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2018-03-28 23:54:05 UTC

Thought May was next month

2018-03-28 23:54:10 UTC

Whoops

2018-03-28 23:54:33 UTC

.....

2018-03-28 23:54:37 UTC

Lol

2018-03-28 23:57:32 UTC

Either way,

2018-03-28 23:57:50 UTC

the importance of these primaries cannot be downplayed

2018-03-28 23:57:54 UTC

WHAT

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WHO

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HUH

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they serve as a clear indicator for the general

2018-03-28 23:58:06 UTC

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@Deleted User GIBBONS OR RENACCI

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WQHO

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FOR SENATE

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OF OHIO

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YOUR PRIMARIES ARE COMING UP

2018-03-28 23:58:37 UTC

PICK PICK PICK

2018-03-28 23:58:56 UTC

@Deleted User Hold on a minute

2018-03-28 23:58:56 UTC

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA PRESSURE

2018-03-28 23:59:02 UTC

What

2018-03-28 23:59:02 UTC

So Trump fired his VA secretary and replaced him with some guy named Ronny Jackson.

2018-03-28 23:59:09 UTC

C H A O S

2018-03-28 23:59:20 UTC

For Senate

2018-03-28 23:59:29 UTC

SLEEZEBAG LOOKING SUMBITCH

2018-03-28 23:59:31 UTC

That is Nicolas Cage

2018-03-28 23:59:34 UTC

VOTE GIBBONS

2018-03-29 00:00:05 UTC

Whoโ€™s Ronny Jackson?

2018-03-29 00:01:32 UTC

GOD

2018-03-29 00:04:26 UTC

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2018-03-29 00:04:30 UTC

The irony is too real

2018-03-29 00:05:07 UTC

Lol

2018-03-29 00:12:52 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/428708083834028032/1522110138633.gif

2018-03-29 00:18:08 UTC

Fun fact, there is audio of Jim Renacci saying that he is a โ€œBlue collar democratโ€

2018-03-29 01:35:48 UTC

That's stupid but I'm somehow not surprised.

2018-03-29 01:50:30 UTC

Ayo

2018-03-29 02:11:15 UTC

Dumb fuck leftists

2018-03-29 02:11:31 UTC

They don't understand the importance of negative liberty

2018-03-29 02:21:16 UTC

"Negative liberty" tends to be all the good stuff and "positive liberties" like contraception and abortion are what destroy civilization.

2018-03-29 02:27:42 UTC

WOKE SHIT^^^^^^^^

2018-03-29 03:56:10 UTC

David Hogg is so base

2018-03-29 03:56:46 UTC

Does anyone know if Darrell Issa is running for another district? I heard he was.

2018-03-29 04:00:22 UTC

I think 52

2018-03-29 04:01:59 UTC

no, it was the 50th district

2018-03-29 04:31:29 UTC

So there was this shitty Australian Comedy show that had a bit where they attacked 4Chan

2018-03-29 04:31:56 UTC

oooh, do tell

2018-03-29 04:32:18 UTC
2018-03-29 06:21:51 UTC

"Wait so I'm not into meditation but isn't it more of a new age liberal democrat thing? I though most conservatives followed Christianity. It's fine if I'm wrong I'm just wondering"

well, a lot of new age people are liberal, and new age people are into meditation, but it doesn't have to be a new age thing. Christians can meditate as well. In fact, you can regard prayer as a meditative activity.

Meditation isn't solely restricted to you sitting in a specific stance and staying quiet....meditation is ANY activity that trains concentration. Therefore, because you're concentrating during prayer, you are in fact meditating.

2018-03-29 06:24:40 UTC

"A small part of me is so blackpilled that I think there is no way a republican can win the president in 2020"

no, Trump still has the advantage for 2020

2018-03-29 06:28:14 UTC

"My idea is that we need to fight in the primaries for the most far-right candidates (but not too harshly) and ultimately endeavor to defend as many Reps/Governors as possible in November while going on an all-out offensive in the Senate to reach 62 votes."

yeah, we need to go at an all out offense when it comes to the Senate and play mostly defense when it comes to the House, while trying to pick off a select number of vulnerable Democrat incumbent seats to compensate

2018-03-29 06:28:31 UTC

(to compensate for any GOP incumbent House seats that get taken)

