that is also not proof of CGI in 1969

Official nasa pics

Ok so what is your point!

Well you don’t have proof it’s not

Official nasa pics are obviously cgi

And moon landing was faked

That’s a known fact

Even if you insist in believing they landed on the moon, in no way is the footage real

1 + 1 = 10 you don't have proof its not :huehuehue:

EVIDENCE

So your only evidence is a cgi picture how scientific

https://tenor.com/view/lord-help-me-judge-judy-facepalm-gif-12371798

Prove to me that it was CGI

your being an intellectual coward, citation needed

that CGI of that quality existed

You have to prove it first

You made the claim it’s a real picture

your making the claim it was fake

Explain why pictures of earth look so different

No

Prove to me CGI existed in 1969 of that quality

Prove to me they could get to the moon in 1969😂😂 they clearly don’t have that technology today

Yes they do they don't have the funding we go to the moon all the time today even india and china have gone. We just don't have the budget for human exploration or the national interest or infrastructure. your being intellectually dishonest it is not a problem of technology it is a problem of lack of means to get there because we don't have the same political and economic situtation of 1969

That makes no sense. First of all even nasa admitted that it doesn’t have the technology anymore ( it destroyed it)

No they didn't

show me this

Second of all it admitted that passing the radiation belts is impossible right now

No it didn't

oh gosh your going to link me that orion video arn't you

Okay 1 sec

https://tenor.com/view/kms-gif-4481205

idk why this guy is, and the context so

the full clip and context please

not your "Muh Earth Flat" meme

Theres more theories about that. For one example. They have seen ufo-building/aliens on moon and it is top secret (source: steven greer exposed it, hes in connection to hundreds of ex-high officials/gov employ. because he is like a representative for whistleblowers)

that is not an offical statement

excuse me for bad english

No that’s your part of the research

it is one enginner most likley speaking off the cuff at best

No it isn't?

For all I know that guy is a flat earther

@IXI are you getting it or no

chief anything to say beside a silly emote?

Wait not him

Donald Roy Pettit is an American chemical engineer and a NASA astronaut. He is a veteran of two long-duration stays aboard the International Space Station, one space shuttle mission and a six-week expedition to find meteorites in Antarctica. As of 2018, at age 64, he is NASA's oldest active astronaut. W

@Dizaster I want sources

Actually him

Ok so, let me explain the issue to you since you don't get it

hmm i recently watched like 10h+ material of him, lectures, interview, documentary. im just sharing a possibility and since he is relatively the most credible on his field. i just would say. do ur research

@Chief Rocket Designer

https://newspunch.com/moon-rock-nasa-holland-fake/

if u want to know more about it. it is a possibility you can dive into, instead of saying. that we never went to moon.

Idc about your alien conspiracies

i assume u would like to research every other possibility aswell

pardon me, we are talking about the moon @IXI

You believe they go to the moon to connect with UFO or wtv

please dont put words in my mouth

Doesn’t interest me

i wont defend myself on things i never said 🤣 please take a course in reading and connecting the dots

