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@Mr.J it really be like that sometimes

You guys are too one sided to have a proper debtae

debate*

this should be some sort of ranting corner

your not producing debatable things your asking for views/points

Which then can be debated

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exactly its not our short coming that stops anybody from picking apart any/every word we talk about ; its his lack of critical thinking and/or background knowledge to be able to product debateable points to talk about

Bilbo has to understand how you frame stuff before they can debate

It is true

I just came here

Frodo I mean

bilbo 🤔

@Samwise what systems of expression in your mind produce reality?

( I should say what alternative systems have you entertained the thought of)

Sorry I dont know the full lore of Game of Thrones for babies and I got the name wrong @Satan

@Samwise I say you believe in the wrong thing because belief or faith in Science or yourself will not reconcile you back to GOD or take care of the evident evil and sin problem of humanity. Quite honestly, you can not hear me nor do you want to. I know that am nothing without CHRIST. My only hope is in HIM. I want others to have a relationship with their CREATOR, it is as simple as that.

The difference between faith in God and in science is that the evidence for science can be wrong and can be improved upon and verified. The Bible as of now is unverifiable

I like you nat

I would enjoy further conversations but I have to run.

sayonara

we all like nat

Have good day, feel free to hit us up if you want to continue

yeah

take a breather

I mean not everyone

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shh

@I-VaPE-ChEMtrAiLS @Samwise prove to me how Science can make people less evil?

science is like a knife

you can use it to cut

or kill someones

someone*

its how you use it

just like religion

you were using it to attack me

Science is a tool, it itself can be baised but it's because of science that we don't treat black people as a different species to white people removing a lot of stigma and removing a number of arguments for racism @Deleted User

Lol @Samwise Yes I used "Religion" to "attack" you baaahhaaa lol

However you are correct to assume that it's not an all knowing impartial force

It's made by people and therefore has issues, but none that we are able to combat

Nat

you are making sense

Sometimes I stop shitposting

it gets the best of us

dont worry

unless you get vommited upon

the i suggest rain wear

Yeah I just didn't have much to say before that question, I don't really know much about religion.

Neither do I

But I am proud of my culture

its interesting

but science is correct

What's your culture?

One of the oldest

Science is the best tool, it however isn't perfect and it is wrong to say it is always correct

Mayan?

exactly

yes i am mayan

😂

Got it in one easy

I am a Hindu

oooof

but not crazy religous

how dare you

you should be telling us we're all wrong :^)

no

I am not perfect

to say that you are wrong

banned

bite me

👀

Fluff leave Frodo alone

banned

😂

frodo is fren

I am indeed

Having imperfections is part of human nature

nah

im perfect

smd

by making decisions for others with that

well its dumb

oh yeah I have seen the fluff

its perfect

fluffy in all the right places

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😂

😂

I don't think this is religous debate

Fuck that sounds so bad

Yeah

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yup

before we get mobbed and burned

Hm

!clear

Fluff, it doesn't look like you can use that. <:SMILESWEAT6:403540174069432320>

🚫 **This channel cannot be used for music commands.**

Welp

😂

Rip

what did you do

If we say something edgy about religion we can pretend this was all a debate

I was attempting to clear msges that do not belong here

Religion = sometimes bad

ahh

good thinking

satan took over me just now

when we were discussing fluff

I don't know if mockery is a good idea

but renegade for life

!rank

Sam5FrodoB, this command is disabled in this channel. <:SMILESWEAT6:403540174069432320>

@Samwise <#484515816625274891>

ah

Friendly reminder. No profanity in this channel. Religious debate only. Atheists welcome. Keep it respectful and civil.

Thank you 😀

I was curious to find out what your belief systems are. It helps me to know where people are coming from.

I'm too tired to debate

No need to debate

Just inform of what you think @Samwise

No literally I can't think

lol

Been working nightshift

Still got some time before home

Alright, z

What? =)

@Satan

The no profanity thing

Oh nevermind

😂

Lol.its ok

@Satan im mean mod huh?

