UTC

@Deleted User @zakattack04 Republican Factions by region

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/442842971201732608/republican_factions.png

2018-05-07 00:19:58 UTC

But that's the states job and always have been. The Department of education is like fucking useless

2018-05-07 00:20:05 UTC

like they did in Kansas

2018-05-07 00:20:09 UTC

The libertarian wing does nothing for us

2018-05-07 00:20:22 UTC

Well

2018-05-07 00:20:31 UTC

Rather Libertarian vote for us then vote 3rd party

2018-05-07 00:20:33 UTC

Ima eat

2018-05-07 00:20:55 UTC

If we have to choose between the working class voters

2018-05-07 00:20:59 UTC

and the libertarian lot

2018-05-07 00:21:04 UTC

I know which one i'd go for

2018-05-07 00:21:06 UTC

Divides among the Republican factions

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/442843285359427599/Republicans.jpg

2018-05-07 00:22:15 UTC

@zakattack04 Most people don't know jackshit what the DOE does and when they hear Republicans want to get rid off it and cut their funds they think it will hurt their local schools

2018-05-07 00:22:30 UTC

I know, but we should inform people mroe

2018-05-07 00:22:39 UTC

because it won't effect local schools

2018-05-07 00:23:00 UTC

Most people are dumb and that doesn't change

2018-05-07 00:23:47 UTC

It's not particularly productive to talk about politics at the national level,

2018-05-07 00:24:19 UTC

let's be a little bit more specific here on where we're talking about

2018-05-07 00:27:40 UTC

Let's talk about WV for a bit, I feel this is central location at them moment,
I suspect Blankenship's surge is based on a continued resentment against everyday Washington politics

2018-05-07 00:28:26 UTC

When Republican leadership attempts to thwart them, it only betters his odds

2018-05-07 00:28:31 UTC

Well, what is there to say?

2018-05-07 00:29:24 UTC

I have no clue what'll happen if we get this psychopath in, but who knows if that'll happen?

2018-05-07 00:29:34 UTC

What I think the GOP should do is keep their heads out of elections

2018-05-07 00:29:47 UTC

It's amazing how they haven't noticed the correlation

2018-05-07 00:29:56 UTC

Yes, only start funding when it reaches general

2018-05-07 00:29:58 UTC

Yeah any other state I would say he would lose, but this is WV so idk

2018-05-07 00:30:09 UTC

Whenever they try to dictate who should be the nominee, there is a strong backlash from the base

2018-05-07 00:30:20 UTC

Hell, even then there's not much good that happens, with the "Nancy Had a Little Lamb" nonsense

2018-05-07 00:31:15 UTC

There definitely needs to be an apparatus that isn't linked to the party but still endorses certain candidates

2018-05-07 00:31:35 UTC

Butt ocasionally you get guys like Todd Aiken or Roy Moore who blow a easily winnable race

2018-05-07 00:32:07 UTC

I think we'd probably need an organization that vets their people properly

2018-05-07 00:32:30 UTC

But isn't a detached washington establishment

2018-05-07 00:34:10 UTC

We just gotta hope Trump shoots down Blankenship in a tweet before the election and calls him a murderer or something.

2018-05-07 00:38:53 UTC

If Blankenship wins and Trump didn't endorse Jenkins beforehand,
the blame goes on Trump

2018-05-07 00:39:02 UTC

This is a state where Trump's influence can work

2018-05-07 00:39:03 UTC

of course

2018-05-07 00:39:23 UTC

I don't even know what I'd say if Blankenship won, he'd be worse than Moore

2018-05-07 00:39:45 UTC

a total trainwreck

2018-05-07 00:39:48 UTC

or should I say:

2018-05-07 00:39:51 UTC

a drumpfwreck

2018-05-07 00:39:59 UTC

He talks with a monotone dead voice, and the allegations against him are actually credible

2018-05-07 00:40:20 UTC

"swamp captain mitch mcconnell has created millions of jobs for chinapeople, while doing so, mitch has gotten rich. in fact his china family has given him tens of millions of dollars. mitch's swamp people are now running false, negative ads against me. they're also childishly calling me despicable and mentally ill. the war to drain the swamp, and create jobs for west virginia people has begun. i will beat joe manchin and ditch cocaine mitch, for the sake of the kids."

2018-05-07 00:40:40 UTC

-Next Senator from West Virginia

2018-05-07 00:52:33 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/442851197615996929/image.png

2018-05-07 01:38:39 UTC

for comparison

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/442862799849259028/compare.jpg

2018-05-07 01:43:43 UTC

fixed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/442864073261187073/va_17_among_white_voters_2.jpg

2018-05-07 02:30:13 UTC

Goodnight friends

2018-05-07 03:18:54 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/442888029078552589/unknown.png

2018-05-07 03:19:08 UTC

+2 for the Republicans due to the two Republicans running.

