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First here. The 2nd Admendment vs. the NRA. Go.

@Timcast goes to the firing range. Coming to a Discord Server near you.

Bolt action rifle should be as freely available as alchohol

Silencers should be too.

And 3D printed guns.

>silencer

Wew lad

Silencer sounds more ninja assassin like than suppreeers

haha

>When someone says silencer instead of suppressor

WOOP WOOP guns chat!

Do not silence me! That's is your gun privledge speaking.

This is the dedicated Ian-McCollum-posting chatroom

just for you guys

Also, Pornhub.

So funny thing, I was watching ian talk about how Mausers were very ingrained into Boer culture that their sayin was "by God or Mauser"

i don't even own a gun

i bring great shame upon my American heritage

I own a document to print my own 3D printed gun but no printer.

lit

Im canadian so i have no right to defend myself or my family

Yes, I can see you being Real Spicy on this issue.

ba dum tss

wat

Well, its a death sentence to machine one myself here.

And owning ammo

Which is annoying at most. I heard of people smuggling them in

@missdanger crew served weapons and artillery, minimum. Remember, used to apply to cannons and warships.

faggotry

a real man just needs a rifle

lol

tomorrow I'll have pics of my completed featureless build

^that right there is actual faggotry

Right, here's the rest of my Ians, one TactiKarl and one pic related

noncompliance leads to arrest

lol

did someone dip a nugget in army green paint

And chop it, put a comp and a sight on. Waste of a SBR, really.

**Forgotten Weapons** Uploaded a new youtube video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oznjv7KbmsQ

Oh hey, when did this get here

I know right? A surprise, but a pleasant one indeed.

Can I has a gun please?

Just go to the local drug den

In case of euro, substitute drug den with mosque. Just remember to go at night.

But I not muslim. Or euro

Smuggling is cheap, easy? Maybe not.

I didn't say be muslim

Depends on country

May be easier to do homebrew

Jojing aside, I dont know ive been contemplating for weeks how id get one gun in.

To where

?

Issue is, its a capital punishment for owning ammo.

Or fabricating your own. Owning firearm alone is already quite harsh.

Malaysia.

Probably the most progressive muslim nation out there.

Oof

Are casings and primers regulated?

So theres people smuggling stuff through thailand

Like I said, just ammo, having components ias also treated at attempted manufacturing, so thats death as well.

Fuck me

I haven't the faintest how to make a primer and casings are a pain to make from scratch

Takes years to get a license even if you get everything done perfectly. Well making gunpower would already alarm the secret police.

If it's just the gun you're after I can send you some blueprints no problem but I think the secret police might disapprove of you having those

Even then, nothing I can do, machining parts is also not easy.

Eh

So I figured easiest thing is to pay smugglers to carry one across the border.

Only part you'd have to do yourself is rifling

You can split the rest among multiple machine shops

Don't give any one enough of an order to make it obvious it's a gun

Or just make one from scratch, like a pipe, that also dosent solve the issue with ammo.

Well id love to own one, but with the penalties so steep its not worth it.

It will screw up the whole family. Too much to lose.

So bail

Well I cant just do that. People bailing is what keeps shitholes shitholes

Find the nearest US embassy, then go onto the street in front of it, proclaim yourself gay and/or atheist and run in

Dont get me wrong, I still love my country. Leaving wont fix it. And well, heres hoping that the stigma behind gun ownership here is gone but doing anything now will just get my family in trouble.

How are you guys ruled?

At least theoretically by an elected official of some type?

Its improving. Hence why I said I think its improving.

But the country has been so peaceful in terms of conflict that people see no need to protect themselves.

Yeah theres parties. And we elect representatives for each district.

Are they actually the ones with the power?

For example I vote on a district representative and the party that represents the state.

And then they end up electing people to handle each area.

Area of expertise I mean. So id say they do have power and are elected by votes

The guy in charge of finance now for example was picked by the party that won the entire electoral vote.

I mean, is it a "we're totally democratic guise" type of deal or actually one?

It looks like one so far. Its definately democratic now, opposition won for the first time since independence

Oh, it's actually improving then

Nice

Issue is, I feel like more time hasbeen spent on arresting the previous PM than ive seen on what the new party is doing. They are pretty qualified in my opinion, but they have alot of cleaning to do.

But I said crossroads. The party can end up becoming more like the eastern europeans, or the americans.

Eh, Eastern Europe these days isn't that bad

Unless you've got a direct border with Russia, that is

Well assuming it exists in a vaccum.

I mean we share a border with thailand, pretty corrupt cops and law enforcement and rather terrifying speech laws.

And singapore, probably the only functioning authoritharian state I canthink of.

In fact that small chunk of rock could probably take on the entire south east asia.

Functions because it's also hyper capitalist

Which was my next point.

Extremely competitive people, and hardworking.

Everyone there is trained. Spent at least a year in the military

Not me, I mean every youth there.

Probably wouldny make military though as my eyesight would disqualify me.

Yeah, same

Actually, I probably could. It's the German military.

Which was a pity my parents left there. Though if I stayed in singapore, id probably be alot more left leaning than I am now.

Still, the politics here has been really spicy lately regardless.

And well, people dont like it when I compare here to the previous us ele tion.