earth is round

Maybe it is, like a pizza

spherical

```do ur research``` You assume I havn't I suggest you do research promoting our positions as well.

The Apollo Space craft requires infrastructure to launch, IBM computers from that era, and all the right materials in the right order will billions of dollars to build this infrastructure let alone the rocket itself. NASA right now is basically the lead of the ISS When it comes to sustaining that platform, we also have a ton of infrastructure and mission probes which also cost millios of dollars. In 1970-1980 we replaced the Apollo Hardware with the updated space shuttle hardware, the space shuttle was mean't to go to LEO only so not the moon. Going back to apollo would not be worth it because we can do everything cheaper with new materials now? Why are we not doing this you ask? We are, but slowly, NASA is preparing for the first launch of the SLS within a year or two I think so. We are going back. However we don't have the 50 billion dollars (adj) we had in 1969. We have about 19 Billion today. So we are doing more than we did in those eras internationally and in deep space and still trying to go to the moon with less money. We did not "destroy" that technology we removed the ability to use it because we replaced it. In the same way you replace your phone, you don't destroy your phone you replace it. That does not mean that your phone has backward compatailty. It does not mean that you should get an older phone when you can just wait and get a better phone.

@IXI

@Dizaster

Yo

<#484516084846952451>

What

I could build that junk in my backyard

Move to the <#484516084846952451> channel

Not going back to the Moon was mostly about politics but also not enough funding as a result

Okay

The Artemis program is set to launch in 2020

What's the subject anyways?

Just some people are already talking on that channel

Moon landing

@floridaswamptrash why

it says don't debate it there

Ah

in the descirption

Nevermind then

By 2024 we will be back in the Moon

On

oh lort here we go

^ yes

What’s infrastructure is so hard about this

@Chief Rocket Designer I bet you they'll cancel it just like they did with the other more recent moon landing

@IXI barges, planes factories enginners laborers, machine labor, etc etc

if you think the moon landing was faked your delusional

@floridaswamptrash I doubt it if your refering to the Constellation progam

Nope they won’t cancel it

Considering how all the technology progressed in 50 years why is nasa so backward

They’re trying to put the first woman on the Moon

because they are a government agency

you really should do research on what was capable back then and what you could actually do.

what ledgic said

guysa nsa is on to this

server

🤔

Because after the Space Race, public interest regarding space exploration dropped considerably

im telling u

@Sassy Undeniably show me evidence else bye

dont be surprised if u notice some changes or ur devices

You'd have to prove the moon landing was real in the first place

I just showed you evidence you dismiss it for no reason

they collecting data and are sending it to a newly made agency

wasn't talking to you and you first

and we have

At least the first official one they claimed to be real

@IXI I explained what happened

They could conceiveably have had the money to go back but they spent a fair share of it on the construction of the ISS

evidence can be debunked

astronots to the moon not

Your explanation is invalid and makes no sense

I am sorry that your illiterate

we went to the moon

There is plenty of evidence

^

oh and they are so smart the destroyed all the evidence that got them there and oh yeah we can't go back because we have never been

In fact, rocks we brought back helped support the Giant Impact Hypothesis

various other nations have photographed the apollo sites

your delusional @Sassy Undeniably

no sorry

What giant impact

The rocks are proven to be from earth

Petrified wood

Everyone saw the Saturn 5 locket launch lol

There are warehouses full of blueprints for various space shuttles

How can that be faked

@IXI how stupid do you think NASA is?

What ever happened to the technology they used to get to the moon the first time? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_sazQnHKTM

Very stupid

It would be harder to fake a Moon landing than actually going to the Moon

400,000 people worked for the first moon landing, so how come nobody has spoken out about

it

@floridaswamptrash I just explained that

@Chief Rocket Designer Go ahead dude

I'll entertain your explanation

@floridaswamptrash The Apollo Space craft requires infrastructure to launch, IBM computers from that era, and all the right materials in the right order will billions of dollars to build this infrastructure let alone the rocket itself. NASA right now is basically the lead of the ISS When it comes to sustaining that platform, we also have a ton of infrastructure and mission probes which also cost millios of dollars. In 1970-1980 we replaced the Apollo Hardware with the updated space shuttle hardware, the space shuttle was mean't to go to LEO only so not the moon. Going back to apollo would not be worth it because we can do everything cheaper with new materials now? Why are we not doing this you ask? We are, but slowly, NASA is preparing for the first launch of the SLS within a year or two I think so. We are going back. However we don't have the 50 billion dollars (adj) we had in 1969. We have about 19 Billion today. So we are doing more than we did in those eras internationally and in deep space and still trying to go to the moon with less money. We did not "destroy" that technology we removed the ability to use it because we replaced it. In the same way you replace your phone, you don't destroy your phone you replace it. That does not mean that your phone has backward compatailty. It does not mean that you should get an older phone when you can just wait and get a better phone.

It is reality that it never happened and you ignore the fact that they have said they never went so you can keep fantasizing and hypothesizing all the while maintaining your delusions. Keep the name calling out of it and attack the info not me because you don't want me to put my sassy pants on.

That’s not it

Or maybe that’s part of it too, but mostly

if it was faked to win the space race, why would the ussr allow the US to do such a thing

Public interest dropped so low that the government responded by also moving onto to other things

Space race is a joke

21:18] l.caudri: if it was faked to win the space race---false premise

It may have started out as a weird competition but it ultimately expanded our knowledge of the Earth and Moon considerably

@Chief Rocket Designer So what is that explaining exactly? All I see is that they started to replace the parts so they wouldn't be able to use it without getting more money

@floridaswamptrash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11_missing_tapes
This has to do with the missing video tapes not telementary data

Essentially it was destroyed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrO7eHKNTUU&t=252s

The technology is also obsolete too but only because so much time has passed since it’s been improve upon

@floridaswamptrash basically but that is how technical innovation works

Like nuclear fission reactors

THEY never had the capability that is why they never went so they faked it

It's kind of bad logic to be like "You know what we're going to do? Even though our budget keeps getting cut we're going to start replacing the technology we have that can take us to the moon even if we don't have the money for it." 🤡

I can't believe people would take this and accept it

They spent that money on the construction of the ISS

lol

Which I think is a better call

Nasa progressing backwards since the 1970s

What a lie to believe in

so then you must concede they never went

No it hasn’t been lol

It has just had significantly less funding

@SpiderLedgic (Cancer) If they wanted to use the tech they could have regardless

@floridaswamptrash going to the moon was not that scientifically useful at that time compared to the cost. LEO research was more efficencnt and probes were getting better

Not if it couldn’t get approved

The whole idea now is that because people believe we went to the moon then is the reason they didn't want to go back

You'd have to prove the moon landing in the first place

It already has been proven

it would have been harder to fake the moon landing to actually get to the moon

Just making excuses when there are actual facts of what happened to this day and you just ignore it for what? To hold on to your ball earth. Shitz redic.

😂

@l.caudri Prove it

That’s why it’s exposed, they couldn’t fake it well enough

[21:23] l.caudri: it would have been harder to fake the moon landing to actually get to the moon--lololol ffs that is so ridiculous

Modern day orbiters, like the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, has taken pictures of the Apollo 11 landing site and it is still relatively undisturbed

the computational power in the 60's to replicate the footage would of been basically impossible with the computers used then

Also it should be known that they left lasers on the Moon too so that is also evidence towards it being true

😂

Mirrors*

Imagine thinking you can make something like 2001: Space Odyssey but can't make something like the moon landing

It would have been extremely simple

You are willfully ignorant so how they overcame the speed differential, Van Allen Belt, Fuel creation, Vacuum implosion etc?

to recreate the lighting and all the shadows, you would of needed millions of lasers which were incredibly expensive at the time, as well as the majority of lasers came in red. It was easier just to actually get to the moon than faking everyting with CGI (as cgi wasnt as powerfull enough like it is today)

Dude

@Sassy Undeniably they are not showing the actual footage of them faking anything at all. Just a narrated hit peice, I would want the raw footage uncut unnarrated

