like the fact that they're screwing up right now when it comes to the 2nd amendment

also I love Trump for his character

more politicians should be like him

The problem isn’t the Republicans, the republicans have a high approval rating of him. The problem is that he is so abhorred by the democrats.

well, of course you do, you're from New York

Yeah we didn't elect someone presidential, that was the point

"well, of course you do, you're from New York"

yep

Obama was "Presidential"

Hilary was very presidential

Really?

I don't want any more feminist white knights in the Oval Office again

Yeahl

Look,

She was the wife of a president who literally raped women

Look at her debate diction

depends on how yo udefine Presidential, of course

being presidential,

doesn't mean having to be a cuck,

or a pushover,

Bill was still presidential in he public eyes

Trump can be presidential and still be a fighter

The point is his behavior has to be legitimized by something, and that will bring up his approval rating.

for instance,

when Trump called out that WaPo journalist for lying about his Florida rally size?

This entire discussion is a fucking waste of time, we are not going to change Trump, let's focus on what we can actually effect.

that was a moment it was justified for Trump to attack the media

Obama’s approval rating was by 2015, at 40%, heading down to the 30s

If Trump is going to attack someone, it should at least be justified and specific

Yeah Obama had terrible approval ratings until he left office

When Trump shouts "Fake News" all the time and doesn't give specific examples of it, it looks bad

So did Reagan, and behold he carries 48 states

We're not going to change Trump! Focus on things we can be productive with!

Issue is, Trump's not going to change, we've got to work with what we've got.

I'm not saying we will,

I'm saying it's unrealistic to expect Independents to go with Trump unless his rhetoric changes

unless,

extraordinary circumstances

like a denuclearized NK

seemingly extraordinary

but I'm not convinced it will happen

nothing is 100%