@Say nice idea, but... just show proof of curvature and proof of rotation. there's plenty of explanations for the observation, commonly referred to as "gravity" you've likely already heard and dismissed them already because you so desperately want to hold on tightly to your precious globe model, with no real reasoning other than "but scientist xyz told me or NASA this or Neil Degrasse Tyson that" If you're not going to respond with proof of the things I'm asking for "curvature" or "rotation" I have no real interest in this conversation!

Relax mate, I wouldn’t be here if I didn’t want a conversation

Here’s a relatively simple proof for curvature: put a stick in the ground. At noon, measure the angle at which the shadow from the sun makes. Then, have a friend or someone else a few degrees north/south do the same. On a flat earth, the angle should be different than what they would be on a curved earth

oh sticks LMAO

hahaha

Also, you do need a force to explain the acceleration of objects

No sticks prove nothing

Why

come on, provide a better one than the sticks BS

Why do you need a force

Do you want to have an actual conversation? Or are you going to continue acting like that

You just want it?

You need a force because things don’t accelerate without a net force

well... do you have a better "proof" than sticks?

No, it’s just how it works. The acceleration of objects necessitates a net force

Crypto, stop arguing dishonestly. I presented a proof. Accept it or reject it and give your reasoning

No! the sticks thing is not proof! this is not me being dishonest, it's me being realistic. Those sticks prove nothing

Explain why it’s not proof

because you're just parroting the same BS you heard from one of your leaders! come on man, use some real logical reasoning here. we've heard the sticks stuff before, many times, it's utter nonsense. Now, are you going to provide real proof, or do you really want to argue about sticks? cos honestly, it's pathetic

Im not just repeating it. I understand the math behind it.

How far away is your sun in your model?

we don't have a model

I dont have a model for how far the sun is

They believe it's much closer than the globe earth sun.

It looks pretty close

Feels close

Intuition is misleading

Doesnt feel 93 million miles away

Again, intuition is misleading

looks close, feels close and just like the globe model, nobody has ever actually measured the distance, because nobody can

If psychology has taught us anything, it’s that we shouldn’t trust our senses

We have measured the distance

They say the suns surface is 10000 degrees. You think the heat from 10 self cleaning ovens travels 93 million miles and heats u up?

Lol

You measured the distance?

Hows that?

we haven't! to measure the distance we either need to know the size, or the distance, we don't know the distance without knowing the size! do you see the predicament?

Parallexes

What assumptions did you use to measure ?

Lol