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Thought May was next month
Whoops
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Lol
Either way,
the importance of these primaries cannot be downplayed
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they serve as a clear indicator for the general
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What
So Trump fired his VA secretary and replaced him with some guy named Ronny Jackson.
C H A O S
For Senate
SLEEZEBAG LOOKING SUMBITCH
That is Nicolas Cage
VOTE GIBBONS
Whoโs Ronny Jackson?
GOD
The irony is too real
Lol
Fun fact, there is audio of Jim Renacci saying that he is a โBlue collar democratโ
That's stupid but I'm somehow not surprised.
Ayo
Dumb fuck leftists
They don't understand the importance of negative liberty
"Negative liberty" tends to be all the good stuff and "positive liberties" like contraception and abortion are what destroy civilization.
WOKE SHIT^^^^^^^^
David Hogg is so base
Does anyone know if Darrell Issa is running for another district? I heard he was.
I think 52
no, it was the 50th district
So there was this shitty Australian Comedy show that had a bit where they attacked 4Chan
oooh, do tell
"Wait so I'm not into meditation but isn't it more of a new age liberal democrat thing? I though most conservatives followed Christianity. It's fine if I'm wrong I'm just wondering"
well, a lot of new age people are liberal, and new age people are into meditation, but it doesn't have to be a new age thing. Christians can meditate as well. In fact, you can regard prayer as a meditative activity.
Meditation isn't solely restricted to you sitting in a specific stance and staying quiet....meditation is ANY activity that trains concentration. Therefore, because you're concentrating during prayer, you are in fact meditating.
"A small part of me is so blackpilled that I think there is no way a republican can win the president in 2020"
no, Trump still has the advantage for 2020
"My idea is that we need to fight in the primaries for the most far-right candidates (but not too harshly) and ultimately endeavor to defend as many Reps/Governors as possible in November while going on an all-out offensive in the Senate to reach 62 votes."
yeah, we need to go at an all out offense when it comes to the Senate and play mostly defense when it comes to the House, while trying to pick off a select number of vulnerable Democrat incumbent seats to compensate
(to compensate for any GOP incumbent House seats that get taken)
"Democrats don't hold their politicans accountable ever"
that's actually true. I remember that when I was a leftist during the Obama years, many of us were pissed at Congress because they weren't able to enact the kind of "change" we were imagining. Obamacare for instance, was no where near single payer, and they even axed the public option
"Impeacment would not get approved by the Senate."
yeah, even if the Democrats take the House, they cannot do impeachment
"Infact the Bull Moose party cause the Republicans to lose the presidency."
lol yeah, Teddy Roosevelt pretty much made Taft lose and gave us Wilson
"I am currently 5'4 and the rest are 6'2, 6'3, and 6'1"
manlet master race. I bet your gf is hotter than theirs. They probably are incels lmao
"5'10" here"
that's not bad given the fact that if you were lifts you're no longer manlet master race tier
You making fun of me
Hmmmmmm
@R E P T I L E Well it was on the Australian Broadcasting channel, and it was these 2 whores who kept singing about internet trolls and crap. Basically it was the internet in 2012, the tv show, because the feminists didnโt know anything about the internet.
Guys I have a great idea
What is it?
Were gonna troll some communist youtube videos/channels
join us my guy
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Oh boy
Dems at +4 in latest Morning Consult poll ๐
Ah
Hmm
How much do you trust that poll
Assuming these are legit, it's unfortunate that Trump isn't catering to the base more
I think it would be R+something if that was the case
So are we going to troll those commie YouTubers?
@Rhodesiaboo coordinate that in a separate channel
How about <#409515675598454807> ?
Alright
@FLanon @๐Boo-ton๐ what are your thoughts on this
It's /r/BlueMidterm2018 discussing the effects of 2nd amendment hysteria
I canโt wait to see their reaction if they lose the midterms
hopefully Republicans don't shoot themselves in the foot in October
@Deleted User even if Trump catered to his base 100% it still be Democratic advantage. The only time it was R+ ever on those polls was in 2010 and it had the GOP at +2 and they ended up winning by +8
He still needs the independents to vote for him, he can't rely purely on Republicans, especially when they're completely fractured.
I know exactly how Trump can cater to independents, and I've said it so many times I'm sounding like a broken record
NK
or by doing a certain something he said he'd do at every single rally, every single day
No lol
Building the wall will not get the independent vote
Immigration reform might
If anything building an actual wall will turn off independents
Because of how moderate they are
i was talking about R E P E A L Osamacare
They don't want that wither
Either*
we're talking about independent appeal
Lasted Poll said most people want modify not repeal
Independents don't vote
I know that many independents voted for Trump to stop Clinton from getting in
this race isn't about appealing to more voters
Independents decide elections
this is about maximizing turnout
Yeah wtf are you talking about?
look,
we need as many voters as we can get without cucking ourselves
no one is going to change their mind about Trump
that is set in stone
"even if Trump catered to his base 100% it still be Democratic advantage. The only time it was R+ ever on those polls was in 2010 and it had the GOP at +2 and they ended up winning by +8"
lmao I wonder if that means we could add R+6 or something to these averages
I don't believe that
?
Democratic turnout is going to be through the roof, republican turn out won't
You need the independent vote
But independents despise Trump
A North Korea solution would legitimize Trump's behavior to a lot of skeptics.
why would they change their mind about mind?
