flat-earth

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2019-11-12 12:16:33 UTC

zero evidence on your side

2019-11-12 12:16:37 UTC

zero!!!

2019-11-12 12:16:39 UTC

none

2019-11-12 12:16:41 UTC

nada

2019-11-12 12:16:42 UTC

zip

2019-11-12 12:16:44 UTC

nil

2019-11-12 12:16:47 UTC

nothing as proof

2019-11-12 12:17:14 UTC

<a:PepeCoffee:634141178056671262>

2019-11-12 12:17:19 UTC

but keep patting yourself on the back! keep telling yourself you're right

2019-11-12 13:34:02 UTC

!mute @Tae

2019-11-12 13:34:02 UTC

2019-11-12 13:34:15 UTC

Troll.

2019-11-12 13:34:58 UTC

"South*StarToday at 2:32 AM
If earth is flat, than earth Chan has flat chest"

2019-11-12 13:35:40 UTC

Ye Ik him. Heโ€™s a lil troll. I told em he was gonna get muted if he said stuff like that

2019-11-12 13:36:12 UTC

Well hopefully he learns.

2019-11-12 16:14:51 UTC

https://youtu.be/_t-iCK1vqCc
No further questions.

2019-11-12 17:06:50 UTC

@oh hi mark 1 minute in the video and shes saying circumnavigation is not possible on flat earth which is false. Condemnation without investigation once again.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/643859262665130034/globe900.png

2019-11-12 17:33:00 UTC

@CryptoCypher we can test this ourselves if you want to

2019-11-12 17:34:14 UTC

Also, Iโ€™d still like to hear the mechanism behind objects accelerating downwards

2019-11-12 17:34:29 UTC

Something other than โ€œThats just how it isโ€

2019-11-12 17:37:22 UTC

@Say nice idea, but... just show proof of curvature and proof of rotation. there's plenty of explanations for the observation, commonly referred to as "gravity" you've likely already heard and dismissed them already because you so desperately want to hold on tightly to your precious globe model, with no real reasoning other than "but scientist xyz told me or NASA this or Neil Degrasse Tyson that" If you're not going to respond with proof of the things I'm asking for "curvature" or "rotation" I have no real interest in this conversation!

2019-11-12 17:38:16 UTC

Relax mate, I wouldnโ€™t be here if I didnโ€™t want a conversation

2019-11-12 17:41:15 UTC

Hereโ€™s a relatively simple proof for curvature: put a stick in the ground. At noon, measure the angle at which the shadow from the sun makes. Then, have a friend or someone else a few degrees north/south do the same. On a flat earth, the angle should be different than what they would be on a curved earth

2019-11-12 17:41:26 UTC

oh sticks LMAO

2019-11-12 17:41:29 UTC

hahaha

2019-11-12 17:41:31 UTC

Also, you do need a force to explain the acceleration of objects

2019-11-12 17:41:36 UTC

No sticks prove nothing

2019-11-12 17:41:40 UTC

Why

2019-11-12 17:41:56 UTC

come on, provide a better one than the sticks BS

2019-11-12 17:42:32 UTC

Why do you need a force

2019-11-12 17:42:38 UTC

Do you want to have an actual conversation? Or are you going to continue acting like that

2019-11-12 17:42:48 UTC

You just want it?

2019-11-12 17:42:57 UTC

You need a force because things donโ€™t accelerate without a net force

2019-11-12 17:42:59 UTC

well... do you have a better "proof" than sticks?

2019-11-12 17:43:18 UTC

No, itโ€™s just how it works. The acceleration of objects necessitates a net force

2019-11-12 17:43:56 UTC

Crypto, stop arguing dishonestly. I presented a proof. Accept it or reject it and give your reasoning

2019-11-12 17:44:34 UTC

No! the sticks thing is not proof! this is not me being dishonest, it's me being realistic. Those sticks prove nothing

2019-11-12 17:44:49 UTC

Explain why itโ€™s not proof

2019-11-12 17:46:18 UTC

because you're just parroting the same BS you heard from one of your leaders! come on man, use some real logical reasoning here. we've heard the sticks stuff before, many times, it's utter nonsense. Now, are you going to provide real proof, or do you really want to argue about sticks? cos honestly, it's pathetic

2019-11-12 17:46:40 UTC

Im not just repeating it. I understand the math behind it.

2019-11-12 17:46:44 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/643869303225057301/15045110.jpg

2019-11-12 17:47:22 UTC

How far away is your sun in your model?

2019-11-12 17:47:32 UTC

we don't have a model

2019-11-12 17:47:38 UTC

I dont have a model for how far the sun is

2019-11-12 17:47:51 UTC

They believe it's much closer than the globe earth sun.

