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Bruh
But Adam and Eve were both white, so how the heck were black people made
depends on the stage of the fetus (also murder is the *unlawful* killing of a person so it would be manslaughter not murder)
Or Asians
i have already told you how @Mr. Meatball
Thats a very good question i cannot answer
No you havenโt
@Mr. Meatball but how do we know they were white?
Well if they werenโt white there are still way more races that just 2 people couldnโt produce
The โhistory is all fakeโ crowd tend to have an agenda as well. Sure history is written by the winners, but they didnโt put millions of balls of 98% pure sulfur (which canโt occur in nature) along the Dead Sea where the five cities were located.
According to Abraham it rained fire and sulfur against those 5 cities and turned them into ash (calcium carbonate).
Pure sulfur isnโt natural.
You get 38-40% sulfur from volcanic activity.
https://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2008/05/Sodom-and-Gomorrah-Is-There-Evidence-for-Their-Destruction.aspx
http://godasmywitness.com/have-the-ruins-of-sodom-and-gomorrah-been-found/
https://youtu.be/eI34BVEXhJc
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/335401793620017152/486135563322392576/image0.jpg
Remember pregnancy is never perfect
Itโs from the ruins of ghomorrah.
The walls were a limestone concrete. They were heated to a point where theyโre were baked into calcium phosphate.
And thereโs no volcanic activity there.
Which is why people who have this really profane understanding of โwhat the Bible really meansโ when you can go here yourself and see the ruins.
Also if the Adam and Eve story is true, that makes us all ret*rd babies
I donโt know if Iโll get warned again for swearing so I censored myself
The Saudi authorities have this entire area cordoned off. They donโt patrol it but youโre not allowed to go there.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484538352574529557/486418441956229120/image0-9-1-1.jpg
but gohmorrah is thought to be in Syria, which did have volcanic activity during the Bronze Age
Itโs named Mt Sinai.
It was named that maybe a century ago.
This is Jabal al Lawz. Which was the name and still is the name of the real location.
Iโm assuming they changed the location to keep away the curious.
I donโt know for sure but into looks pretty damn literal to me.
Below... it is the real mt Sinai with black, heated rock at the top.
These drawings are all over that rock. And itโs in the valley with the real mt Sinai.
The valley with the altar to the golden calf. I think these qualify as โprimary source observationโ
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458199261637771264/494315305947103263/image0-24.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458199261637771264/494315306651615254/image0-11.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458199261637771264/494315307297406976/image0-25.jpg
Ron Wyatt found the Ark in turkey (not ON mt Ararat). Heโs also the guy who found this region which was already slightly patrolled.
Well he didnโt find the ark. But heโs he first person to lead an expedition to shoot X-rays into the ground to figure out what it was.
The charlatans in the mainstream creationism community claim the ark is on mt Ararat and also that mt Sinai is in the Sinai National Park. Thatโs why I view the mainstream creationism groups as controlled opposition like Flat Earth Society.
Ararat is of course in the distance from this object. But the Bible says it landed in the region OF Ararat not ON Ararat.
This is my single greatest criticism of the ppl who says history is totally faked by the Vatican.
1) thatโs an unprovable assumption
2) I have evidence of history from accidental confirmation (high altitude photography)
3) I have evidence of history from explorative confirmation (piecing together biblical writings to find the five cities which were exactly where it said they would be) It also attributes more power to the church than they actually have. But theyโd love for everyone to think they have hat kind of power.
Same with governments. Strongest flood evidence is geology, polystrata fossils etc. The entire Eastern USA was a lake that drained through the Grand Canyon. We are seeing proof!This is pretty good primary evidence.This isnโt some made up Greek writing stuff down in a dusty hall. This is archeological remains.Which werenโt discovered until the 1940s.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484538352574529557/486419611638562816/image0-20-1.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484538352574529557/486419611638562819/image0-18-1.jpg
heres my source if you want it
well its above the last comment but its pretty big
Yes?