```speed differential, Van Allen Belt, Fuel creation, Vacuum implosion``` They did not go throught the Van Allen belts directly they went through the outer edges of them idk what is hard to think with the fuel creation Kerosene and LOX are easy to make. Vacuum implosion im sorry what, and Speed Differential what does that even mean

I've seen this argument a lot but it makes no sense because they did it easily in the movie with lighting

@floridaswamptrash Not with that good camera quality

@l.caudri

looks pretty sh-t to me

🤡

"Dude the lighting wouldn't have worked" gtfo

people literally saw the rocket leave as well <:rocket:625748844998688768>

it wouldn't have

but ok

It must be hard being passionate about rockets all your life to admitting it’s all fake

That doesn't matter either

Rockets are not fake you dumb idiot

Space rockets are

They are the same thing

You can't argue that because we saw the rocket lift off and disappear somewhere that it had to go to space

@IXI Must be hard knowing that you failed all your physics classes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cP-HZqf_LI&list=PLN6UsOvZ1H7_f689ASshBfW7fnD-n77Iz

I was decent with physics

@Sassy Undeniably do you have ANY raw footage?

clearly not if you believe the moon landing was faked and that earth is flat

I have yet to see a good argument yet

Maybe that’s why I’m decent ya physics. I’m actually pretty good with maths

And the math doesn’t add up

u a flat earther

@Chief Rocket Designer stop name calling and if you don't know something it is okay. Secondly go find it your self. It isn't a hit piece when it is coming from your side. Also if you can't answer my questions it just goes to show that one you haven't thought this out logically on your own to start with and second that you believe what you are told because it sounds good.

Yes and I know how curvature is calculated

@Sassy Undeniably Nothing you have said has come from my side

You have muting privileges

Anyways I gtg

I'd just mute him

@IXI what math

What is the derivative of y = x^2

if you were 'decent in physics' you would know that gravity naturally create spherical objects

I'm just here to see what evidence I can get

Lol buddy

There is none

You must think I’m 9 or something

yep

well worse actually

6

a 4 year old can recognise that the earth isnt flat

@IXI what is the derivative of y = x^3

3 x squared

What’s the curvature of the earth?

What does that even mean

@l.caudri A four year old wouldn't be able to understand if it is flat or a globe dude

How much does it curve for a certain distance

And if they had to do the more logical answer they would say the earth is flat

this guy is clearly delusional just like all of the other flat earthers

@IXI what are you even asking

I’m asking you what’s how much does earth curve

Insults after insults

Where are the mods

In a specific distance like a mile for instance

Or a mile squared

0.08 meters in 1 Km but why is this relevant?

im not even being sarcastic , i fail to comprehend how delusional you can be. It is basic facts that the earth is round

@floridaswamptrash it only shows for certain users I don't have that ability for him.