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2019-03-18 06:57:19 UTC

thats what my above paragraph was on

2019-03-18 06:57:21 UTC

but okay

2019-03-18 06:59:36 UTC

if nasa has a blackhole budget (clever pun), why would they be stupid enough to leave evidence behind about the moon landing being fake? An organization of such immense power wouldn't leave openings for people to doubt them

2019-03-18 12:57:29 UTC

Alright, @Stick Boi has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-03-18 12:57:44 UTC

How? Oh.............

2019-03-18 12:57:56 UTC

Alright, @Stick Boi has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-03-18 12:58:16 UTC

Alright, @DownSyndrome Cory has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-03-18 12:58:34 UTC

Any word beside FU CK bypasses quite often

2019-03-18 13:08:24 UTC

saying the underage looking anime girl your attracted to is 2000 is not a genuine excuse, and ur still a pedo
thankyou for coming to my TED talk

2019-03-18 13:32:37 UTC

anyone wanna debate

2019-03-18 13:33:34 UTC

no

2019-03-18 13:33:41 UTC

k

2019-03-18 13:39:30 UTC

The Earth is a wet pancake - change my mind

2019-03-18 14:29:30 UTC

The Earth is a Dino - Change my mind

2019-03-18 14:29:40 UTC

No legs no movement

2019-03-18 16:01:46 UTC

Do flat earthers believe in dinosaurs?

2019-03-18 17:01:53 UTC

If the earth was flat why would the government lie about it?

2019-03-18 18:50:49 UTC

Three questions I have for flat Earthers-
1) Have ever you had any prior knowledge of (Classical) Geometry?
2) How do you explain the different heights of shadows at different places of the Earth?
3) How do you explain the visible curvature in high heights and disappearences of ships over the horizon?

2019-03-18 19:28:44 UTC

that's a big oof

2019-03-18 20:42:00 UTC

they cant

2019-03-18 20:47:48 UTC

earth chan isn't flat

2019-03-18 20:47:54 UTC

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

2019-03-18 22:13:32 UTC

Why is gravity formally known as "Newton's LAW of universal gravitation"?
Let that sink in.

2019-03-18 22:17:44 UTC

wait, are you for, or against the reality of gravity?

2019-03-18 22:18:09 UTC

It is a law of nature

2019-03-18 22:59:02 UTC

Yes
Perspective
There is no visible curvature at high heights unless you are looking at things like NASA or redbull.
Optical slant. @روح ادریس

2019-03-18 23:07:55 UTC

"We can see the curvature of the Earth but we came up with this other explanation that makes less sense so let's go with that." @Citizen Z

2019-03-18 23:08:31 UTC

@vazorium who sees it?

2019-03-18 23:08:32 UTC

also are you a geologist?

2019-03-18 23:08:46 UTC

@vazorium are you a curvature scientist?

2019-03-18 23:09:02 UTC

Who sees the curve?

2019-03-18 23:09:29 UTC

Name one person not related to government that sees the curve

2019-03-18 23:10:10 UTC

ancient sailors for one

2019-03-18 23:10:30 UTC

like if you're going across an ocean you can literally see it. this has been documented for centuries

2019-03-18 23:11:33 UTC

They never saw a curve

2019-03-18 23:12:13 UTC

okay they were all government spies who time traveled to fool us in the modern age

2019-03-18 23:12:17 UTC

Its called optical slant. It looks as if something is disappearing from the bottom up, but its just the way light and the eye or lenses works

2019-03-18 23:12:34 UTC

Seeing something disappear is not seeing a curve

2019-03-18 23:12:49 UTC

sure, buddy, go with the explanation that makes less sense

2019-03-18 23:12:50 UTC

The angular resolution of the eye is .02 degrees

2019-03-18 23:13:09 UTC

It doesn't make less sense. Look into it

2019-03-18 23:13:11 UTC

"The angular resolution of the eye is .02 degrees" how would you know this?

2019-03-18 23:13:12 UTC

I dare ya.

2019-03-18 23:13:39 UTC

nah I'll prove how it makes less sense. how would you know this "The angular resolution of the eye is .02 degrees"

2019-03-18 23:14:44 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/557341148432302140/Screenshot_20190318-161425_Chrome.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/557341148432302141/kan_ch26_f001.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/557341148956459028/retinaimage.png

2019-03-18 23:15:14 UTC

Yiu are not seeing a curve. You are just losing resolved light

2019-03-18 23:15:18 UTC

If the angular resolution is 0.02 degrees, which it approximately is, then we should literally see over 10,000 miles from a commercial flight by known phenomenon of optical slant.
Of course, we don't, because earth curve.

2019-03-18 23:15:24 UTC

Huh

2019-03-18 23:15:37 UTC

Where did you get that info?

2019-03-18 23:15:45 UTC

Ever hear of visibility?

