creation-vs-evolution

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2020-03-11 00:52:35 UTC

Bruh

2020-03-11 00:52:56 UTC

But Adam and Eve were both white, so how the heck were black people made

2020-03-11 00:53:07 UTC

depends on the stage of the fetus (also murder is the *unlawful* killing of a person so it would be manslaughter not murder)

2020-03-11 00:53:13 UTC

Or Asians

2020-03-11 00:53:36 UTC

i have already told you how @Mr. Meatball

2020-03-11 00:53:42 UTC

Thats a very good question i cannot answer

2020-03-11 00:53:57 UTC

No you havenโ€™t

2020-03-11 00:53:58 UTC

@Mr. Meatball but how do we know they were white?

2020-03-11 00:54:26 UTC

Well if they werenโ€™t white there are still way more races that just 2 people couldnโ€™t produce

2020-03-11 00:54:44 UTC

The โ€˜history is all fakeโ€™ crowd tend to have an agenda as well. Sure history is written by the winners, but they didnโ€™t put millions of balls of 98% pure sulfur (which canโ€™t occur in nature) along the Dead Sea where the five cities were located.

According to Abraham it rained fire and sulfur against those 5 cities and turned them into ash (calcium carbonate).

Pure sulfur isnโ€™t natural.

You get 38-40% sulfur from volcanic activity.

https://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2008/05/Sodom-and-Gomorrah-Is-There-Evidence-for-Their-Destruction.aspx

http://godasmywitness.com/have-the-ruins-of-sodom-and-gomorrah-been-found/

https://youtu.be/eI34BVEXhJc

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/335401793620017152/486135563322392576/image0.jpg

2020-03-11 00:54:46 UTC

Remember pregnancy is never perfect

2020-03-11 00:55:34 UTC

Itโ€™s from the ruins of ghomorrah.

The walls were a limestone concrete. They were heated to a point where theyโ€™re were baked into calcium phosphate.

And thereโ€™s no volcanic activity there.

Which is why people who have this really profane understanding of โ€˜what the Bible really meansโ€™ when you can go here yourself and see the ruins.

2020-03-11 00:55:37 UTC

Also if the Adam and Eve story is true, that makes us all ret*rd babies

2020-03-11 00:55:56 UTC

I donโ€™t know if Iโ€™ll get warned again for swearing so I censored myself

2020-03-11 00:56:02 UTC

The Saudi authorities have this entire area cordoned off. They donโ€™t patrol it but youโ€™re not allowed to go there.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484538352574529557/486418441956229120/image0-9-1-1.jpg

2020-03-11 00:56:19 UTC

but gohmorrah is thought to be in Syria, which did have volcanic activity during the Bronze Age

2020-03-11 00:56:40 UTC

Itโ€™s named Mt Sinai.
It was named that maybe a century ago.
This is Jabal al Lawz. Which was the name and still is the name of the real location.
Iโ€™m assuming they changed the location to keep away the curious.
I donโ€™t know for sure but into looks pretty damn literal to me.

Below... it is the real mt Sinai with black, heated rock at the top.

These drawings are all over that rock. And itโ€™s in the valley with the real mt Sinai.

The valley with the altar to the golden calf. I think these qualify as โ€˜primary source observationโ€™

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458199261637771264/494315305947103263/image0-24.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458199261637771264/494315306651615254/image0-11.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458199261637771264/494315307297406976/image0-25.jpg

2020-03-11 00:57:20 UTC

Ron Wyatt found the Ark in turkey (not ON mt Ararat). Heโ€™s also the guy who found this region which was already slightly patrolled.

Well he didnโ€™t find the ark. But heโ€™s he first person to lead an expedition to shoot X-rays into the ground to figure out what it was.

The charlatans in the mainstream creationism community claim the ark is on mt Ararat and also that mt Sinai is in the Sinai National Park. Thatโ€™s why I view the mainstream creationism groups as controlled opposition like Flat Earth Society.

Ararat is of course in the distance from this object. But the Bible says it landed in the region OF Ararat not ON Ararat.