2018-03-29 06:29:55 UTC

"Democrats don't hold their politicans accountable ever"

that's actually true. I remember that when I was a leftist during the Obama years, many of us were pissed at Congress because they weren't able to enact the kind of "change" we were imagining. Obamacare for instance, was no where near single payer, and they even axed the public option

2018-03-29 06:30:49 UTC

"Impeacment would not get approved by the Senate."

yeah, even if the Democrats take the House, they cannot do impeachment

2018-03-29 06:32:17 UTC

"Infact the Bull Moose party cause the Republicans to lose the presidency."

lol yeah, Teddy Roosevelt pretty much made Taft lose and gave us Wilson

2018-03-29 06:34:49 UTC

"I am currently 5'4 and the rest are 6'2, 6'3, and 6'1"

manlet master race. I bet your gf is hotter than theirs. They probably are incels lmao

2018-03-29 06:35:25 UTC

"5'10" here"

that's not bad given the fact that if you were lifts you're no longer manlet master race tier

2018-03-29 09:23:09 UTC

You making fun of me

2018-03-29 11:38:14 UTC

Hmmmmmm

2018-03-29 12:53:29 UTC

@R E P T I L E Well it was on the Australian Broadcasting channel, and it was these 2 whores who kept singing about internet trolls and crap. Basically it was the internet in 2012, the tv show, because the feminists didnโ€™t know anything about the internet.

2018-03-29 14:41:15 UTC

Guys I have a great idea

2018-03-29 14:47:56 UTC

What is it?

2018-03-29 14:48:47 UTC

Were gonna troll some communist youtube videos/channels

2018-03-29 14:50:40 UTC

join us my guy

2018-03-29 14:54:51 UTC

!!!

2018-03-29 14:55:12 UTC

Oh boy

2018-03-29 14:55:12 UTC

Dems at +4 in latest Morning Consult poll ๐Ÿ‘€

2018-03-29 14:55:17 UTC

Ah

2018-03-29 14:55:19 UTC

Hmm

2018-03-29 14:55:24 UTC

How much do you trust that poll

2018-03-29 14:55:44 UTC

Assuming these are legit, it's unfortunate that Trump isn't catering to the base more

2018-03-29 14:56:04 UTC

I think it would be R+something if that was the case

2018-03-29 14:56:25 UTC

So are we going to troll those commie YouTubers?

2018-03-29 14:57:24 UTC

@Rhodesiaboo coordinate that in a separate channel

2018-03-29 14:57:55 UTC

How about <#409515675598454807> ?

2018-03-29 14:58:00 UTC
2018-03-29 14:58:40 UTC

Alright

2018-03-29 14:59:09 UTC

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2018-03-29 14:59:14 UTC

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2018-03-29 14:59:31 UTC

@FLanon @๐ŸŽƒBoo-ton๐ŸŽƒ what are your thoughts on this

2018-03-29 14:59:52 UTC

It's /r/BlueMidterm2018 discussing the effects of 2nd amendment hysteria

2018-03-29 15:01:01 UTC

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2018-03-29 15:01:12 UTC

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2018-03-29 15:02:49 UTC

I canโ€™t wait to see their reaction if they lose the midterms

2018-03-29 15:06:53 UTC

hopefully Republicans don't shoot themselves in the foot in October

2018-03-29 15:07:01 UTC

@Deleted User even if Trump catered to his base 100% it still be Democratic advantage. The only time it was R+ ever on those polls was in 2010 and it had the GOP at +2 and they ended up winning by +8

2018-03-29 15:07:49 UTC

He still needs the independents to vote for him, he can't rely purely on Republicans, especially when they're completely fractured.