Nobody is perfect due to their mistake
It makes more sense than humans evolving
Because if so why wouldent we see it more
And saying the thing died out is a lame excuse
racial evolution makes sense to me
What, no it doesnโt
Not you Josh
Racial evolution does make sense
I cannot imagine life without evolution
I can
It makes sense
I think that Jesus was a real person but he was not the son of god
Adam and eve sin
Get kicked out of the garden
Start life
Flood takes everyone beside 2
They make more babies
Thereโs no proof of Adam and Eve though
I think there is
my problem with the creationist theory is the 6000 years old thing cause that makes no sense
I think that the most likely explanation for human life is that there is a god, but itโs not the Christian god or any other god people on earth have heard of
Itโs just some random god who decided to make us one day
Well there have been people who have died and went to heaven but got sent back
Good book btw
Yeah but other people have died and not remembered anything but darkness until they are brought back
They say it felt disgusting
Called going to hell mg
Everyone goes to heaven
And after judgement they either stay or get sent down
Hell is fire and torture
Yup
Crud I forgot
Dm
I can say it without swearing
If god really does send people to hell just for being atheist, then heโs a huge jerk
No
No
yes
You need to accept god into your heart
Its their choice
some people never learn about christianity
He gives you a chance to accept him
so that makes no sense
When the 2nd coming happens everyone will have chance after chance to accept him before judgement
I think that if the christian God is the real one, good people go to heaven even if they arent christian, like gandhi
If youโre an amazing person that has done nothing wrong but just didnโt believe in him because there wasnโt any proof and you go to hell for it, thatโs a terrible thing for a god to do to someone
Wether your perfect or not we all sinned
Remember dude
We were born from adam and eve
We arent our own species
what
thats stupid
If I go to hell because I donโt believe in the Christian god, Iโm going to go to satan and make a deal with him to take over heaven and become best bros
@Mr. Meatball just like someone bullying your sister, you give them many chances to stop and they dont so you kick their as
Is that being a jerk?
@Mr. Meatball uh the devil is being destroyed
Thatโs different to not believing in someone because there isnโt any proof of them
No, heโs still alive and well
im gonna shoot a basketball through gods halo
Satan currently dwells in hell
I know
After jesus comes back satan is being destoryed
He already has
He was the most beautiful angel their was
But he rebelled god
Jesus was real but he was not the son of god, and he stayed dead
And all he wants is for people to betray god
thomas is a muslim
@Mr. Meatball bruh he died and was resurrected
I would too if god was that much of a jerk
**HOW**
Because he was by god
Who is Thomas?
In the bible it talks about how the stone was rolled away from the tomb
Now i gotta get a shower
Its been a good debate
Gg
Bye bye
In both creation and evolution theories, there is a big question: What started it all? What caused God to exist, and what caused the big bang to occur
I do not know personally (nobody does) but the evolutionary theory is useful as a tool to predict what will and has happened on earth, so I'm sticking with it
Exactly
Youโre completely right
Gay
Produce shows how we have used evolution for the betterment of society
yea the real question is what is the mechanism of action of evolution
The Remains Of Sodom & Gomorrah Found By Ron Wyatt. God Left The Evidence For Us All To See. https://youtu.be/A_EiCvsK3KE
I've got doubts
then you better resolve them soon
pope said evo is real lol
lol
So uh why did god give whales pelvic bones
why is structural element that is similar to another one but serves a similar purpose and does the job efficiently there.
Please somebody give me a somehow valid reason that evolution doesnโt exist
I want to argue
That article was stupid
How do you know the age of the fossils?
by which rock layer we find them in
How do you know the age of the rock layer?
by which fossils we find in them
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paleontology
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am I missing one ?
@MelonWelon where's the scientific proof for evolution? It's obvious adaptation happens but a complete change from one species to another is not proven scientifically.
We have heaps of evidence for speciation (micro- and macroevolution); from the lab and the wild, embryology, hybridisation, morphology, fossil records, dna analysis, chromosomal changes...
Speciation is microevolution. not macroevolution. for which we have no evidence. we've never observed a bird produce a non-bird.
Macroevolution starts with speciation. It's hard to draw the line between micro and macro. Macro is basically an accumulation of micro over time
There is no scientific evidence to support that. it's an opinion
and you know it
I can send you a list of scientific peer reviewed papers on it, if you're interested?
only if they contain repeatable experiments where a bird turns into a non-bird. if it's paleontology data it's useless. it tells you nothing because it's not science. they cannot apply the scientific method. one has to dream up a story to explain it. science: directly observable, testable, repeatable, and falsifiable. if your papers meet those critieria then please attach the links. if not, you may as well print them out and use them for toilet paper
"Where a bird turns into a non-bird". Yea, that's not how science works. I believe you're talking about magic.. Palaeontology and palaeoecology are not useless, but ok, I mean, palaeontology is a scientific field after all. Try again
You want empirical evidence? Sure thing, here you go. Four links to start you off https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/ele.12460, https://nph.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/nph.12374, https://www.pnas.org/content/116/27/13440, https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/37/1/183/5570178
all microevolution (speciation/adaptation)
as expected
bcs macroevolution is impossible
paleontology is not a scientific field. they cannot apply the scientific method. they look at fossils
a fossil can't even tell you that if that organism even reproduced...
You didn't seem to read what I said, so let me repeat (no worries mate, you're good). Micro describes mechanisms that alter the frequencies of alleles (within species), yea? Macro describes patterns at a grand scale across vast time periods. The only difference is the timescale involved. Cool? Btw, what do you mean by "they cannot apply the scientific method"?
what am i supposed to get from this?
@Flat Earth PhD the fact that the fossil is there means it's parents reproduced at one point smh.... The study of fossils proves evolution
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