2018-05-07 03:19:21 UTC

so R+2 from their vote in 2016.

2018-05-07 03:39:50 UTC

@[Lex] Lol RIP /ourguy/ is almost 10 points behind

2018-05-07 03:43:38 UTC

yep.

2018-05-07 03:43:56 UTC

oh well.

2018-05-07 05:11:08 UTC

:)

2018-05-07 11:00:04 UTC

Trump just tweeted about Don Blakenship

2018-05-07 11:09:38 UTC

Would've been better if he endorsed one candidate and stood behind him, but this is much better than nothing.

2018-05-07 11:12:00 UTC

Trump comes out against Blankenship in West Virginia Senate race, says he โ€˜canโ€™t winโ€™

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/07/trump-comes-out-against-blankenship-in-west-virginia-senate-race-says-can-t-win.html

2018-05-07 13:26:38 UTC

@FLanon What a relief

2018-05-07 13:32:14 UTC

wtf

2018-05-07 13:32:19 UTC

Don Blankenship: The President is a very busy man and he doesnโ€™t know me and he doesnโ€™t know how flawed my two main opponents are in this primary..I will win the primary and I will beat Joe Manchin

2018-05-07 13:32:49 UTC

lol idiot

2018-05-07 13:39:35 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/443044227434414090/image.png

2018-05-07 13:44:33 UTC

Oh go away, Flake

2018-05-07 15:05:59 UTC

Two internal polls:

2018-05-07 15:06:01 UTC

Jenkins Camp:
Blankenship 31
Jenkins 28
Morrissey 27

Morrissey Camp:
Blankenship 28
Morrissey 27
Jenkins 14

2018-05-07 15:42:07 UTC

>Blankenship is actually leading

2018-05-07 15:42:12 UTC

West Virginia...

2018-05-07 16:30:47 UTC

An endorsement from Jeff Flake to either Jenkins or Morrisey would probably help Blankenship.

2018-05-07 16:31:06 UTC

Of course, I don't assume those polls were taken after the tweet

2018-05-07 16:31:31 UTC

<:wojaktrump:422438927631384577>

2018-05-07 18:25:51 UTC

We're done lol

2018-05-07 18:26:07 UTC

Our own voters are sinking us...

2018-05-07 18:26:26 UTC

@๐ŸŽƒBoo-ton๐ŸŽƒ think Trump can turn this around? Even though he shouldn't have to lol

2018-05-07 18:56:08 UTC

one of the biggest issues that ive been hearing on some of the campaigns I'm on is that trump voters are saying "well i voted for the big one, the presidency, now I'm done

2018-05-07 18:56:56 UTC

@Deleted User you've been hearing them say that ?

2018-05-07 18:57:02 UTC

yes

2018-05-07 18:57:11 UTC

I've heard that too

2018-05-07 18:57:15 UTC

where are you talking with them

2018-05-07 18:57:23 UTC

conference call i was on a week or two ago the Campaign manager

2018-05-07 18:57:37 UTC

It's pretty common among Trump supporters in /pig/

2018-05-07 18:57:41 UTC

wait, so are you hearing it directly from them, or from people saying it

2018-05-07 18:57:43 UTC

said that the struggle is that the dems and libs are mobilized

2018-05-07 18:57:46 UTC

yes

2018-05-07 18:57:48 UTC

/ptg/*

2018-05-07 18:58:09 UTC

yes i heard those words out of the mouth of the campaign manager who manages our team

2018-05-07 18:58:53 UTC

so like let's say hilldawg was elected

2018-05-07 18:59:08 UTC

we would probably be roaring and angry and ready to go

2018-05-07 18:59:09 UTC

Yes kween

2018-05-07 18:59:13 UTC

that's the dems

2018-05-07 18:59:14 UTC

wow, so you''re working on a House campaign I'm guessing ?

2018-05-07 18:59:20 UTC

no

2018-05-07 18:59:39 UTC
2018-05-07 19:00:08 UTC

Messing around,

2018-05-07 19:00:11 UTC

lel

2018-05-07 19:00:33 UTC

But I can confirm what you said from anecdotal accounts

2018-05-07 19:00:40 UTC

ok

2018-05-07 19:00:48 UTC

you on a campaign?

2018-05-07 19:01:14 UTC

I'm pretty low on the ladder I'm jsut makign calls rn until I get back to my home city

2018-05-07 19:01:14 UTC

Hi pretty low on the ladder I'm jsut makign calls rn until I get back to my home city, I'm Dad!

2018-05-07 19:04:07 UTC

No, so far I've stuck to donations and providing data to some campaign teams that I have a stake in

2018-05-07 19:04:12 UTC

Hi, I'm Dad!