Oh thats what they were missing

Gordan Freeman eat your heart out

wheres the bike lock

lol theres a firearms chat in a tim pool server

If someone posts the 4chan gun designs, is that firearms chat or shitposting?

Singapore functions because their benevolent dictator turned out to actually be benevolent. And crazy smart.

And somehow managed to institutionalize both traits into the system he created.

Science says no but my heart says yes

Who doesn't want a bullpup lever-action rifle

What in the fuck is that

And why is it sexist?

My neck and cheek hurts just by looking at it

Has to be the worst designed bullpup ive seen

Worse than the famas

Also I should mention, Lim, the guy in charge of Singapore, really wasnt happy with Singapore getting kicked out. They didnt ask to leave, they left Singapore, a rock without any resources, so he had to be quick.

Basically a bunch of angry natives, and the govt saw no alternative way without bloodshed.

So its wierd that this isnt thaught in schools.

The problem with dictatorships is not the dictator by default, it's entirely possible to have a dictator everyone is alright with. The problem comes from what happens when they get replaced or fall out of favor.

Of which people are getting concerned with.

As they havent named a successor, and he is obviously getting tired.

Mind you, their politicians are one of the highest paid in the world.

this is gun chat

I swear the discussion started with gun laws.

I started the gun conversations about what one could buy. lol

it's related to guns, it started with talks about gun control and the lack of someone's ability to get a gun.

Awww yiss, the chat I can relate to

gibe us M O A R guns!

The punt gun

Damn, whats the recoil on that

Yes

Punt guns are responsible for at least two extinctions of species of water bird

It is illegal to use them today

in USA*

See? They work. If I'm going to get a gun, I want one that works.

Aren't those just giant bored shotguns?

Sure are

I want one of these

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/guns/images/e/eb/RSh-12.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180126123006

Is there like a legal limit on the size of shotgun bore?

I can say what the legal limit should be

20mm and above is usually considered cannon, however since 12ga > 50cal shotguns already have a DD exemption, so I dunno

with the size of that thing it looks like it could function as a makeshift anti-aircraft gun

The strongest one can hold without shattering their forearms

Disregard the hinge thing (the inventor just wanted to show that it can be made into a top-break as well as side-swing revolver, so he implemented both in a prototype)

What if I made a shotgun pepperbox/volley gun?

Same basic effect but legal?

How long before the US Space Force gets bolters

You can get any size you want, legally

This russian revolver is 12.7mm, but it comes with a buttstock, so it would not murder the hands

DDs can still be registered

If I recall, the DD designation comes from how fast you can fire right?

Nope

a bolter would rip your arm straight off, so extreme genetic engineering would be first

bolter rounds are roughly the size of a water bottle

Comes from bore size OR explosive charge

Is there a specific number for that?

IE, rifle above .50cal is a DD

Or does it vary by state?

National

But a .30cal could be a DD if it's explosive tipped above a certain amount

Don't know the amount, sorry

AFAIK US inherited the british gun sizing, then evolved it a bit, and then adopted metric alongside the old designations...

It is a bit of a mess

But bore cutoff is >12.7mm

I mean, trying to name the different calibers are like naming pokemon at this point

Barring C&R exemptions and shotguns

Actually, get in voice

can you hear me?

I can

I can't hear you

aye aye captain

@GingaBomber join voice

Oh okay

Mind the bad ping

The Canadian meme bullpup is just an early prototype, and not man fireable for safety reasons I'd imagine.

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I like how they have a grenade launcher attatched

but no bump stock

also suppressor

oh yeah you're right I didn't even pay attention to the stock

reminds me of this shit

@Schedrevka the other day I found out that those actually exist

https://www.panaceax.com/weaponized-chainsaw/copy-of-zxcs-chain-saw-in-coyote-brown

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/58f68f96bf629af9cb4f06e7/58f8f45c2994caf3de1f4ea6/58f8fbcee6f2e1132b0eaa75/1492712399033/ZXCB-CB-up-1024x768.jpg?format=1000w

Uses: Drug enforcement officers can use it for marijuana eradication
Marijuana growers can use it for harvesting crops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK88EsjZCrc

I'm not much of a gun person, but is that a fucking m1 garand?

Sure is

Dolled up as a Mk14

disgusting

I wonder how that will be viewed 400 years from now. Probably will be considered a really interesting piece

Like a spear made from a broken sword

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6_ugobl5sk

His videos are pretty neat even if they're all the same

I personally find that style of m14 ugly

What do you guys suggest for an EDC: Aluminum foil knife, or Pasta knife

To make an M1 garand like that is just an insult

The foil knife retains an edge better, I'd be worried about it delaminating when I really needed it

https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/finnish-molotov-cocktail-and-booze-crate/33423

That one actually looks pretty cool if you pretend it's not an abomination

I still find the "magazine in front of trigger" for pistols rather strange.

I am an ammosexual

Just personal taste

Came across this pic of a flintlock recently. Usually you see the axe bit on the end of the barrel.

hmm

Interesting choice

How does one hold that? Lnaoy

carefully

Well, you would make a sorta aimed shot with the thing and then you'd use it as an axe

http://trgriq.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/unnamed.jpg

that rifle from fucking hunt showdown looked more useable

I understand some thought for that, 1 it first in the holster better, 2 it works better as an axe