oh this is civil debate

its pointless

prove gravity

debate over

u cant

good talk

u need gravity for the globe ?

math doesnt prove reality

can u prove mass attracts mass due to their own mass ?

u should do it in the lounge here they would all love to see it

we are dying for proof of gravity

do u think iw ant the earth to be flat ?

I want to get like 14 100 lb dumbbells to test it because that would be awesome anyways but i dont have like $2000 lying around or the abillity to lift and store them

u prob don't need that much tbh

the Cavendish Experiment doesn't look like it needs much

cavendish wasnt an experiment

its pseudoscience

learn how science experiments work before u claim cavendish was an experiment

learn how the brain works before you claim you use one

now cavendish is pseudoscience

U should learn about how science experiments work before u think cavendish was a real scientific experiment.

an experiment is the expression of a hypothesis.

you dont perform an experiment then claim the experiment is your observed phenomena

do u guys know how science works ?

Enlighten us, your eminence

you should look into it

Thats a pretty cool experiment but i dont have dense lead balls or the mechanical invention arm thing to use. Actually apparently torsion balances are a lot simpler then i thought they were. If i can get something to hold like 300 objects up i might be able to do it at home. I guess the main problem would be friction though between the arm and the pivot

Have you guys seen the flat Earth documentary on Netflix

Have you guys seen how much fakery is on tv

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so what do you think guys about the earth being flat or a globe

yes

<@582196557592657931> please tell me what Cavendish did

Cavendish discovered RF harvesting and static fields

Possibly dowsing

next time a brainwashed globe believer asks why a mic drops when u let it go tell them its because u picked it up

if u dont pick stuff up it doesnt fall that is why it falls becuase u picked it up

cavendish said the force is 50 million to 1 ?

they dont know the cause of gravity

george musser recently said gravity isnt even a force

cavendish experiment isnt even a real science experiment

holy shit where to even start picking apart this nonsense

Yes. Nonsense

gravitational time dilation is truly an amazing phenomenon. this is when the time between two events are elapsed based on the gravitational potential of the two clocks. two experiments have really stood out to me: the Hafele–Keating experiment and the Pound–Rebka experiment. in the first experiment, there were four cesium beam atomic clocks. some were placed onto commercial planes while others stayed at a laboratory. when they were later compared, the time was in fact elapsed, and proved that the predictions from the general and special relativity were accurate. the second experiment was also related in some way to gravitational time dilation. the general theory of relativity predicted that a photon emitted downwards will experience a higher change in frequency (blueshift). the experiment was a very successful precision test for the general theory of relativity. also related to gravitational redshift, in which the frequency of a light source is changed based on its position from a gravitational source.

and no, I did not copy and paste that.

You one sick boi

interesting

Yeah bunk experiments

In Albert Einstien's theory it says that the universe is a shape of a room, otherwise would everything be flat. But I have a theory about our galaxy that our galaxy is in the same room as the universe.

That means the earth must be round and it we are in the same room as universe.

😃

lol gravity isnt a force i went over this like 5 times. Theres a difference in the force of gravity and gravity itself but people can't seem to get ahold of it. Since no one explained the cavendish experiment I will. Please don't say stuff till the end of my explanation.

So lets begin with what should happen when everything goes right. you have a rotating frictionless arm with 2 100 kg dense masses on each end and 2 non moving, heavier (to reduce friction on arm because the force of friction increases from more weight) masses 180 degrees apart just so that the rotating arm will barely not touch the masses. The rotating arm is set a little bit away from the masses like 20 degrees, then you let go; in like an hour I would assume it will have rotated a small amount toward the masses and gain kinetic energy because it moving. (Reminder this is in a perfect system where everything is being assumed right right now)...

