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2019-07-02 00:46:57 UTC

objects thata re more dense usually means it has more mass

2019-07-02 00:47:07 UTC

the more mass the faster something will fall

2019-07-02 00:47:58 UTC

im only 15

2019-07-02 00:48:03 UTC

and ik alot

2019-07-02 00:48:51 UTC

to debat a old flat earther

2019-07-02 00:48:58 UTC

density affects falling speed.

2019-07-02 00:49:02 UTC

mass

2019-07-02 00:49:08 UTC

affects the falling speed

2019-07-02 00:49:41 UTC

a feather weighs less

2019-07-02 00:49:49 UTC

and a rock more

2019-07-02 00:49:57 UTC

a feather is also less DENSE

2019-07-02 00:50:14 UTC

and has less mass

2019-07-02 00:50:16 UTC

density is what affects falling speed along with air resistance

2019-07-02 00:50:37 UTC

remove air resistance then the more dense object will go faster

2019-07-02 00:51:04 UTC

yes

2019-07-02 00:51:09 UTC

that allpies to mass

2019-07-02 00:51:14 UTC

also

2019-07-02 00:51:37 UTC

aplies*

2019-07-02 00:52:44 UTC

You got a lot to learn kid.

2019-07-02 00:53:09 UTC

why

2019-07-02 00:53:19 UTC

what im saying is true

2019-07-02 00:53:26 UTC

The whole density/buoyancy replacement for gravity is disproven by dropping objects in a vacuum chamber.

2019-07-02 00:53:28 UTC

Mass applies to weight. Density applies to mediums

2019-07-02 00:53:44 UTC

That test was proven falsified.

2019-07-02 00:53:52 UTC

Anyways I'm out

2019-07-02 00:53:55 UTC

lol

2019-07-02 00:53:56 UTC

avoiding

2019-07-02 00:54:01 UTC

bye

2019-07-02 00:54:18 UTC

"That test?"

2019-07-02 00:59:50 UTC

there's a nice video from TSG physics which demonstrates the ball and coin effect

2019-07-02 01:00:04 UTC

two objects of different masses fall at different rates inside of a tube filled with air

2019-07-02 01:00:22 UTC

once a vacuum is created, the objects are dropping again inside the tube

2019-07-02 01:00:26 UTC

they fall at the same rate

2019-07-02 01:01:15 UTC

besides the popular cox video, there are a multitude of videos proving the same experiment

2019-07-02 01:01:56 UTC

there is no need to avoid the test as it can be ignored for the sake of the argument

2019-07-02 01:02:02 UTC

the argument here is that it was falsified

2019-07-02 01:02:39 UTC

with replicated experiments littered on the web, it is safe to say that this experiment is thoroughly tested to be true

2019-07-02 01:02:57 UTC

^ exactly

2019-07-02 01:04:27 UTC

High school science classes debunk this all the time.

2019-07-02 01:06:30 UTC

as for buoyancy being the cause of gravity, that cannot be correct as buoyancy depends on the gravitational constant to work

2019-07-02 01:12:52 UTC

buoyancy has no vector

2019-07-02 01:49:21 UTC

gravity exists

2019-07-02 02:04:06 UTC

prove it

2019-07-02 02:09:27 UTC

The tides.

2019-07-02 02:12:41 UTC

the majority thinks it exists

2019-07-02 02:13:24 UTC

u are making the claim it doesnt

2019-07-02 02:14:51 UTC

so

2019-07-02 02:14:53 UTC

u prove it

2019-07-02 02:21:29 UTC

I'm appealing to mainstream science's explanation for tides, which is a gravitational "tug" from the moon as it orbits the earth. If you have a better explanation for the tides, I'm all ears.

2019-07-02 02:21:59 UTC

are u talking to me?

2019-07-02 02:23:30 UTC

No, just following up to my other post, sorry steveman.

