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2018-01-15 00:12:49 UTC

there should be a two pronged strategy of "look how good the economy is doing" and "look how crazy the left is"

2018-01-15 00:12:51 UTC

the economy slant could be good for moderates

2018-01-15 00:13:00 UTC

also,

2018-01-15 00:13:19 UTC

um, ISIS is gone, people. and so many people don't realize it.

2018-01-15 00:13:24 UTC

also, I hope the GOP uses the Democrats' Russia LARPing to fuck them up

2018-01-15 00:13:35 UTC

yeah, emphasize ISIS's defeat too

2018-01-15 00:14:17 UTC

that'd be more of a Trump issue in specific than republican congressional candidates

2018-01-15 00:15:00 UTC

Jesus, Congress really haven't done anything with the legislative power they have

2018-01-15 00:15:10 UTC

what would motivate someone to go and vote for the right wing

2018-01-15 00:15:14 UTC

it really sucks

2018-01-15 00:15:36 UTC

In 1994 for contrast, the GOP put a new law out nearly every month

2018-01-15 00:15:44 UTC

under a Democrat president too

2018-01-15 00:16:21 UTC

the Newt Gingrich Congress was insanely energetic

2018-01-15 00:16:39 UTC

if the republicans were as enthusiastic to vote for trump's policies as the democrats are to vote against them, we'd have the wall already completely built by now

2018-01-15 00:17:42 UTC

the fact we even have to make deals is ridiculous

2018-01-15 00:17:55 UTC

deals _within_ the Republican party

2018-01-15 00:18:04 UTC

yeah

2018-01-15 00:18:20 UTC

this is why Trump's gotta mold the GOP

2018-01-15 00:18:47 UTC

issue is that all that potential may have been squandered after Moore

2018-01-15 00:18:56 UTC

McConnell has a lot more clout now

2018-01-15 00:19:28 UTC

The GOP _has_ been united when it comes to Trump's judiciary appointments,

2018-01-15 00:19:31 UTC

molding the GOP should be something that to focus on after the midterms and after 2020

2018-01-15 00:19:40 UTC

in Arizona there'll definitely be a better R than Flake up, but what do we do other than that?

2018-01-15 00:19:59 UTC

it wasn't realistic to try molding it from 2016-2018

2018-01-15 00:20:12 UTC

sorry, define mold

2018-01-15 00:20:21 UTC

shift the core

2018-01-15 00:20:41 UTC

changing it into a specifically Trump/MAGA party, instead of the party of G Dubya Bush / McCain / Romney

2018-01-15 00:20:43 UTC

make it to where when you think "republican" you think Trump and not Bush/McCain

2018-01-15 00:21:03 UTC

no amnesty, America First

2018-01-15 00:21:18 UTC

that kind of thing

2018-01-15 00:21:30 UTC

so basically, Tom Cotton types?

2018-01-15 00:21:40 UTC

with more energy

2018-01-15 00:22:10 UTC

it's hard to think of an example, really

2018-01-15 00:22:20 UTC

if Moore won, that kind of person

2018-01-15 00:24:11 UTC

not just immigration hardliners, which is extremely important, but a care for the US in trade, allowing our interests to be beholden to no other nation

2018-01-15 00:24:52 UTC

Oh oh

2018-01-15 00:25:03 UTC

Tom Cotton just pointed out something 50 seconds ago,

2018-01-15 00:25:18 UTC

if Democrats shut down the government over dreamers, it'll cost them

2018-01-15 00:25:48 UTC

I've heard that angle, not sure if it'll be valid, but it's worth a shot

2018-01-15 00:26:16 UTC

If Congress can't pass a budget in 5 days, it'll happen

2018-01-15 00:26:22 UTC

I think personally Trump set the 'DACA deal' up to fail

2018-01-15 00:26:40 UTC

yeah I know, I'm focusing more on DACA than the shutdown

2018-01-15 00:27:44 UTC

Trump's been placing the blame on the inevitable fall of the deal on DACA, where he can frame that as the Dems screwing up

2018-01-15 00:29:25 UTC

It's like a catch-22, if no deal is made, the Dems couldn't save the Dreamers when the Rs were willing to make a deal, if a deal is made, then a shift in the immigration system will have less legal immigration which will cost Dems, also Trump would get the wall which may make Dems look weak.

