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2019-03-18 23:34:15 UTC

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2019-03-18 23:34:32 UTC

Seriously gtg now. Look it up.

2019-03-18 23:34:40 UTC

@Citizen Z Emojis aren't arguments. Where did you learn appeal to authority is a fallacy?

2019-03-18 23:35:26 UTC

Further, if appeal to authority is a fallacy, then you can't claim to know facts about the eye.

2019-03-18 23:36:39 UTC

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2019-03-18 23:37:08 UTC

Appeal to authority is when you assume that just because someone is an authority they're right

2019-03-18 23:37:31 UTC

Alright, @April has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-03-18 23:38:08 UTC

Authorities can be wrong. That's the whole point of conspiracy theories

2019-03-18 23:39:58 UTC

@April at 7:36 PM
*"Appeal to authority is when you assume that just because someone is an authority they're right"*
And? Citing facts as discovered by the experts is not a fallacy.

2019-03-18 23:41:08 UTC

By default, there's no reason *not to* assume a given authority of a subject matter is wrong about said subject matter. You'd have to prove the authority is wrong.

2019-03-18 23:42:04 UTC

And saying "Oh they're paid by the government." isn't proof of this.

2019-03-18 23:43:07 UTC

Now, if the authority is *invalid*, say taking a layman's opinion and using it as a source, I would agree that's a fallacious argument.

2019-03-18 23:51:13 UTC

I can't post pictures. But at 1000 feet altitude, on a flat earth, we could see about 542.5 miles given our angular resolution, while on the globe, the curvature would stop it at 38.7 miles.
Flat earth simply doesn't match reality.

2019-03-19 00:09:26 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/557354915178217492/image-42-1-1.jpg

2019-03-19 00:09:50 UTC

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2019-03-19 00:10:33 UTC

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2019-03-19 00:11:28 UTC

And you can see the bottom obscured by that curvature

2019-03-19 00:12:47 UTC

Longer distances could be seen due to refractive circumstances

2019-03-19 00:15:14 UTC

<:globiegoggles:485140915149864980>

2019-03-19 03:38:15 UTC

April. You need a wake up call... hospitals are one of the WORST PLACES for catching viruses or worse... even though they help you get well. ITS WHERE SICK PEOPLE GO WITH THIER DISEASE AND VIRUS.. i worked for 6 years in ICU and Cardio care units.. Mersa and worse is there

2019-03-19 03:41:27 UTC

Autism 30 years ago was a 5-6 in a 100 maybe.... today its like over 30 %.. you tell me whats changed... ill tell you.. The MANDATORY VACCINE PROGRAMS

2019-03-19 03:45:27 UTC

Perhaps not the best analogy but you get my point

2019-03-19 03:49:26 UTC

@vazorium it's fallacious to assume an authority is correct simply because they're an authority

2019-03-19 03:50:15 UTC

It's equally as fallacious to assume an independent party is correct simply because they're independent

2019-03-19 03:50:25 UTC

@April Would you represent yourself in court if you were being tried? Or would you have some bum on the street preform an operation upon you if you were injured?

2019-03-19 03:50:57 UTC

I would look at track records for ability

2019-03-19 03:51:12 UTC

@April So the answer to questions one and two are "No.".

2019-03-19 03:51:23 UTC

Thanks for demonstrating my point.

2019-03-19 03:51:34 UTC

If the bum could show he was skilled then sure

2019-03-19 03:51:40 UTC
2019-03-19 03:51:43 UTC

And fwiw I have represented myself in court

2019-03-19 03:51:55 UTC

lmao

2019-03-19 03:52:03 UTC

that didn't go well did it?

2019-03-19 03:52:20 UTC

It actually went perfectly and exactly as I expected

2019-03-19 03:52:43 UTC

I mostly do my own Healthcare too

2019-03-19 03:52:47 UTC

Sure, kid, I really believe someone who won't even pop into VC.

2019-03-19 03:53:01 UTC

I'm mute, hun. Lmap

2019-03-19 03:53:15 UTC

I don't have patience to be typing all night, especially not to a probable liar.

2019-03-19 03:53:19 UTC

Assuming someone is wrong due to a disability is an ad hominem fallacy

2019-03-19 03:53:32 UTC

Typing is faster

2019-03-19 03:53:41 UTC

Alright, @vazorium has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-03-19 03:53:53 UTC

So why want it to take longer?

2019-03-19 03:54:14 UTC

I don't give a sh*t if it's a fallacy or not, buttercup. You're trying my patience with your tall tales and inability to grasp basic concepts.