This is my single greatest criticism of the ppl who says history is totally faked by the Vatican.
1) thatโ€™s an unprovable assumption
2) I have evidence of history from accidental confirmation (high altitude photography)
3) I have evidence of history from explorative confirmation (piecing together biblical writings to find the five cities which were exactly where it said they would be) It also attributes more power to the church than they actually have. But theyโ€™d love for everyone to think they have hat kind of power.
Same with governments. Strongest flood evidence is geology, polystrata fossils etc. The entire Eastern USA was a lake that drained through the Grand Canyon. We are seeing proof!This is pretty good primary evidence.This isnโ€™t some made up Greek writing stuff down in a dusty hall. This is archeological remains.Which werenโ€™t discovered until the 1940s.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484538352574529557/486419611638562816/image0-20-1.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484538352574529557/486419611638562819/image0-18-1.jpg

2020-03-11 00:57:21 UTC

heres my source if you want it

2020-03-11 00:57:49 UTC

well its above the last comment but its pretty big

2020-03-11 00:58:09 UTC
2020-03-11 00:58:19 UTC

Yes?

2020-03-11 00:58:20 UTC

Nobody is perfect due to their mistake

2020-03-11 00:58:34 UTC

It makes more sense than humans evolving

2020-03-11 00:58:42 UTC

Because if so why wouldent we see it more

2020-03-11 00:58:52 UTC

And saying the thing died out is a lame excuse

2020-03-11 00:58:53 UTC

racial evolution makes sense to me

2020-03-11 00:58:54 UTC

What, no it doesnโ€™t

2020-03-11 00:59:01 UTC

Not you Josh

2020-03-11 00:59:15 UTC

Racial evolution does make sense

2020-03-11 00:59:28 UTC

I cannot imagine life without evolution

2020-03-11 00:59:33 UTC

I can

2020-03-11 00:59:49 UTC

It makes sense

2020-03-11 00:59:51 UTC

I think that Jesus was a real person but he was not the son of god

2020-03-11 00:59:51 UTC

Adam and eve sin

2020-03-11 00:59:56 UTC

Get kicked out of the garden

2020-03-11 00:59:59 UTC

Start life

2020-03-11 01:00:04 UTC

Flood takes everyone beside 2

2020-03-11 01:00:08 UTC

They make more babies

2020-03-11 01:00:08 UTC

Thereโ€™s no proof of Adam and Eve though

2020-03-11 01:00:21 UTC

I think there is

2020-03-11 01:00:50 UTC

my problem with the creationist theory is the 6000 years old thing cause that makes no sense

2020-03-11 01:01:10 UTC

I think that the most likely explanation for human life is that there is a god, but itโ€™s not the Christian god or any other god people on earth have heard of

2020-03-11 01:01:25 UTC

Itโ€™s just some random god who decided to make us one day

2020-03-11 01:01:41 UTC

Well there have been people who have died and went to heaven but got sent back

2020-03-11 01:02:05 UTC

Good book btw

2020-03-11 01:02:30 UTC

Yeah but other people have died and not remembered anything but darkness until they are brought back

2020-03-11 01:02:39 UTC

They say it felt disgusting

2020-03-11 01:02:52 UTC

Called going to hell mg

2020-03-11 01:03:06 UTC

Everyone goes to heaven

2020-03-11 01:03:14 UTC

And after judgement they either stay or get sent down

2020-03-11 01:04:06 UTC

Hell is fire and torture

2020-03-11 01:04:47 UTC

Yup

2020-03-11 01:04:50 UTC

2020-03-11 01:04:57 UTC

Crud I forgot

2020-03-11 01:05:00 UTC

Dm

2020-03-11 01:05:12 UTC

I can say it without swearing

2020-03-11 01:05:43 UTC

If god really does send people to hell just for being atheist, then heโ€™s a huge jerk

2020-03-11 01:05:50 UTC

No

2020-03-11 01:05:51 UTC

No

2020-03-11 01:05:55 UTC

yes

2020-03-11 01:05:59 UTC

You need to accept god into your heart

2020-03-11 01:06:06 UTC

Its their choice

2020-03-11 01:06:11 UTC

some people never learn about christianity

2020-03-11 01:06:22 UTC

He gives you a chance to accept him

2020-03-11 01:06:27 UTC

so that makes no sense

2020-03-11 01:07:00 UTC

When the 2nd coming happens everyone will have chance after chance to accept him before judgement

2020-03-11 01:07:04 UTC

I think that if the christian God is the real one, good people go to heaven even if they arent christian, like gandhi

