I know that many independents voted for Trump to stop Clinton from getting in

this race isn't about appealing to more voters

Independents decide elections

this is about maximizing turnout

Yeah wtf are you talking about?

look,

we need as many voters as we can get without cucking ourselves

no one is going to change their mind about Trump

that is set in stone

"even if Trump catered to his base 100% it still be Democratic advantage. The only time it was R+ ever on those polls was in 2010 and it had the GOP at +2 and they ended up winning by +8"

lmao I wonder if that means we could add R+6 or something to these averages

I don't believe that

?

Democratic turnout is going to be through the roof, republican turn out won't

You need the independent vote

But independents despise Trump

A North Korea solution would legitimize Trump's behavior to a lot of skeptics.

why would they change their mind about mind?

"no one is going to change their mind about Trump"

that doesn't make sense

That is my point

I changed my mind about Trump myself

in 2016

@Deleted User when I get home lll show you the poll vs the result, it's pretty surprising

You really believe, that after all the scandals, all the allegations, every controversial statement,

independents will cozy up to him?

"Democratic turnout is going to be through the roof, republican turn out won't"

well, let's see what happens before November 6

"You really believe, that after all the scandals, all the allegations, every controversial statement,
independents will cozy up to him?"

yeah

I don't believe that

you're underestimating how peoples' minds can change

Independents don't depose trump as a whole, not ever independent is the same

the data shows,

obviously you're still butthurt about the omnibus and the wall and are inspired by Ann Coulter

a majority of independents disapprove the president

ThE DaTa ShOWs

not a plurality, the majority

Shut the fuck up about that for a moment and actually listen to me

A majority of them liked his STOU address, and a majority disapprove of trump anyway

Also >data

If a former steak salesman can get NK to disarm when 3 "normal" presidents couldn't, then people will go "you know, that guy says some crazy stuff, but he gets stuff done".

The same data that said it was impossible for Trump to take WI

Even CNN realized this.

Polls aren't as reliable has historical comparison