2019-03-19 03:54:38 UTC

Yeah it's pretty clear you rely on logical fallacies

2019-03-19 03:54:52 UTC

I have the court documents to prove it lmao

2019-03-19 03:55:07 UTC

@April DM me the pics

2019-03-19 03:55:41 UTC

Go ask the court

2019-03-19 03:55:49 UTC

You need a court order to see them

2019-03-19 03:56:16 UTC

Can you show your birth certificate?

2019-03-19 03:56:18 UTC

DM me

2019-03-19 03:56:20 UTC

So you don't have the documents, then? Which is it?

2019-03-19 03:56:49 UTC

AprilToday at 11:54 PM
*"I have the court documents to prove it lmao"*

AprilToday at 11:55 PM
*"Go ask the court
You need a court order to see them"*

Both of these can't be true.

2019-03-19 03:57:34 UTC

I have them because I have certified copies of the court order and the filed papers that I have personally made. I can access them because they're my own files

2019-03-19 03:57:48 UTC

It's not illegal to disclose court documents.

2019-03-19 03:57:52 UTC

if you share your birth certificate, social security card, and ID, then I'll show you them

2019-03-19 03:57:55 UTC

nah it's just a privacy thing

2019-03-19 03:57:57 UTC

and you can redact any personal info

2019-03-19 03:58:07 UTC

why give up my privacy for some anon who's not going to believe me anyway

2019-03-19 03:58:10 UTC

it's a bullshit thing given you contradicted yourself

2019-03-19 03:58:30 UTC

I refuse to engage at this hour with a proven liar, goodnight.

2019-03-19 04:00:13 UTC

this good enough for you?

2019-03-19 04:01:21 UTC

the only one bullshitting here is you

2019-03-19 04:01:29 UTC

now please stfu and stop with your logical fallacies

2019-03-19 04:01:37 UTC

I have indeed represented myself in court

2019-03-19 04:01:47 UTC

and I indeed do my own healthcare

2019-03-19 04:02:12 UTC

at no point have I lied

2019-03-19 04:02:15 UTC

my name is indeed april

2019-03-19 04:02:20 UTC

but I guarantee yours isn't "vazorium"

2019-03-19 04:02:47 UTC

why lie and harass people?

2019-03-19 04:02:55 UTC

it's not even related to your point it just makes you look like an idiot

2019-03-19 04:07:05 UTC

@vazorium what have I lied about?

2019-03-19 04:12:07 UTC

Okay so the newst season of doctor who was the worst ever and butchred the charcter of the doctor

2019-03-19 04:14:34 UTC

Vazorium...you really are kind of being a dick to her... how about not being so condescending.. be abit more CIVIL

2019-03-19 04:16:10 UTC

I'm baffled at how he doesn't understand basic logical fallacies. First appeal to authority and then ad hominem

2019-03-19 04:16:41 UTC

What the debate here ?

2019-03-19 04:16:42 UTC

he doesn't even understand that science doesn't work off of blindly believing authority, but a peer-review process that double checks the findings and repeats the experiment

2019-03-19 04:17:07 UTC

his argument was "earth is a globe because experts say it is"

2019-03-19 04:17:21 UTC

so citizen z pointed out the fallacy

2019-03-19 04:17:26 UTC

and he got butthurt

2019-03-19 04:17:36 UTC

I'm sure there is peer-reviwed matrial that concurrs with taht

2019-03-19 04:18:02 UTC

there's peer reviewed studies on both sides

2019-03-19 04:18:11 UTC

flat earther experiments can be repeated very easily

2019-03-19 04:18:18 UTC

whereas the globe earth ones sometimes can and sometimes can't

2019-03-19 04:18:28 UTC

I'd like you to link me one peer-reviewed and caild study for flat earthers

2019-03-19 04:18:33 UTC

if nasa provides photos and says "this is from space" how can you confirm they're actually from space?

2019-03-19 04:19:01 UTC

If nasa gave me a photo saying the earth is flat how would you prove it was flat ?

2019-03-19 04:19:07 UTC

indeed

2019-03-19 04:19:11 UTC

appeal to authority is never good

2019-03-19 04:19:20 UTC

there's other organizations which confirm the findings

2019-03-19 04:19:26 UTC

but then the conspiracy goes and involves them

2019-03-19 04:19:41 UTC

I'm serious though give me a peer-reviewed matrial that says teh earth is flat

2019-03-19 04:19:50 UTC

pretty much anyone with sufficient access is going to be a multibillion dollar corp or a gov agency

2019-03-19 04:20:08 UTC

Then how do you knwo it exists ?

2019-03-19 04:20:32 UTC

I can access millions of peer-reviewed glovbe matrial...

2019-03-19 04:20:39 UTC

so your argument is just flawed

2019-03-19 04:20:54 UTC

you realize I'm not a flat earther, right?

2019-03-19 04:21:11 UTC

You'r not... then what we arguing about here

2019-03-19 04:21:19 UTC

@Xnetric not an argument

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