2019-07-02 02:24:16 UTC

It was directed at umwhat

2019-07-02 02:24:17 UTC

oh kk

2019-07-02 02:24:23 UTC

me to

2019-07-02 03:53:16 UTC

i'd like to discuss the origin of the firmament theory

2019-07-02 03:53:25 UTC

aside from the bible, where did this idea originate from

2019-07-02 04:27:40 UTC

i think someone thought that the earth was flying through a medium, and that was called the firmament

2019-07-02 04:28:07 UTC

the earth does not move

2019-07-02 04:28:19 UTC

the firmament was there since day 2 of Creation

2019-07-02 04:28:35 UTC

'aside from the bible,'

2019-07-02 04:38:50 UTC

Aside from the bible, are there other interpretations of the origin of the firmament

2019-07-02 04:42:53 UTC

I'd like to set religion aside for this and want to see what other scientific observations led to this conclusion

2019-07-02 04:43:08 UTC

it's one thing to say what we understand is created from our religion, it's another to say exactly why

2019-07-02 04:48:17 UTC

from what i understand here was a man that though the earth was flying through a medium, he did some testing to see if this was correct, and found there to be no medium, or firmament

2019-07-02 04:49:06 UTC

what tests did he do

2019-07-02 04:49:07 UTC

That goes hard against the religious belief as well, don't know how they would respond to that

2019-07-02 04:49:29 UTC

I don't really like answers saying that the bible is 100% true, because that implies a lot of bad things that the bible says

2019-07-02 04:49:43 UTC

you cant really argue against god because its not falsifiable

2019-07-02 04:49:54 UTC

Hostile defense religious arguments kind of defeat the purpose of the debate

2019-07-02 04:50:06 UTC

they just fall behind a failsafe and you can't really prod it without exploding

2019-07-02 04:50:34 UTC

they can just explain anything with "because god"

2019-07-02 04:50:51 UTC

why is the sky blue? because god made it blue

2019-07-02 04:51:01 UTC

and it works

2019-07-02 04:51:09 UTC

even when there is a clear non-religious explanation they just fall behind the safe word

2019-07-02 04:52:54 UTC

he theorised that if there was a firmament, then light would travel faster in one direction then the other, as one way the light would be going against the firmament, the test he did did not fined these results, this test was conducted using the globe model, and i am trying to fined out who actually did it, this is just from memory

2019-07-02 05:02:50 UTC

@Nico2020 sounds like michelson and morley

2019-07-02 05:03:05 UTC

idk

2019-07-02 05:03:09 UTC

prob

2019-07-02 05:03:29 UTC

they found that earth was still in the aether

2019-07-02 05:03:40 UTC

by testing light speed

2019-07-02 05:03:51 UTC

then einstein came up with a theory that said the earth was still moving

2019-07-02 05:04:10 UTC

but that the aether didn't exist

2019-07-02 05:18:52 UTC

The Michelson Morely experiment concluded that aether doesn't exist.

2019-07-02 11:52:50 UTC

Wrong

2019-07-02 12:35:01 UTC

how so?

2019-07-02 13:18:42 UTC

It wasnt conclusive

2019-07-02 13:20:28 UTC

Actual results say the earth is at rest

2019-07-02 13:20:33 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/595604729946701836/Screenshot_20190123-040330_Chrome.jpg

2019-07-02 13:20:37 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/595604746845552660/Screenshot_20190123-040509_Chrome.jpg

2019-07-02 13:20:43 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/538929818834698260/595604773592498186/Screenshot_20190123-040205_Chrome.jpg

2019-07-02 13:21:35 UTC

Other experiments confirm an ether

2019-07-02 13:23:58 UTC

Michaelson morely experiment wasn't conclusive cuz it tried to prove ether and failed

2019-07-02 13:25:44 UTC

also, the two lasers deviating a little was the expected result and the actual resukt

2019-07-02 13:25:50 UTC

gravitational waves are real

2019-07-02 13:25:54 UTC

stop lying

2019-07-02 13:27:55 UTC

No it confirmed the earth isnt moving

2019-07-02 13:28:05 UTC

Lying?

2019-07-02 13:28:08 UTC

F off

2019-07-02 13:28:15 UTC
2019-07-02 13:28:15 UTC

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