but you're free to not follow

and just go do your own thing

or split up into two groups

they aren't *forcing* you to follow

even if you just naturally do because you go with the group

Alright, @April has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

take the leader and assume he has the minority of the group following him

yes

this group doesn't then force everyone else to follow

they can split up, or the larger group support takes dominance and the minority group follows along

so the leadership can change depending on what the group decides is best

with traditional structures, that minority group would simply use violence to enforce their will on the larger group

this is what happens today with the government and police/military

a small minority decide what goes, their enforcers inflict violence on those who disagree

I see

and of course the majority go along with it due to the threat of violence, which then further reinforces the minority rule

either due to "well they're in charge"

or just due to "I don't want to upset the norm"

but imagine if the majority of the US just said "fuck the police and govenrment, we're gonna live how we want"

the first thing that would happen is that there'd be a lot of violence by the government/police/military

It wouldnt work imo

such as what happens in a protest

the majority would outnumber, but have to self defend

now, I'm not *quite* sure how that would play out

since the majority has always gone along with those in power

and it's only the minority who struggle to free themselves

rather than enforce their will

or rather

a majority follows one minority that wants power

while another minority tries to free itself from that power

i see

it's an absolute mess tbh

anyway that's the anarchist struggle and the problems we face

all ideologies have their own struggle though

yep

such as under capitalism where you end up with growing wealth inequality, and stupidly high consumption

or how capitalism leads to inevitable large police/military and gov control

in order to enforce and regulate it all

anarcho-capitalism, while not anarchism, takes on some anarchist principles and ideas in order to avoid this overregulation and to try and give power to the individuals who earn money

I used to be ancap but realized that ownership and capitalism are what were causing the problems

i see

but yeah. I support a peaceful and free society

which is why I'm an anarchist

:)

:\)

it's just that's a utopia that's a long way off unfortunately

Well i hope you achieve your goals in your country eventually

thanks

if you look around I'm sure you'll find that you adopt a lot of anarchistic principles in your own life

ok

hopefully that clarifies anything you were curious about

Yes it does :) thank you and good luck

alright

so ive recently become a flat earther

after doing an experiment

i stood on my floor

and then dropped some water on it

the water didnt roll as it would on a circle

and i didnt lean to one side, like a circle would

so

thats how i can prove the earth is flat

what do yall think

under the globe model the curve is so slight that even after large distances you still don't feel it

needs more lasers

Funny

Cant ever see the curve

Cant feel the curve?

Why do planes not account for curve?

out of interest has there been any flat earth to circumnavigate the globe or whatever model you guys believe in?

like on a boat

I am intrigued on how you fall on a flat Earth as gravity wouldn't work and many flat earthers dont think that the earth moves

@evil chicken circumnavigation works the same on a globe or flat earth going east or west

@🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄
https://www.cia.gov/open/Family%20Jewels.pdf

So, your counter evidence?

p. 5 para 3

@Human Sheeple

Project MOCKINGBIRD -- During the period from 12
March 1963 to 15 June 1963, this Office
installed telephone taps on two Washington based newsmen who were suspected of disclosing
classified information obtained from a variety
of governmental and congressional sources."

Yeah, I might've just fucked up

so, now that i have soundly refuted the claim

one example*

of where conspiracy theorists never fact-checked

You did nothing

not you specifically, since you didn't bring it up, i did

i brought it up as an example

to show one case where conspiracy theorists didn't fact-check to the primary source

seriously @🍄The Mad Philosopher🍄 how dumb have you got to be to click on a link from the same agency that smuggles coke into the USA on dressed up passenger jets?

i'd post the screenshot if i could

so, can i get unmuted now and verbally respond?

You mean where SOME or ONE person may not have.

Stop generalizing

They lost credibility at Reagan Contra 30 years ago

well, i see it in the list of interests, and that's why i brought it up

I don't give a fucking fuck what Ollie North said there, the CIA are guilty as hell

it's the same with PRISM/NSA,

most never fact-checked

and i can go into looooong detail on how that works

I did, I found snowden's back door in a router, had to get into the firmware though

Are you going to try to tell me the NSA isn't spying on us?