2018-05-07 19:04:28 UTC

It does work!

2018-05-07 19:05:16 UTC

Like Kobach's bid for governor of Kansas

2018-05-07 19:07:04 UTC
2018-05-07 19:07:10 UTC

2:00 tommorrow, announcement on Iran Deal

2018-05-07 19:07:17 UTC

what type of data?

2018-05-07 19:07:34 UTC

Like voting groups, what we need to win etc et

2018-05-07 19:07:40 UTC

Wow this isn't sounding good lol

2018-05-07 19:08:50 UTC

oof oof iran bouta get their spaghets touched

2018-05-07 19:10:17 UTC

@Deleted User Precinct/County Level Data, typically. To display electoral trends and voting habits of the population.

2018-05-07 19:10:56 UTC

interesting. aare you involved in politics as a job?

2018-05-07 19:11:37 UTC

No, I just have a political agenda I want to see pushed forward

2018-05-07 19:11:46 UTC

ok

2018-05-07 19:28:40 UTC

thoughts on the Iran deal, folks?

2018-05-07 19:30:38 UTC

Well

2018-05-07 19:30:53 UTC

Iran was the origin of the "suicide bomber" meme

2018-05-07 19:31:16 UTC

I think the cultural power of Iran among the Islamic community is clear

2018-05-07 19:31:44 UTC

While they are Shia, and most terrorists nowadays are Sunni, they still hold vast influence in the region

2018-05-07 19:32:10 UTC

I think Saudi Arabia and Israel are only not collapsing because of US support

2018-05-07 19:32:37 UTC

If Islam is going to reform and modernize, it will have to come from a grass roots Movement out of Iran or maybe Turkey.

2018-05-07 19:33:11 UTC

It won't come from Northern Africa or the Arabian Peninsula or the Levant. Just not possible.

2018-05-07 19:33:43 UTC

I think a warming of political ties with Russia and Iran is just common sense

2018-05-07 19:34:18 UTC

And the Intermarium should be its own 3rd party political force of Eastern Europe, separate from EU or Russia

2018-05-07 19:34:29 UTC

(I.e. Poland Ukraine etc)

2018-05-07 19:34:55 UTC

It's possible that parts of Ukraine including Crimea will remain a part of the Russian sphere.

2018-05-07 19:35:10 UTC

But there were many ethnic Russians in those areas.

2018-05-07 19:35:48 UTC

A true Intermarium will be able to act as a force against both Western Europe and Russia

2018-05-07 19:36:07 UTC

And without the US as an enemy, Iran's more radical elements will lose favor

2018-05-07 19:37:54 UTC

Hungary, Poland, these should be the new close allies of the USA

2018-05-07 19:38:46 UTC

I agree.

2018-05-07 19:38:55 UTC

As the cultural war is basically all that is left between us and some totalitarian 1984 shit. (Aka invasive communism where children report on their parents to the secret police)

2018-05-07 19:39:15 UTC

The UK can't be a good ally as long as they keep doing literally everything anti-American they can to appease the Remain crowd.

2018-05-07 19:39:26 UTC

But the Visegrad Group is definitely an American ally

2018-05-07 19:39:31 UTC

Same for Austria et al

2018-05-07 19:40:22 UTC

Yea, Austria has shown a lot of promise. Even with the Green Party election, they used their military long before that to secure their border while Germany was still letting people in

2018-05-07 19:40:23 UTC

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2018-05-07 19:40:46 UTC

Nice, thank you Bot ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

2018-05-07 19:41:34 UTC

@Nuke Theresa May has done a horrible job with fulfilling the Brexit mandate

2018-05-07 19:41:55 UTC

So much so that people don't even talk about Brexit anymore

2018-05-07 19:42:18 UTC

It's as if Brussels won when Theresa May was put forward as the new Prime Minister

2018-05-07 19:42:50 UTC

Germany and Belgium are the worst offenders from a policial perspective

2018-05-07 19:42:59 UTC

Followed by U.K. And Sweden

2018-05-07 19:43:21 UTC

UK govt has shown itself incapable of fulfilling the will of the people

2018-05-07 19:43:52 UTC

It's strongest Brexit supporters were needed as leadership and instead they placed an anti-Brexit May in charge

2018-05-07 19:45:10 UTC

Historically "Bad" actors like Turkey, Iran, and Russia shouldn't be on the receiving end of political deals per se, no of course not. That is reserved for actual friends. But they should be allowed financial freedoms.

2018-05-07 19:45:58 UTC

Meanwhile Germany and Belgium should be hit with economic sanctions until they l Ave the EU (sanctions imposed by non EU members)

2018-05-07 19:46:12 UTC

Until they leave the EU

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