2020-03-11 01:07:11 UTC

If youโ€™re an amazing person that has done nothing wrong but just didnโ€™t believe in him because there wasnโ€™t any proof and you go to hell for it, thatโ€™s a terrible thing for a god to do to someone

2020-03-11 01:07:29 UTC

Wether your perfect or not we all sinned

2020-03-11 01:07:31 UTC

Remember dude

2020-03-11 01:07:38 UTC

We were born from adam and eve

2020-03-11 01:07:43 UTC

We arent our own species

2020-03-11 01:08:01 UTC

what

2020-03-11 01:08:30 UTC

thats stupid

2020-03-11 01:08:39 UTC

If I go to hell because I donโ€™t believe in the Christian god, Iโ€™m going to go to satan and make a deal with him to take over heaven and become best bros

2020-03-11 01:08:40 UTC

@Mr. Meatball just like someone bullying your sister, you give them many chances to stop and they dont so you kick their as

2020-03-11 01:08:43 UTC

Is that being a jerk?

2020-03-11 01:09:06 UTC

@Mr. Meatball uh the devil is being destroyed

2020-03-11 01:09:08 UTC

Thatโ€™s different to not believing in someone because there isnโ€™t any proof of them

2020-03-11 01:09:18 UTC

No, heโ€™s still alive and well

2020-03-11 01:09:19 UTC

im gonna shoot a basketball through gods halo

2020-03-11 01:09:22 UTC

Satan currently dwells in hell

2020-03-11 01:09:32 UTC

I know

2020-03-11 01:09:35 UTC

After jesus comes back satan is being destoryed

2020-03-11 01:09:47 UTC

He already has

2020-03-11 01:09:54 UTC

He was the most beautiful angel their was

2020-03-11 01:10:06 UTC

But he rebelled god

2020-03-11 01:10:14 UTC

Jesus was real but he was not the son of god, and he stayed dead

2020-03-11 01:10:20 UTC

And all he wants is for people to betray god

2020-03-11 01:10:26 UTC

thomas is a muslim

2020-03-11 01:10:34 UTC

@Mr. Meatball bruh he died and was resurrected

2020-03-11 01:10:38 UTC

I would too if god was that much of a jerk

2020-03-11 01:10:43 UTC

**HOW**

2020-03-11 01:10:50 UTC

Because he was by god

2020-03-11 01:10:57 UTC

Who is Thomas?

2020-03-11 01:11:08 UTC

In the bible it talks about how the stone was rolled away from the tomb

2020-03-11 01:11:27 UTC

Now i gotta get a shower

2020-03-11 01:11:32 UTC

Its been a good debate

2020-03-11 01:11:32 UTC

Gg

2020-03-11 01:12:05 UTC

Bye bye

2020-03-13 21:13:54 UTC

In both creation and evolution theories, there is a big question: What started it all? What caused God to exist, and what caused the big bang to occur

2020-03-13 21:15:12 UTC

I do not know personally (nobody does) but the evolutionary theory is useful as a tool to predict what will and has happened on earth, so I'm sticking with it

2020-03-14 05:38:29 UTC

Exactly

2020-03-14 05:38:35 UTC

Youโ€™re completely right

2020-03-14 12:32:29 UTC

Gay

2020-03-14 23:40:28 UTC

Produce shows how we have used evolution for the betterment of society

2020-03-15 06:24:55 UTC

yea the real question is what is the mechanism of action of evolution

2020-03-15 19:33:16 UTC

The Remains Of Sodom & Gomorrah Found By Ron Wyatt. God Left The Evidence For Us All To See. https://youtu.be/A_EiCvsK3KE

2020-03-16 11:01:56 UTC

I've got doubts

2020-03-16 12:07:26 UTC

then you better resolve them soon

2020-03-16 20:23:34 UTC

pope said evo is real lol

2020-03-17 05:45:57 UTC

lol

2020-03-18 17:16:51 UTC

So uh why did god give whales pelvic bones

2020-03-18 18:05:51 UTC

why is structural element that is similar to another one but serves a similar purpose and does the job efficiently there.

2020-03-21 17:51:45 UTC

Please somebody give me a somehow valid reason that evolution doesnโ€™t exist

2020-03-21 17:51:48 UTC

I want to argue

2020-03-22 04:58:52 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515915069784085/691148872059191326/Screenshot_20200321-215824_Chrome.jpg

2020-03-22 04:59:34 UTC

That article was stupid

2020-03-22 08:24:58 UTC

How do you know the age of the fossils?