2019-11-12 17:47:54 UTC

It looks pretty close

2019-11-12 17:48:02 UTC

Feels close

2019-11-12 17:48:08 UTC

Intuition is misleading

2019-11-12 17:48:13 UTC

Doesnt feel 93 million miles away

2019-11-12 17:48:25 UTC

Again, intuition is misleading

2019-11-12 17:48:32 UTC

looks close, feels close and just like the globe model, nobody has ever actually measured the distance, because nobody can

2019-11-12 17:48:51 UTC

If psychology has taught us anything, itโ€™s that we shouldnโ€™t trust our senses

2019-11-12 17:49:03 UTC

We have measured the distance

2019-11-12 17:49:11 UTC

They say the suns surface is 10000 degrees. You think the heat from 10 self cleaning ovens travels 93 million miles and heats u up?

2019-11-12 17:49:22 UTC

Lol

2019-11-12 17:49:28 UTC

You measured the distance?

2019-11-12 17:49:34 UTC

Hows that?

2019-11-12 17:49:35 UTC

we haven't! to measure the distance we either need to know the size, or the distance, we don't know the distance without knowing the size! do you see the predicament?

2019-11-12 17:49:47 UTC

Parallexes

2019-11-12 17:49:49 UTC

What assumptions did you use to measure ?

2019-11-12 17:49:56 UTC

Lol

2019-11-12 17:50:11 UTC

You dont need to know the size of the sun to measure the distance lol

2019-11-12 17:50:24 UTC

of course you do

2019-11-12 17:50:29 UTC

Why...?

2019-11-12 17:50:46 UTC

because if you know the size, you can calculate the distance!

2019-11-12 17:50:56 UTC

Crypto, can i ask, whats the highest level of math youโ€™ve taken?

2019-11-12 17:51:14 UTC

it doesn't matter what my level of indoctrination is, it's irrelevant

2019-11-12 17:51:24 UTC

Math isnโ€™t indoctrination...

2019-11-12 17:51:39 UTC

whatever, we'll agree to disagree

2019-11-12 17:52:02 UTC

Thatโ€™s a ridiculous assertion though. Math is self-evidently true

2019-11-12 17:52:13 UTC

Ok literally look at flat earth ocean currents.

2019-11-12 17:52:25 UTC

It's pretty clear voyages in the exploration age just followed the currents in a huge circle.

2019-11-12 17:52:43 UTC

They didn't just sail straight and they hardly had the technology to do much else aside from following the wind and ocean currents.

2019-11-12 17:52:51 UTC

but maths alone isn't proof of a lot, it can verify things, sure. But maths can't tell me what you had for dinner yesterday or what time you emptied your bladder

2019-11-12 17:53:33 UTC

Sure, but thatโ€™s not the purpose of math

2019-11-12 17:53:43 UTC

We can use math to measure distances and angles

2019-11-12 17:55:13 UTC

maths is just another language, used as a way to explain things that words alone can't always convey. But back to the point, maths alone is not enough to tell you this world is a globe. You need other things too. so, are we going to get back to you providing proof for curvature or rotation? or is this just going to be another pointless conversation, another opportunity for a globe supporter to think they're right, so they can massage their ego?

2019-11-12 17:55:50 UTC

Be back later, calc class is starting

2019-11-12 17:55:57 UTC

LMAO

2019-11-12 17:58:02 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/643872148372455435/EJLokCxW4AYSGeC-1.jpg

2019-11-12 17:58:22 UTC

@๐ŸŽƒOakheart๐ŸŽƒ not only that, but sailors have used sextants for a very long time, navigating by the stars, to this day, sailors can use those same star charts used back then, confirming the stars haven't changed

2019-11-12 18:09:20 UTC

oops

2019-11-12 18:32:48 UTC

Thatโ€™s just not true, only general shapes and positions are the same for some stars

2019-11-12 18:34:00 UTC

Some constellations are completely gone

2019-11-12 18:34:11 UTC

My favorite is Argos Bc boats are cool

2019-11-12 18:42:38 UTC

The big dipper can be seen all year

2019-11-12 18:50:08 UTC

The Big Dipper, especially Polaris, is near our axis of rotation

2019-11-12 18:51:54 UTC

Based on time of year, certain stars/constellations take certain positions in the sky

2019-11-12 19:16:36 UTC

The big dipper shows the season.

2019-11-12 19:16:51 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/643891981780779050/big20dipper20swastika.png

2019-11-12 19:22:29 UTC

You've been decieved.

2019-11-12 19:22:39 UTC

By NASA

2019-11-12 19:22:39 UTC

Polaris is A PART OF the Big Dipper

2019-11-12 19:22:47 UTC

no...

2019-11-12 19:23:22 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/643893620822245407/3d0c8a4ec7362a58c7aa9079c7cac4da.jpg

2019-11-12 19:23:24 UTC

Yes it is

2019-11-12 19:23:30 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/643893654523478019/5abc3e973d2b8c2a2acbf0b9a892534f.jpg

2019-11-12 19:23:40 UTC

Thats not possible on a globe.

2019-11-12 19:23:43 UTC

Itโ€™s at the end

2019-11-12 19:24:06 UTC

Itโ€™s rotating as the earthโ€™s position changes, how is that not possible?

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