2018-03-29 15:09:10 UTC

I know exactly how Trump can cater to independents, and I've said it so many times I'm sounding like a broken record

2018-03-29 15:09:13 UTC

NK

2018-03-29 15:10:20 UTC

or by doing a certain something he said he'd do at every single rally, every single day

2018-03-29 15:10:40 UTC

No lol

2018-03-29 15:10:52 UTC

Building the wall will not get the independent vote

2018-03-29 15:11:01 UTC

Immigration reform might

2018-03-29 15:11:23 UTC

If anything building an actual wall will turn off independents

2018-03-29 15:11:30 UTC

Because of how moderate they are

2018-03-29 15:11:32 UTC

i was talking about R E P E A L Osamacare

2018-03-29 15:11:45 UTC

They don't want that wither

2018-03-29 15:11:49 UTC

Either*

2018-03-29 15:11:50 UTC

we're talking about independent appeal

2018-03-29 15:12:01 UTC

Lasted Poll said most people want modify not repeal

2018-03-29 15:12:10 UTC

Independents don't vote

2018-03-29 15:12:14 UTC

I know that many independents voted for Trump to stop Clinton from getting in

2018-03-29 15:12:19 UTC

this race isn't about appealing to more voters

2018-03-29 15:12:23 UTC

Independents decide elections

2018-03-29 15:12:25 UTC

this is about maximizing turnout

2018-03-29 15:12:31 UTC

Yeah wtf are you talking about?

2018-03-29 15:12:43 UTC

look,

2018-03-29 15:12:52 UTC

we need as many voters as we can get without cucking ourselves

2018-03-29 15:12:53 UTC

no one is going to change their mind about Trump

2018-03-29 15:12:56 UTC

that is set in stone

2018-03-29 15:13:06 UTC

"even if Trump catered to his base 100% it still be Democratic advantage. The only time it was R+ ever on those polls was in 2010 and it had the GOP at +2 and they ended up winning by +8"

lmao I wonder if that means we could add R+6 or something to these averages

2018-03-29 15:13:06 UTC

I don't believe that

2018-03-29 15:13:11 UTC

?

2018-03-29 15:13:13 UTC

Democratic turnout is going to be through the roof, republican turn out won't

2018-03-29 15:13:18 UTC

You need the independent vote

2018-03-29 15:13:28 UTC

But independents despise Trump

2018-03-29 15:13:37 UTC

A North Korea solution would legitimize Trump's behavior to a lot of skeptics.

2018-03-29 15:13:39 UTC

why would they change their mind about mind?

2018-03-29 15:13:42 UTC

"no one is going to change their mind about Trump"

that doesn't make sense

2018-03-29 15:13:44 UTC

That is my point

2018-03-29 15:13:49 UTC

I changed my mind about Trump myself

2018-03-29 15:13:50 UTC

in 2016

2018-03-29 15:13:58 UTC

@Deleted User when I get home lll show you the poll vs the result, it's pretty surprising

2018-03-29 15:14:15 UTC

You really believe, that after all the scandals, all the allegations, every controversial statement,

2018-03-29 15:14:21 UTC

independents will cozy up to him?

2018-03-29 15:14:24 UTC

"Democratic turnout is going to be through the roof, republican turn out won't"

well, let's see what happens before November 6

2018-03-29 15:14:32 UTC

"You really believe, that after all the scandals, all the allegations, every controversial statement,
independents will cozy up to him?"

yeah

2018-03-29 15:14:40 UTC

I don't believe that

2018-03-29 15:14:41 UTC

you're underestimating how peoples' minds can change

2018-03-29 15:14:44 UTC

Independents don't depose trump as a whole, not ever independent is the same

2018-03-29 15:14:53 UTC

the data shows,

2018-03-29 15:15:02 UTC

obviously you're still butthurt about the omnibus and the wall and are inspired by Ann Coulter

2018-03-29 15:15:06 UTC

a majority of independents disapprove the president

2018-03-29 15:15:09 UTC

ThE DaTa ShOWs

2018-03-29 15:15:15 UTC

not a plurality, the majority

2018-03-29 15:15:22 UTC

Shut the fuck up about that for a moment and actually listen to me

2018-03-29 15:15:33 UTC

A majority of them liked his STOU address, and a majority disapprove of trump anyway

2018-03-29 15:15:38 UTC

Also >data

2018-03-29 15:15:46 UTC

If a former steak salesman can get NK to disarm when 3 "normal" presidents couldn't, then people will go "you know, that guy says some crazy stuff, but he gets stuff done".

2018-03-29 15:15:54 UTC

The same data that said it was impossible for Trump to take WI

2018-03-29 15:15:59 UTC

Even CNN realized this.

2018-03-29 15:16:08 UTC

Polls aren't as reliable has historical comparison

2018-03-29 15:16:09 UTC

it's that the only thing you're gambling on?

