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2018-01-14 23:17:12 UTC

not everything is some machiavellian scheme

2018-01-14 23:19:24 UTC

Why do McCain and Flake both have low approval ratings in AZ? Will it turn blue or at least purple?

2018-01-14 23:19:47 UTC

they're both hated within their own party

2018-01-14 23:20:04 UTC

I don't doubt it's possible

2018-01-14 23:21:20 UTC

I thought they had low approval ratings because AZ is shifting more liberal idk

2018-01-14 23:21:31 UTC

it's partly that

2018-01-14 23:21:40 UTC

Also, Ted Cruz is hated with both the Republicans and Democrats, but he's really popular here in TX

2018-01-14 23:21:46 UTC

Senate Republicans and Democrats*

2018-01-14 23:21:46 UTC

partly because they're hated by many in the right as well

2018-01-14 23:22:23 UTC

Ted Cruz seems hated by other GOP politiicans, but not really the electorate in the same way McCain is

2018-01-14 23:22:30 UTC

Flake and McCain are risks when it comes to ordinary R legislation

2018-01-14 23:23:14 UTC

Ted stays on the ball when it comes to getting stuff done in the senate though

2018-01-14 23:37:51 UTC

The best thing Trump could do heading in to the midterms is avoid further drama

2018-01-14 23:38:32 UTC

lmao that's the one thing we can count on not happening

2018-01-14 23:38:41 UTC

A weekly/monthly cycle of negative Trump headlines depresses GOP turnout

2018-01-14 23:39:54 UTC

That and the media/twitter makes its own drama surrounding him now. Trump could jaywalk and it would be national news for a week.

2018-01-14 23:40:59 UTC

one thing I think could give him the edge is the possibility of the clintons going down

2018-01-14 23:41:11 UTC

Oh right,

2018-01-14 23:41:17 UTC

if it happens near the midterms I could definitely see it galvanizing a lot of Rs

2018-01-14 23:41:24 UTC

they reopened the investigation, for those that don't know

2018-01-14 23:41:31 UTC

but,

2018-01-14 23:41:50 UTC

It could have little effect if Democrats disavow Hillary en masse

2018-01-14 23:42:20 UTC

remember after the baseball game where the majority whip got shot

2018-01-14 23:42:26 UTC

it would be a massive victory for Trump and his base would turnout to the polls at 90%+ however

2018-01-14 23:43:24 UTC

normies associate party members with other party members, that kind of news could breathe some new life into the electiosn

2018-01-14 23:43:29 UTC

elections*

2018-01-14 23:45:19 UTC

point is, having the "swamp drained" would be a gigantic victory for the right wing in general and bring a lot of new excitement to those who voted against clinton they hadn't felt since the presidency

2018-01-14 23:45:24 UTC

it'd be the story of the decade

2018-01-14 23:46:04 UTC

With Comey out and the DOJ under Sessions, there's at least a chance of it now

2018-01-14 23:46:24 UTC

no way of knowing until it happens

2018-01-14 23:46:51 UTC

until then, I'd focus on getting these people in office

2018-01-14 23:47:53 UTC

In 1994, the Republicans gained a whopping 53 seats in the House,

2018-01-14 23:48:09 UTC

one of the most dramatic upsets in political history,

2018-01-14 23:48:16 UTC

the strategy was simple,

2018-01-14 23:48:57 UTC

the GOP sent out consultants to diners in small towns all across America to ask them what they disliked about Washington,

2018-01-14 23:50:32 UTC

from what they said, the RNC crafted what was known as the "Contract to America",
a list of legislative promises to fulfil if they gained control of Congress

2018-01-14 23:51:22 UTC

Newt Gingrich is on Trump's side

2018-01-14 23:51:24 UTC

the GOP got a bunch of young, new Republicans to run and saw a enormous shift to the party

2018-01-14 23:51:33 UTC

Trump will definitely be listening to him for this election season

2018-01-14 23:51:35 UTC

the thing is, how do we accomplish something similar w/ an R congress and president

2018-01-14 23:52:04 UTC

the problem is today most politicians are old and out of touch

2018-01-14 23:52:09 UTC

defining something like a MAGA contract for candidates running for congress

2018-01-14 23:52:22 UTC

Trump definitely should have a strategy room for this, it's the most important thing possible between now and 2020

2018-01-14 23:52:34 UTC

most politicians have never been to a small town except for maybe a pre-planned photo op

2018-01-14 23:52:43 UTC

from what I can tell, Trump not only knows it's super important, but it'll be one of his main prioritis this year

2018-01-14 23:53:37 UTC

I started making these election threads a bit earlier...arguably it's even too early for people to care about the primaries right now

2018-01-14 23:53:45 UTC

this will get him a wall, RAISE, obamacare repeal, whatever he wants, he would fulfill so many campaign promises potentially with congress that much on his side if he breaks the amnesty coalition

2018-01-14 23:54:20 UTC

I'm sure there are lots of people PLANNING to run right now though, it's just that voters won't start caring about primaries until springtime at the very least

2018-01-14 23:55:00 UTC

Have you ever wondered why Trump did so well in South Carolina?
Here's why,

2018-01-14 23:56:00 UTC

y'know, some day I may run if the opportunity arises

2018-01-14 23:56:08 UTC

this image, it might not seem like much. But it did wonders for optics. It made South Carolinians feel like he was at there level

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/402249559574577173/south_carolina.jpg

2018-01-14 23:56:16 UTC

there's so much damn potential that can be done nowadays

2018-01-14 23:57:14 UTC

kinda like the pic of Nehlen w/ a Five Guys wrapper, it brings him down to earth, right?

