Message from @April

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2019-03-16 02:13:46 UTC  

the idea is basically that people can suggest certain authoritative actions

2019-03-16 02:13:51 UTC  

but no one is obligated to follow it

2019-03-16 02:14:06 UTC  

people *do* follow it willingly, if they believe that it's a good idea and respect the judgement of the person

2019-03-16 02:14:30 UTC  

think about how your own social groups work

2019-03-16 02:14:44 UTC  

do you just go "one person decides everything that happens and if you don't listen to them, well we'll beat the shit out of you"

2019-03-16 02:15:02 UTC  

or do you take it more fluidly and people suggest things, and naturally someone may become a sort of social leader that suggests good ideas that are followed

2019-03-16 02:15:17 UTC  

No but if most agree with them everyone follows

2019-03-16 02:15:23 UTC  

sure

2019-03-16 02:15:26 UTC  

but you're free to not follow

2019-03-16 02:15:32 UTC  

and just go do your own thing

2019-03-16 02:15:35 UTC  

or split up into two groups

2019-03-16 02:15:46 UTC  

they aren't *forcing* you to follow

2019-03-16 02:15:53 UTC  

even if you just naturally do because you go with the group

2019-03-16 02:16:31 UTC  

Alright, @April has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-03-16 02:16:48 UTC  

take the leader and assume he has the minority of the group following him

2019-03-16 02:16:55 UTC  

yes

2019-03-16 02:16:56 UTC  

this group doesn't then force everyone else to follow

2019-03-16 02:17:16 UTC  

they can split up, or the larger group support takes dominance and the minority group follows along

2019-03-16 02:17:35 UTC  

so the leadership can change depending on what the group decides is best

2019-03-16 02:17:56 UTC  

with traditional structures, that minority group would simply use violence to enforce their will on the larger group

2019-03-16 02:18:13 UTC  

this is what happens today with the government and police/military

2019-03-16 02:18:29 UTC  

a small minority decide what goes, their enforcers inflict violence on those who disagree

2019-03-16 02:18:33 UTC  

I see

2019-03-16 02:18:52 UTC  

and of course the majority go along with it due to the threat of violence, which then further reinforces the minority rule

2019-03-16 02:18:58 UTC  

either due to "well they're in charge"

2019-03-16 02:19:05 UTC  

or just due to "I don't want to upset the norm"

2019-03-16 02:19:35 UTC  

but imagine if the majority of the US just said "fuck the police and govenrment, we're gonna live how we want"

2019-03-16 02:19:52 UTC  

the first thing that would happen is that there'd be a lot of violence by the government/police/military

2019-03-16 02:19:52 UTC  

It wouldnt work imo

2019-03-16 02:19:55 UTC  

such as what happens in a protest

2019-03-16 02:20:08 UTC  

the majority would outnumber, but have to self defend

2019-03-16 02:20:40 UTC  

now, I'm not *quite* sure how that would play out

2019-03-16 02:20:51 UTC  

since the majority has always gone along with those in power

2019-03-16 02:20:58 UTC  

and it's only the minority who struggle to free themselves

2019-03-16 02:21:01 UTC  

rather than enforce their will

2019-03-16 02:21:05 UTC  

or rather

2019-03-16 02:21:14 UTC  

a majority follows one minority that wants power

2019-03-16 02:21:21 UTC  

while another minority tries to free itself from that power

2019-03-16 02:21:29 UTC  

i see

2019-03-16 02:21:32 UTC  

it's an absolute mess tbh

2019-03-16 02:21:45 UTC  

anyway that's the anarchist struggle and the problems we face