2018-01-15 00:29:56 UTC

I don't know how the average voter would interpret it, but fingers are crossed all things considered

2018-01-15 00:31:38 UTC

"I don't know how the average voter would interpret it,"

yeah, that's the thing

2018-01-15 00:31:56 UTC

many leftists and minorities will still turn out for the Democrats regardless

2018-01-15 00:32:04 UTC

I don't even know if DACA is going to be relevant in 10 months

2018-01-15 00:32:17 UTC

probably not as much were it not for Trump's move

2018-01-15 00:33:35 UTC

We'll see about what it does, I hope Trump has a good strategy in mind

2018-01-15 00:33:43 UTC

I think we're better off getting Trumpians and neverTrumpers to turn out along with getting moderates and independents on our side

2018-01-15 00:33:48 UTC

than to try to depress leftist turnout

2018-01-15 00:34:19 UTC

you're better off trying to get a leftist to abandon the left first than to convince them not to vote

2018-01-15 00:34:34 UTC

btw, someone should bump the general

2018-01-15 00:34:35 UTC

right now

2018-01-15 00:34:37 UTC

oops

2018-01-15 00:34:40 UTC

just got archived

2018-01-15 00:34:44 UTC

oh well

2018-01-15 00:34:51 UTC

I'll make a new one later tonight

2018-01-15 00:35:20 UTC

lot of Belgian shills on those threads

2018-01-15 00:35:31 UTC

lmao yeah, it's probably the same guy though

2018-01-15 00:35:42 UTC

meanwhile thread w/ subject 'fat fuck' has 300 replies

2018-01-15 00:35:46 UTC

I've noticed a lot of blatant shilling from posters with European flags

2018-01-15 00:35:50 UTC

in the early morning

2018-01-15 00:35:58 UTC

what a shitty website, I swear

2018-01-15 00:36:10 UTC

when I make it later in the day (beyond 5pm eastern time), it's less dominated by shills

2018-01-15 00:36:12 UTC

yeah

2018-01-15 00:36:21 UTC

it's wayyyyy to easy to slide /pol/

2018-01-15 00:36:49 UTC

quality definitely has been depressed in the last few months

2018-01-15 00:36:49 UTC

I'm wondering why 'Krautgate' is getting so many threads that easily reach the post limit

2018-01-15 00:37:07 UTC

I never even bothered to watch "Kraut and Tea"

2018-01-15 00:37:13 UTC

and don't follow e-celeb drama

2018-01-15 00:37:22 UTC

eceleb stuff is interesting to people, getting people in office isn't

2018-01-15 00:38:10 UTC

Elections will become more interesting as they loom closer

2018-01-15 00:38:33 UTC

from what I gather Kraut got a race realism advocate taken off the internet, then made a discord to dox a bunch of people on the right, it got leaked, then he shut his channel down

2018-01-15 00:38:44 UTC

There was a thread for the Czech election just a few hours ago

2018-01-15 00:38:44 UTC

skeptic community dies, end of story

2018-01-15 00:39:54 UTC

anyways, I think getting the people who voted Trump to vote in the midterms is a good way to go, maybe Trump has some kind of justice plot brewing behind the scenes, but I'm not placing all my chips on that

2018-01-15 00:40:12 UTC

new thread

2018-01-15 00:40:36 UTC

@FLanon yeah, I know the sparknotes version of the story behind the Krautgate thing

2018-01-15 00:40:39 UTC

maybe we could shill tax reform to moderates, and it could work, not 100% on that though

2018-01-15 00:40:45 UTC

but why the fuck are there still so many generals reaching the bump limit

2018-01-15 00:40:56 UTC

I figured it would have fizzled out weeks ago

2018-01-15 00:41:07 UTC

yeah it seems like a done and over story, Jim made his last video on it

2018-01-15 00:41:29 UTC

from what I can tell, Krautgate general just looks like eceleb general now

2018-01-15 00:41:39 UTC

it's not just about the original Krautgate story anymore

2018-01-15 00:41:59 UTC

lol my new thread is ALREADY ON PAGE 5

2018-01-15 00:42:05 UTC

the debates w/ spencer and sargon are a lot more fresh in terms of eceleb stuff than the kraut story

2018-01-15 00:42:14 UTC

lemme get on the thread real quicl

2018-01-15 00:42:18 UTC

I made it only 4 minutes ago

2018-01-15 00:42:57 UTC

that's the nature of /pol/ I guess

2018-01-15 00:42:59 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/402261348890705920/2.PNG

2018-01-15 00:43:39 UTC

I'm not sure what you'd call that first thread ("you seem troubled anon...")

2018-01-15 00:43:41 UTC

no one complains about any of the threads except for ours

2018-01-15 00:43:43 UTC

just "slide thread" I guess

2018-01-15 00:43:56 UTC

hypothetical scenario thread?

2018-01-15 00:44:22 UTC

it's a hypothetical scenario with a clickbaity picture and low effort clickbaity title though

2018-01-15 00:44:33 UTC

it's just so fucking unproductive that it's insane

2018-01-15 00:44:48 UTC

2nd one is a general thread on the Balkans that probably would be more appropriate for /int/

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