"no one is going to change their mind about Trump"
that doesn't make sense
That is my point
I changed my mind about Trump myself
in 2016
@Deleted User when I get home lll show you the poll vs the result, it's pretty surprising
You really believe, that after all the scandals, all the allegations, every controversial statement,
independents will cozy up to him?
"Democratic turnout is going to be through the roof, republican turn out won't"
well, let's see what happens before November 6
"You really believe, that after all the scandals, all the allegations, every controversial statement,
independents will cozy up to him?"
yeah
I don't believe that
you're underestimating how peoples' minds can change
Independents don't depose trump as a whole, not ever independent is the same
the data shows,
obviously you're still butthurt about the omnibus and the wall and are inspired by Ann Coulter
a majority of independents disapprove the president
ThE DaTa ShOWs
not a plurality, the majority
Shut the fuck up about that for a moment and actually listen to me
A majority of them liked his STOU address, and a majority disapprove of trump anyway
Also >data
If a former steak salesman can get NK to disarm when 3 "normal" presidents couldn't, then people will go "you know, that guy says some crazy stuff, but he gets stuff done".
The same data that said it was impossible for Trump to take WI
Even CNN realized this.
Polls aren't as reliable has historical comparison
it's that the only thing you're gambling on?
It's one thing.
what if NK leads to nothing, then
what then does Trump do to swoon over the low-info voters
Then he won't get a lot of support among independents
I never brought up NK on case it doesn't lol
Because there's s chance it wont
What else would give him a lot of moderate/independent support exactly?
But Kim seems pretty adamant on capitulating, Trump's sanctions have gutted their economy
Let me put in this some perspective
Is there anything, I dunno,
It has to be something which is unprecedented in the eyes of the masses.
Obama could do to you to make you like him as a President?
suppose he still was,
Nuremburg 2.0
for just a moment
I'm far right
I'm not exactly an independent
Yeah lol
Maybe some space related thing?
If pizzagate turns out to be true, if Hillary Clinton gets arrested, and/or if a huge scandal involving all of the democrat senators comes out, the Dems will be anally fucked and lose a lot of seats.@
Okay,
Nah
@๐Boo-ton๐ lol I'm sure that a lot of GOP voters would like Obama if he built the wall, cut taxes massively, reversed Roe V Wade, et cetera
you suppose you don't care about policy
They'll still win, scandals don't touch democrats
suppose you only care about rhetoric and presentation
Menendez is set to win again
If he suddenly turned hard right and built a wall and revoked birthright citizenship then I'd support him
Trump is crass and crude,
to but it mildly,
Independents don't like that in the Presidency,
they want the President to be a man they can have their children look up to
for inspiration
Letโs say a picture emerged of a democrat senator literally raping a child
Who tells their kids,
"You can grow up to be like President Trump one day?"
I don't know, he gets a dog or something like that? He does more SOTU speeches?
@Rhodesiaboo that'd work
One every year
I'm not sure Trump is willing to undergo a change in character
I think Trump enjoys the sort of chaos in the White House
the controversy, the turmoil,
Independents, man
remember, Trump was a game show host, essentially
If his behavior can become legitimized by something, some major problem no one can fix that he did, then he can get independent support.
he's into this sort of thing
Get to the point Mash
Trump needs to recede into the wallpaper
What do you mean?
he need blend into the woodwork,
He needs to be like an average president?
stop being in the headlines all the time
yes, sorta
That'll never change
not in terms of policy
The media will have him in the headlines
No matter what
If not him the GOP
"He needs to be like an average president?"
lol he's much better off NOT being an average President
Yeah
but,
look at his approval numbers
one of his strengths is that he's so eccentric
they're awful
>approval numbers
his approval numbers were shit in 2016 too
and polls show Americans largely support Trump's policies
Another would be if a Picture emerged of a democrat senator meeting with a Mexican Cartel leader or a Islamic Terrorist leader and trading stuff.
he doesn't need to bring them up by disappearing
it's clear we need to capitalize on the Democrats' fuck ups
Again, approval numbers are extremely unreliable, and haven't held up to historical tests
his disapproval is rooted in character concerns
like the fact that they're screwing up right now when it comes to the 2nd amendment
also I love Trump for his character
more politicians should be like him
The problem isnโt the Republicans, the republicans have a high approval rating of him. The problem is that he is so abhorred by the democrats.
well, of course you do, you're from New York
Yeah we didn't elect someone presidential, that was the point
"well, of course you do, you're from New York"
yep
Obama was "Presidential"
Hilary was very presidential
Really?
I don't want any more feminist white knights in the Oval Office again
Yeahl
Look,
She was the wife of a president who literally raped women
Look at her debate diction
depends on how yo udefine Presidential, of course
being presidential,
doesn't mean having to be a cuck,
or a pushover,
Bill was still presidential in he public eyes
Trump can be presidential and still be a fighter
The point is his behavior has to be legitimized by something, and that will bring up his approval rating.
for instance,
when Trump called out that WaPo journalist for lying about his Florida rally size?
This entire discussion is a fucking waste of time, we are not going to change Trump, let's focus on what we can actually effect.
that was a moment it was justified for Trump to attack the media
Obamaโs approval rating was by 2015, at 40%, heading down to the 30s
If Trump is going to attack someone, it should at least be justified and specific
Yeah Obama had terrible approval ratings until he left office
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