2020-03-22 08:25:06 UTC

by which rock layer we find them in

2020-03-22 08:25:14 UTC

How do you know the age of the rock layer?

2020-03-22 08:25:27 UTC

by which fossils we find in them

2020-03-22 11:36:23 UTC

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2020-03-22 16:02:55 UTC

paleontology

2020-03-22 16:03:00 UTC

archaeology

2020-03-22 16:03:15 UTC

astronomy

2020-03-22 16:03:42 UTC

theoretical physics

2020-03-22 16:05:04 UTC

Earth science

2020-03-22 16:05:58 UTC

geology

2020-03-22 16:06:09 UTC

am I missing one ?

2020-03-26 09:05:40 UTC

@MelonWelon where's the scientific proof for evolution? It's obvious adaptation happens but a complete change from one species to another is not proven scientifically.

2020-03-26 12:20:26 UTC

We have heaps of evidence for speciation (micro- and macroevolution); from the lab and the wild, embryology, hybridisation, morphology, fossil records, dna analysis, chromosomal changes...

2020-03-26 13:47:23 UTC

Speciation is microevolution. not macroevolution. for which we have no evidence. we've never observed a bird produce a non-bird.

2020-03-26 14:01:06 UTC

Macroevolution starts with speciation. It's hard to draw the line between micro and macro. Macro is basically an accumulation of micro over time

2020-03-26 15:56:53 UTC

There is no scientific evidence to support that. it's an opinion

2020-03-26 15:57:04 UTC

and you know it

2020-03-26 15:59:22 UTC

I can send you a list of scientific peer reviewed papers on it, if you're interested?

2020-03-26 16:48:47 UTC

only if they contain repeatable experiments where a bird turns into a non-bird. if it's paleontology data it's useless. it tells you nothing because it's not science. they cannot apply the scientific method. one has to dream up a story to explain it. science: directly observable, testable, repeatable, and falsifiable. if your papers meet those critieria then please attach the links. if not, you may as well print them out and use them for toilet paper

2020-03-26 17:31:17 UTC

"Where a bird turns into a non-bird". Yea, that's not how science works. I believe you're talking about magic.. Palaeontology and palaeoecology are not useless, but ok, I mean, palaeontology is a scientific field after all. Try again
You want empirical evidence? Sure thing, here you go. Four links to start you off https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/ele.12460, https://nph.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/nph.12374, https://www.pnas.org/content/116/27/13440, https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/37/1/183/5570178

2020-03-26 17:40:13 UTC

all microevolution (speciation/adaptation)

2020-03-26 17:40:45 UTC

as expected

2020-03-26 17:40:51 UTC

bcs macroevolution is impossible

2020-03-26 17:42:38 UTC

paleontology is not a scientific field. they cannot apply the scientific method. they look at fossils

2020-03-26 17:43:19 UTC

a fossil can't even tell you that if that organism even reproduced...

2020-03-26 17:51:29 UTC

You didn't seem to read what I said, so let me repeat (no worries mate, you're good). Micro describes mechanisms that alter the frequencies of alleles (within species), yea? Macro describes patterns at a grand scale across vast time periods. The only difference is the timescale involved. Cool? Btw, what do you mean by "they cannot apply the scientific method"?

2020-03-26 18:02:56 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484515915069784085/692795743232196618/sci_method.jpg

2020-03-26 19:13:39 UTC

what am i supposed to get from this?

2020-03-26 19:19:55 UTC

@Flat Earth PhD the fact that the fossil is there means it's parents reproduced at one point smh.... The study of fossils proves evolution

2020-03-26 19:20:24 UTC

๐Ÿ‘

2020-03-26 19:20:37 UTC

I'm glad we agree

2020-03-26 19:20:41 UTC

yes you are right

2020-03-26 19:20:57 UTC

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2020-03-26 19:21:27 UTC

No, please. I want you to prove me wrong

2020-03-26 19:21:55 UTC

Dunning kruger effect meme

2020-03-27 02:04:41 UTC

2020-03-29 22:51:38 UTC

Eternal happiness is being with loved ones

2020-04-01 11:24:07 UTC

I believe in the ancient godd ctulhu who we are all slave to his majesty

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