I think that's the misconception of what it was originally thought to be.

personally, i'd put nazis, socialist, and communists on all the same side. But maybe that side is up or down rather than left or right

The term actually WAS coined by Richard Spencer

nowadays the left redefined it to white supremacist

the term was popularized during this last election to mean that

Popularized by... was it Milo?

and all it took was someone else to mention it

for Richard Spencer to suddenly become relevant

naw, they redefined white supremacist is anything or any one who disagrees with them

the term meant /pol/

no concrete ideas

white supremacy was part of it, but didn't define it

I'd disagree.

Even if it DID mean anything else, Alt-right has been sullied anyway.

I'd fight the Left over words

there is two definitions of alt-right. What the left thinks it is, and what everyone accused of being alt-right things its is

but pulling words back from the alt-right won't do us any good.

to the left, anything right of Stalin is "alt-right"

The fact is that the alt right is hard to discern, between their figureheads and the trolls that are out just to get a rise out of people. It gives off the impression that they're not serious, and if they are not taking their beliefs that seriously, why should anyone else?

I believe Alt-Right begins with anyone presenting as being 'right', but in support of an ethnostate.

it's like ppl don't know 4chan

I don't agree

I'm willing to bet MSM didn't know what 4chan and /pol/ where and took them seriously

alt-right doesn't necessarily support an ethnostate

typical old people not understanding the internet

I thought they were nationalists that believed since every race has it's own "state" in the world, then that would include white people as well. I don't even think I've heard many self-described alt-righters claim to be "supremecist", so much as just acknowledging that there are racial differences.

Belial

but they do acknowledge the problems of open borders and "white genocide"

in much the same way that I once would've considered myself a feminist, and a humanist

Those words mean something different now.

they have all been hijacked by the same group of people

like they had strings attaching them to that group as they fell into a black hole

thereºs a big difference

feminist was taken by a group and used for power

you know that feeling

alt-right was redefined by their enemies

When you're a fan of a video game series or something

Civic nationalism.

and then you realize that the other people who call themselves fans of that thing

@RyeNorth ik where you're going with this =p

make stuff like this?

but I don't think this is the case

I can't call myself a Sonic fan.

alt-right was redefined by outsiders

It's like watching the show "My Little Pony", and *then* finding out about bronies, afterward.

kind of.

not by people inside misusing the label

gotta go to sleep, it's 4am and I work tomorrow

White supremacist[27] Richard Spencer initially promoted the term in 2010 in reference to a movement centered on white nationalism and did so, according to the Associated Press, to disguise overt racism, white supremacism, neo-fascism and neo-Nazism.[28][29][30] The term drew considerable media attention and controversy during and after the 2016 United States presidential election.[31]

Many things wrong with this article, yes

nice discussion though 👍

but

I mean, I didn't hear anyone using the term prior to the 2016 election

what term?

alt-right?

I first heard about it from Milo, and then Hillary Clinton.

linked above is the citation for the term Alt-right

watch the early videos from milo

it came from /pol/

nothing else

it had to do with right wing people not feeling represented by the right

http://takimag.com/article/the_conservative_write#axzz4JRcIyz7D counterpoint

and discussing ideas that the right party would never discuss

that was the point of the alt-right

"The intellectual bankruptcy of neoconservatism as well as the current stagnation of the movement conservatism should give paleos, traditionalists, and anyone else on the alternative Right some cause for optimism… Or at least, this is what everyone I know in Manhattan is saying. " - Richard Spencer, 2008

he literally called it "alternative right", not "alt-right", right?

what do you think it's short for?

I think it's a sad coincidence

just like "lolita" fashion isn't the same as "lolita" known in the west

Perhaps.

it was here that a guy had a lolita site right?

2 or 3 days ago

why do I not doubt that it would've been Ping?

that google forced him to close

oh

nvm

hahaha

the guy blamed google for considering "lolita" as the sexual thing

while "lolita" meant the conservative, beautiful and not sexualised fashion

the guy was forced to close the site because all ad networks gave him porn ads

I think it's similar here. ppl that called it "alt-right" in /pol/ didn't mean the same definition Richard Spencer used 10 (fuckin') years ago

5 years ago, gender still meant sex 😂

So, yeah

I think you're right.

I don't think Richard Spencer really was referring to the Alt-Right as it's defined at large

But since those who ACTUALLY coined it

Didn't actually put forward an established guideline

It got thoroughly miscategorized.

You've made your point, but I still don't think it's a title we can take back.

the left WANTED it to mean what Richard Spencer wanted. Didn't the media do a ton of interviews to reinforce it too?

Oh yeah.

I mean, literally, who the fuck WAS Richard Spencer before 2016?

you use a word 10 years ago. ppl start a meme with the same name and you get famous

let's be honest, if the media didn't want it to be this way. It would have never happened

That's almost like the buzzword equivalent of patent trolling.

jesus christ

I'm watching Crowder's coverage of the Oscars

He had a drinking game, and dear fucking LORD is he wasted right now.

Absolute madman.