No it was a reasonable request @Citizen Z

Fair request

Well hello my new crazy friends

Hello

How're you guys today?👌

Frodo

Hi fluff

I'm well rested and stuff

Like I'm at hundred percent

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i mean, the very idea is kinda stupid. The Jews wanted to flee the pharoh. So they moved from the Nile, controlled by egypt, to palistine, controlled by egypt.

there were guys with swords and chariots chasing them. so they went to some water for moses to split the water and they went across

im sure u prob knew that

yeah, into an area Still controlled by egypt

they didnt just stand on the other side waving

Palistine was controlled by egypt

moses was leading them to a promise land but moses hit the rock so he couldnt go

i know what the bible says, i am saying it makes no sense

so the wandered around in the desert

and there is no backing for it

i really dont understand what info ur asking for

do you have any evidence, besides the bible. that the exodus actually happened

theres chariot pieces at the bottom of the red sea

u can find all this information with a google search

https://worldnewsdailyreport.com/red-sea-archaeologists-discover-remains-of-egyptian-army-from-the-biblical-exodus/ this?

nice article

u found that fast

scroll all the way down and read whats at the bottom of the screen

in the comments?

no

Ooooof

"World News Daily Report assumes all responsibility for the satirical nature of its articles and for the fictional nature of their content. All characters appearing in the articles in this website – even those based on real people – are entirely fictional and any resemblance between them and any person, living, dead or undead, is purely a miracle."

it was a hoax

thats nice, that doesnt mean every site talking about it is fake

is that called cherrypicking your data?

you did pretty good

if youre searching for the truth, keep asking those hard questions

someone will have an answer for you

if you want to use some coral growths in the red sea as your only backing verus modern archeology, go for it

you asked for other proff outside the bible, and i dont usually argue from outside the bible

so youre making a strawman

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He asked if you can prove it without the Bible, all you had to do was say no

i told him about chariots at the bottom of the red sea

he chose to dismiss that which is okay

I thought this was a one on one debate Fluff

*because it has been disproven as simple coral growths*

I'm just saying this wasn't a strawman

@Soldz (CF) nah

No double teaming

No debate is one on one in any debate channels

the strawman was asking for proof outside the bible then trying to destroy the proof given

anything not found in the bible is open to corruption

i dont like leaving the safety of the bible

Damn the bias

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When you put it that way it sounds pretty bad

yeah, cause the bible has never been interpreted differently by anyone

or translated differntly

the bible is the same message

gods word is alive and active bro

the words can have different meaning

Actually brother of the church I disagree

if i can change the meaning of a word, that is corruption of it

If everyone sees the message different then there is no right or wrong

the holy spirit is able to teach different things from the same scripture

lol wat

Then whats the point

Bible can't be corrupted but everything else outside of it can

Gotcha

like, i can use the bible to support slavery, but i can also use it to condone slavery

The holy spirit is running everyone up the wall then

the bible doesnt condone slavery

Yikes

i didnt say it did

i said you can use it to condone slavery

He isnt wrong

Everyone has a different point of view on the message

Apparently

He's correct the Bible even gives instructions on how to punish slaves

if the holy spirit leads you to believe something, it should line up with the entire bible

people who owned slaves and abolitionist both used the bible as support for their view

[Judges 21:25]

clearly one of them is wrong

Wrong one

the bible says if youre a slave, be a good slave

[Proverbs 21:2]

but if freedom is possible, seek it

ok, freedom wasnt possible for american slaves

you know about american slaves do you?

a decent amount

did you know more white people died to free black slaves than there were black slaves total in america

and whites were slaves

christians

ooo boi

i was waiting for that

wait no longer =]

a) your first fact is an out right lie

Whites were slaves?

prove it, go back to history

about 400,000-500,000 slaves were BROUGHT from africa

And you call yourself a christian

Oof goddamn

yes whites were slaves

Racist garbage

then a couple hundred thousand more were born in the US

You cant handle the truth

its ok its part of healing

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ok, yes whites were slaves in some parts of the world, mainly in the mediteranian world

Nice shifting the goalpost though

but the scale was much smaller

i didnt shift a goal post, someone mentioned slaves in america