If it were to rotate it would gain kinetic energy (speed for practical terms in this case) and would either need to have gained energy or have had energy switched from another from another form. If we define our system as the weights and the arm then it shouldn't have gained energy and thus transformed from something which we will call the potential energy of gravity. Its the most reasonable assumption we can make. It is the only isolated variable. (This is still assuming everything said is perfect now)

ok

Well from pendulums we know that potential energy of gravity (or potential energy from being upwards, energy from being lifted, whatever you want to call it, etc) is switched to between kinetic energy and that potential energy (again please keep all comment for the end).

So if all mentioned above is true, the masses will oscillate (as in like the pendulum moving back and forward) continuously. Using measurements from its oscillation would allow people to conclude a mass attracts mass because there would be nothing else to input the energy, and b something im about to find because i forgot to research tha part🤔

oh i missed something

He also had a wire that hung the arm which he could use to see how much torque and therefor force was put on the masses

Since he could actually measure the force of the "attraction" (again bare with me), he could accurately measure Force, mass, time, and distance, which allowed him to plug these things into an equation "Fg" (the force of attraction he measured with the wire) = m1m2"G" (a constant that worked to make one side equal the other)/r (distance)^2

and im now done please comment

https://youtu.be/udn_9KPEZK0

im still watching

@Citizen Z Excellent find with that cavendish debunked video.

the only thing it mentioned of serious debunking was air conditioning which he didn't have when he did his experiment

A rinky dink shed is an air tight container? No.

no but it doesn't blow air into the shed

That’s the problem colleges and universities have today. Duplicating an experiment in an enclosed container. To limit any outside interference.

no but it doesn't blow air into the shed

yeah or a room air sealed

but air being around a shed wont cause the arms to rotate. thats not a force

Obviously you didn’t even watch the video. You’re arguing against something that was just shown how air has an impact on it and can cause the arms to rotate. But an 18th century shed, is air tight in your mind, so I think this is already ridiculous.

also i will say there is no way a pendulum would proves earth rotation thats just flawed

its not air tight but it doesnt have a constant directional air flow into the shed in one direction

And what are you basing that on? As if wind can’t blow against a shed from one direction?

it would prevent any oscillation though without doubt

Ill be gone for a good chunk of the day but post any comments you have and i will respond to them

@Alexandre

MASS does not attract MASS..

GRAVITY fallacy once again

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing

Maybe there was an underground river under Cavendishs shed

So cool looks like we lost Derek Nelson to a different topic

The only comment here is wind caused the movement, but people cant say that causes oscillation

Yeah he definetly is

@the21cat You used the Foucault pendulum to infer that mass attracts mass. You’re in your own world if you think that’s what the ‘experiment’ was even about. So, yeah. Not even going to address that.

No i used a pendulum to expain how energy work not even as a part of the experiment

Explain how what energy works? The pendulum has to be manually started, and mechanized to continue the movement, otherwise it stops working. Huh?

Manually started by energy imputed into the system via lifting it

Mechanized i suppose but more or less things fall and gain speed (thus kinetic energy too) and then it cant fall because of tension but it can move because of speed in a horizontal direction so it resets to the same form of potential energy at the top of its swing

Also i dont know why people are trying to throw rotation of the earth in this. Its completely unrelated to how a pendulum moves

Perhaps because you don’t need to cite a Foucault pendulum to identify what point you’re trying to make. Since Foucault pendulum’s, were specifically meant to prove earth’s rotation, but were unsuccessful. Lots of confusion here, and it’s not because I’m off in my own world, thanks.

A pendulum moves regardless of if the earth rotates or not. The real question is why is there confusion over this? If you think the earth rotates you can easily create a pendulum and the rotation should factor out because we are on earth and if you dont think the earth rotates then pendulums still work and we are still on earth. The gravity thing has nothing to do with rotation of the earth. To be totally honest i dont know what a Foucalt pendulum is but i know that it and rotation are totally unrelated. My whole point with the pendulum was juat that it oscillates through energy changing forms but now it has become foucault pendulum and im really confused why the analogy turned into rotation of the earth