2018-03-29 15:16:18 UTC

It's one thing.

2018-03-29 15:16:22 UTC

what if NK leads to nothing, then

2018-03-29 15:16:35 UTC

what then does Trump do to swoon over the low-info voters

2018-03-29 15:16:36 UTC

Then he won't get a lot of support among independents

2018-03-29 15:16:38 UTC

I never brought up NK on case it doesn't lol

2018-03-29 15:16:58 UTC

Because there's s chance it wont

2018-03-29 15:17:26 UTC

What else would give him a lot of moderate/independent support exactly?

2018-03-29 15:17:32 UTC

But Kim seems pretty adamant on capitulating, Trump's sanctions have gutted their economy

2018-03-29 15:17:34 UTC

Let me put in this some perspective

2018-03-29 15:17:44 UTC

Is there anything, I dunno,

2018-03-29 15:17:51 UTC

It has to be something which is unprecedented in the eyes of the masses.

2018-03-29 15:17:56 UTC

Obama could do to you to make you like him as a President?

2018-03-29 15:18:01 UTC

suppose he still was,

2018-03-29 15:18:02 UTC

Nuremburg 2.0

2018-03-29 15:18:03 UTC

for just a moment

2018-03-29 15:18:12 UTC

I'm far right

2018-03-29 15:18:27 UTC

I'm not exactly an independent

2018-03-29 15:18:31 UTC

Yeah lol

2018-03-29 15:18:32 UTC

Maybe some space related thing?

2018-03-29 15:18:32 UTC

If pizzagate turns out to be true, if Hillary Clinton gets arrested, and/or if a huge scandal involving all of the democrat senators comes out, the Dems will be anally fucked and lose a lot of seats.@

2018-03-29 15:18:43 UTC

Okay,

2018-03-29 15:18:45 UTC

Nah

2018-03-29 15:18:50 UTC

@๐ŸŽƒBoo-ton๐ŸŽƒ lol I'm sure that a lot of GOP voters would like Obama if he built the wall, cut taxes massively, reversed Roe V Wade, et cetera

2018-03-29 15:18:53 UTC

you suppose you don't care about policy

2018-03-29 15:18:58 UTC

They'll still win, scandals don't touch democrats

2018-03-29 15:19:07 UTC

suppose you only care about rhetoric and presentation

2018-03-29 15:19:08 UTC

Menendez is set to win again

2018-03-29 15:19:12 UTC

If he suddenly turned hard right and built a wall and revoked birthright citizenship then I'd support him

2018-03-29 15:19:21 UTC

Trump is crass and crude,

2018-03-29 15:19:26 UTC

to but it mildly,

2018-03-29 15:19:39 UTC

Independents don't like that in the Presidency,

2018-03-29 15:19:53 UTC

they want the President to be a man they can have their children look up to

2018-03-29 15:19:56 UTC

for inspiration

2018-03-29 15:19:58 UTC

Letโ€™s say a picture emerged of a democrat senator literally raping a child

2018-03-29 15:20:04 UTC

Who tells their kids,

2018-03-29 15:20:22 UTC

"You can grow up to be like President Trump one day?"

2018-03-29 15:20:32 UTC

I don't know, he gets a dog or something like that? He does more SOTU speeches?

2018-03-29 15:20:38 UTC

@Rhodesiaboo that'd work

2018-03-29 15:20:46 UTC

One every year

2018-03-29 15:20:57 UTC

I'm not sure Trump is willing to undergo a change in character

2018-03-29 15:21:10 UTC

I think Trump enjoys the sort of chaos in the White House

2018-03-29 15:21:32 UTC

the controversy, the turmoil,

2018-03-29 15:21:47 UTC

Independents, man

2018-03-29 15:21:48 UTC

remember, Trump was a game show host, essentially

2018-03-29 15:21:54 UTC

If his behavior can become legitimized by something, some major problem no one can fix that he did, then he can get independent support.

2018-03-29 15:21:56 UTC

he's into this sort of thing

2018-03-29 15:21:58 UTC

Get to the point Mash

2018-03-29 15:22:26 UTC

Trump needs to recede into the wallpaper

2018-03-29 15:22:39 UTC

What do you mean?