2018-01-14 23:57:24 UTC

yeah

2018-01-14 23:57:47 UTC

I'm going to be very, very, very surprised if there aren't a decent amount of congressional candidates using Trumpian tactics

2018-01-14 23:58:55 UTC

the thing we have to figure out is how we get about channeling that grassroots energy into a party with a majority in Congress

2018-01-14 23:59:13 UTC

technically the amnesty coalition is the majority, but the Rs have the illusion of power

2018-01-15 00:00:14 UTC

we seem like the "establishment" now to the uninformed person, how do we turn it around?

2018-01-15 00:00:25 UTC

Oh, oh,

2018-01-15 00:00:38 UTC

I was reading this report by AP the other day,

2018-01-15 00:00:51 UTC

the thing is, 'uninformed' people tend to be those who don't even bother voting, much less in the midterms

2018-01-15 00:01:09 UTC

so that doesn't really matter

2018-01-15 00:01:36 UTC

I mean uninformed in the sense of watching MSM day after day, not really as apolitical

2018-01-15 00:01:49 UTC

misinformed would be more correct

2018-01-15 00:01:54 UTC

they interviewed some Trump voters in Appalachia,
they said it would mean the world to them if Trump went down personally there to see them.
not like a rally, just to look around and talk to them

2018-01-15 00:02:10 UTC

I'd say that people who voted for Trump can be counted on to vote against the democrats

2018-01-15 00:02:39 UTC

especially if he campaigns all around the country with the congressional candidates he backs

2018-01-15 00:03:06 UTC

definitely

2018-01-15 00:03:25 UTC

neverTrumpers can also be counted on to vote against the democrats, or at least they can be influenced to do so

2018-01-15 00:03:26 UTC

the Trump physical energy rallies people like nothing else

2018-01-15 00:03:49 UTC

I have no doubt that Moore would've won if Trump made an appearance in Alabma

2018-01-15 00:03:52 UTC

Alabama

2018-01-15 00:03:58 UTC

now when it comes to leftists...the idea is to get them not to turn out, but one thing I'll concede is that their sperged out rage will motivate them to turn out

2018-01-15 00:04:13 UTC

however, their sperg rage will also turn off independents and moderates

2018-01-15 00:04:56 UTC

Trump voters + neverTrumpers + independents/moderates --> left gets btfo

2018-01-15 00:05:24 UTC

maybe we can try a reprisal on the Hillary effect? "hey you guys won Alabama, West Virginia is going to be just fine", something along those lines.

2018-01-15 00:05:24 UTC

The Suburbs are key

2018-01-15 00:05:32 UTC

Trump MUST win over Suburbs

2018-01-15 00:05:42 UTC

that's the thing

2018-01-15 00:05:46 UTC

Alabama can give them false confidence

2018-01-15 00:06:00 UTC

thankfully

2018-01-15 00:06:13 UTC

maybe if the economy stays on Trump's side and the tax bill can allow them to flourish, they may turn more friendly to Trump?

2018-01-15 00:06:25 UTC

rather, I'd say it doesn't matter how confident leftist voters are, but it DOES matter how confident (in a wrong way) Democratic party strategists are

2018-01-15 00:06:56 UTC

I tell you what, if someone in the last administration goes to prison, that'll bring fire right to the base

2018-01-15 00:07:16 UTC

I'm not sure what's going on behind closed doors with Democrat officials, but if they believe they won Alabama because of Trump and people joining their side (instead of Moore's pedo allegations and GOP backstabbing), it could lead them to massively fucking up this year

2018-01-15 00:08:04 UTC

maybe that'd be an ironic twist to Moore losing, that it brings more senate seats to the right than if he would've won

2018-01-15 00:08:14 UTC

Suburban voters don't like Trump's rhetoric, but small town voters love it,
that's a bit of issue, Trump can't appease both at the same time

2018-01-15 00:08:16 UTC

at least that's a fantasy I'd like to imagine

2018-01-15 00:08:48 UTC

the thing is, it doesn't matter much if suburban voters don't like Trump's rhetoric, because the rhetoric of whoever the congressional candidates are for their specific areas, will matter more

2018-01-15 00:09:06 UTC

suburban voters could probably be put to excitement by more "normie conservative" type accomplishments like taxes and the such

2018-01-15 00:09:20 UTC

@FLanon it depends on the strategies the Democrats adopt

2018-01-15 00:09:31 UTC

in what sense

2018-01-15 00:10:08 UTC

you can guarantee that the deranged leftist types will be out to vote, but if they're trumped by independents / moderates it'll fuck them up

2018-01-15 00:10:52 UTC

so in that case, how do we motivate the moderates to vote for Rs?

2018-01-15 00:10:54 UTC

also, there may be quite a few Democrat voters who aren't deranged spergs, who won't show up to vote

2018-01-15 00:12:16 UTC

well, one good way to motivate the moderates is to show them how crazy the left has become, and that the Democrats will represent the kinds of people who go to ANTIFA rallies, support SJW bullshit, want hardcore socialism, etc

2018-01-15 00:12:19 UTC

It'll be important that Republicans pitch the tax cuts like crazy,
people might not realize why they have more money, remember.

2018-01-15 00:12:26 UTC
2018-01-15 00:12:34 UTC

I tell you, if Trump does something big justice-wise, there'll be a lot more trump base voters who will show up to the polls. Campaign ads would be crazy, lot of hype would enter the ring, and that would make it unnecessary for the need to involve libertarians and moderates

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