Message from @vazorium

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2019-03-18 23:27:41 UTC  

Why are some scientists' claims valid and others not?

2019-03-18 23:27:43 UTC  

@vazorium no. I'm saying optics is verifiable. Space is not.

2019-03-18 23:28:07 UTC  

Gtg for a bit.

2019-03-18 23:28:55 UTC  

@Citizen Z Right, so we can trust medical science now? Are *you* going to tell *me* that vaccines don't cause autism like medical science says?

2019-03-18 23:29:27 UTC  

This form of reasoning is extremely ad-hoc.

2019-03-18 23:30:13 UTC  

@vazorium I never claimed vaccines cause autism. However it's possible there is a correlation.

2019-03-18 23:30:49 UTC  

@Citizen Z Medical science says vaccines definitely do not cause autism. Again, ad-hoc reasoning.

2019-03-18 23:30:57 UTC  

The onset of symptoms of autism is around the same time vaccines are given. That's all

2019-03-18 23:31:27 UTC  

Autism is from birth

2019-03-18 23:31:28 UTC  

@vazorium ok. Your opinion based off a belief. See how that works...

2019-03-18 23:32:03 UTC  

It's like trying to say going to hospitals makes you sick

2019-03-18 23:32:47 UTC  

You didn't go to the hospital and then got sick. You were sick prior to going

2019-03-18 23:32:56 UTC  

@Citizen Z my "opinion" on the matter of the shape of the Earth is based on facts as stated by experts, something you are willing to do, blindly, for the anomy of the eye. if the former can be dismissed because of allegations of conspiracy, why is there no suspicion of conspiracy when it comes to human anatomy?

2019-03-18 23:33:26 UTC  

@vazorium appeal to authority

2019-03-18 23:33:31 UTC  

Not an argument

2019-03-18 23:33:41 UTC  

There's definitely medical conspiracies but this ain't one

2019-03-18 23:33:58 UTC  

@Citizen Z Appeal to authority is a valid argument, and something you will use in regards to the anatomy of the eye. Also, prove Appeal to Authority is a fallacy.

2019-03-18 23:34:15 UTC  

😂

2019-03-18 23:34:32 UTC  

Seriously gtg now. Look it up.

2019-03-18 23:34:40 UTC  

@Citizen Z Emojis aren't arguments. Where did you learn appeal to authority is a fallacy?

2019-03-18 23:35:26 UTC  

Further, if appeal to authority is a fallacy, then you can't claim to know facts about the eye.

2019-03-18 23:36:39 UTC  

😂

2019-03-18 23:37:08 UTC  

Appeal to authority is when you assume that just because someone is an authority they're right

2019-03-18 23:37:31 UTC  

Alright, @April has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-03-18 23:38:08 UTC  

Authorities can be wrong. That's the whole point of conspiracy theories

2019-03-18 23:39:58 UTC  

@April at 7:36 PM
*"Appeal to authority is when you assume that just because someone is an authority they're right"*
And? Citing facts as discovered by the experts is not a fallacy.

2019-03-18 23:41:08 UTC  

By default, there's no reason *not to* assume a given authority of a subject matter is wrong about said subject matter. You'd have to prove the authority is wrong.

2019-03-18 23:42:04 UTC  

And saying "Oh they're paid by the government." isn't proof of this.

2019-03-18 23:43:07 UTC  

Now, if the authority is *invalid*, say taking a layman's opinion and using it as a source, I would agree that's a fallacious argument.

2019-03-18 23:51:13 UTC  

I can't post pictures. But at 1000 feet altitude, on a flat earth, we could see about 542.5 miles given our angular resolution, while on the globe, the curvature would stop it at 38.7 miles.
Flat earth simply doesn't match reality.

2019-03-19 00:09:26 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/557354915178217492/image-42-1-1.jpg

2019-03-19 00:09:50 UTC  

😂

2019-03-19 00:10:29 UTC  
2019-03-19 00:10:33 UTC  

😂

2019-03-19 00:11:28 UTC  

And you can see the bottom obscured by that curvature

2019-03-19 00:12:47 UTC  

Longer distances could be seen due to refractive circumstances

2019-03-19 00:15:03 UTC  
2019-03-19 00:15:14 UTC  

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2019-03-19 03:38:15 UTC  

April. You need a wake up call... hospitals are one of the WORST PLACES for catching viruses or worse... even though they help you get well. ITS WHERE SICK PEOPLE GO WITH THIER DISEASE AND VIRUS.. i worked for 6 years in ICU and Cardio care units.. Mersa and worse is there

2019-03-19 03:41:27 UTC  

Autism 30 years ago was a 5-6 in a 100 maybe.... today its like over 30 %.. you tell me whats changed... ill tell you.. The MANDATORY VACCINE PROGRAMS

2019-03-19 03:45:27 UTC  

Perhaps not the best analogy but you get my point