2019-03-18 23:15:49 UTC

You can do the calculations by assuming a flat plane and a 0.02 degree resolution

2019-03-18 23:16:01 UTC

K show me the calculations.

2019-03-18 23:16:12 UTC

Alright, just a second...

2019-03-18 23:16:16 UTC

Then realize there is something called visibility.

2019-03-18 23:16:24 UTC
2019-03-18 23:16:37 UTC

You forgot about that

2019-03-18 23:16:49 UTC

Plus, we do see further when up higher.

2019-03-18 23:17:04 UTC

Waiting for your calculations

2019-03-18 23:18:02 UTC

h/tan(0.02 degrees) = d
h is observer height, and d distance to horizon. It gets about 3.2 miles at 6 foot observer height, which is more or less accurate. But at altitudes like 40,000 feet, it blows up.

2019-03-18 23:18:21 UTC

@Citizen Z got up for a sec, glad you responded. why do you trust Wikipedia, a wiki anyone can edit, as a reliable source for "The angular resolution of the eye is .02 degrees"?

2019-03-18 23:18:52 UTC

@Technomatrix so you discount visibility?

2019-03-18 23:18:56 UTC

Visibility, sure, but on a clear day, we should see much father than we do in reality

2019-03-18 23:19:05 UTC

@Technomatrix do you live inside a vacuum?

2019-03-18 23:19:16 UTC

On a globe, it makes sense. On a flat earth, not so much

2019-03-18 23:19:19 UTC

@Technomatrix prove it.

2019-03-18 23:19:52 UTC

well, I got perspective accounted for. Now I'll just need footage from commercial flights

2019-03-18 23:20:13 UTC

@vazorium it's not just wiki

2019-03-18 23:20:26 UTC

@Citizen Z what primary source would you trust and why?

2019-03-18 23:22:14 UTC

So you disagree?
The angular resolution of the eye is not .02 degrees?

2019-03-18 23:22:54 UTC

@vazorium please show me your findings

2019-03-18 23:23:10 UTC

I'm interested

2019-03-18 23:23:22 UTC

@Citizen Z you made a positive claim, I want to see how you go about proving it

2019-03-18 23:23:48 UTC

Test it

2019-03-18 23:24:07 UTC

You have optical measurements that precise? lmao

2019-03-18 23:24:18 UTC

Earth is round

2019-03-18 23:24:26 UTC

Debate settled

2019-03-18 23:25:44 UTC

Show me that it's wrong. I have no reason not to believe it. Its verifiable

2019-03-18 23:25:59 UTC

Unlike the globe

2019-03-18 23:26:33 UTC

Globe has been observed flat earth hasn't

2019-03-18 23:27:10 UTC

@Bear. who observed the globe?

2019-03-18 23:27:15 UTC

Did you?

2019-03-18 23:27:17 UTC

@Citizen Z So, hold on a second, when people who disagree with you post primary sources from scientists you presume they're part of a government conspiracy but when you find Wikipedia articles that proport science-sounding facts they're gospel.

2019-03-18 23:27:41 UTC

Why are some scientists' claims valid and others not?

2019-03-18 23:27:43 UTC

@vazorium no. I'm saying optics is verifiable. Space is not.

2019-03-18 23:28:07 UTC

Gtg for a bit.

2019-03-18 23:28:55 UTC

@Citizen Z Right, so we can trust medical science now? Are *you* going to tell *me* that vaccines don't cause autism like medical science says?

2019-03-18 23:29:27 UTC

This form of reasoning is extremely ad-hoc.

2019-03-18 23:30:13 UTC

@vazorium I never claimed vaccines cause autism. However it's possible there is a correlation.

2019-03-18 23:30:49 UTC

@Citizen Z Medical science says vaccines definitely do not cause autism. Again, ad-hoc reasoning.

2019-03-18 23:30:57 UTC

The onset of symptoms of autism is around the same time vaccines are given. That's all

2019-03-18 23:31:27 UTC

Autism is from birth

2019-03-18 23:31:28 UTC

@vazorium ok. Your opinion based off a belief. See how that works...

2019-03-18 23:32:03 UTC

It's like trying to say going to hospitals makes you sick

2019-03-18 23:32:47 UTC

You didn't go to the hospital and then got sick. You were sick prior to going

2019-03-18 23:32:56 UTC

@Citizen Z my "opinion" on the matter of the shape of the Earth is based on facts as stated by experts, something you are willing to do, blindly, for the anomy of the eye. if the former can be dismissed because of allegations of conspiracy, why is there no suspicion of conspiracy when it comes to human anatomy?

2019-03-18 23:33:26 UTC

@vazorium appeal to authority

2019-03-18 23:33:31 UTC

Not an argument

2019-03-18 23:33:41 UTC

There's definitely medical conspiracies but this ain't one

2019-03-18 23:33:58 UTC

@Citizen Z Appeal to authority is a valid argument, and something you will use in regards to the anatomy of the eye. Also, prove Appeal to Authority is a fallacy.

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