2018-03-29 15:22:45 UTC

he need blend into the woodwork,

2018-03-29 15:22:58 UTC

He needs to be like an average president?

2018-03-29 15:23:00 UTC

stop being in the headlines all the time

2018-03-29 15:23:04 UTC

yes, sorta

2018-03-29 15:23:07 UTC

That'll never change

2018-03-29 15:23:09 UTC

not in terms of policy

2018-03-29 15:23:16 UTC

The media will have him in the headlines

2018-03-29 15:23:20 UTC

No matter what

2018-03-29 15:23:25 UTC

If not him the GOP

2018-03-29 15:23:30 UTC

"He needs to be like an average president?"

lol he's much better off NOT being an average President

2018-03-29 15:23:36 UTC

Yeah

2018-03-29 15:23:45 UTC

but,

2018-03-29 15:23:52 UTC

look at his approval numbers

2018-03-29 15:23:54 UTC

one of his strengths is that he's so eccentric

2018-03-29 15:23:55 UTC

they're awful

2018-03-29 15:23:57 UTC

>approval numbers

2018-03-29 15:24:11 UTC

his approval numbers were shit in 2016 too

2018-03-29 15:24:15 UTC

and polls show Americans largely support Trump's policies

2018-03-29 15:24:18 UTC

Another would be if a Picture emerged of a democrat senator meeting with a Mexican Cartel leader or a Islamic Terrorist leader and trading stuff.

2018-03-29 15:24:19 UTC

he doesn't need to bring them up by disappearing

2018-03-29 15:24:28 UTC

it's clear we need to capitalize on the Democrats' fuck ups

2018-03-29 15:24:29 UTC

Again, approval numbers are extremely unreliable, and haven't held up to historical tests

2018-03-29 15:24:31 UTC

his disapproval is rooted in character concerns

2018-03-29 15:24:39 UTC

like the fact that they're screwing up right now when it comes to the 2nd amendment

2018-03-29 15:24:45 UTC

also I love Trump for his character

2018-03-29 15:24:56 UTC

more politicians should be like him

2018-03-29 15:24:57 UTC

The problem isnโ€™t the Republicans, the republicans have a high approval rating of him. The problem is that he is so abhorred by the democrats.

2018-03-29 15:24:58 UTC

well, of course you do, you're from New York

2018-03-29 15:25:03 UTC

Yeah we didn't elect someone presidential, that was the point

2018-03-29 15:25:05 UTC

"well, of course you do, you're from New York"

yep

2018-03-29 15:25:20 UTC

Obama was "Presidential"

2018-03-29 15:25:24 UTC

Hilary was very presidential

2018-03-29 15:25:30 UTC

Really?

2018-03-29 15:25:35 UTC

I don't want any more feminist white knights in the Oval Office again

2018-03-29 15:25:35 UTC

Yeahl

2018-03-29 15:25:42 UTC

Look,

2018-03-29 15:25:43 UTC

She was the wife of a president who literally raped women

2018-03-29 15:25:43 UTC

Look at her debate diction

2018-03-29 15:25:46 UTC

depends on how yo udefine Presidential, of course

2018-03-29 15:25:48 UTC

being presidential,

2018-03-29 15:25:55 UTC

doesn't mean having to be a cuck,

2018-03-29 15:25:59 UTC

or a pushover,

2018-03-29 15:26:02 UTC

Bill was still presidential in he public eyes

2018-03-29 15:26:16 UTC

Trump can be presidential and still be a fighter

2018-03-29 15:26:16 UTC

The point is his behavior has to be legitimized by something, and that will bring up his approval rating.

2018-03-29 15:26:24 UTC

for instance,

2018-03-29 15:26:42 UTC

when Trump called out that WaPo journalist for lying about his Florida rally size?

2018-03-29 15:26:52 UTC

This entire discussion is a fucking waste of time, we are not going to change Trump, let's focus on what we can actually effect.

2018-03-29 15:26:53 UTC

that was a moment it was justified for Trump to attack the media

2018-03-29 15:27:00 UTC

Obamaโ€™s approval rating was by 2015, at 40%, heading down to the 30s

2018-03-29 15:27:19 UTC

If Trump is going to attack someone, it should at least be justified and specific

2018-03-29 15:27:23 UTC

Yeah Obama had terrible approval ratings until he left office

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