bit of a one-sided fight that 1h clip is 😛

Eh, so was the war

Well, zulus lost almost 7k vs 2k europeans.

Then again, might have a point, europeans would retreat earlier.

Still thoguh balance wise, sure, you have cannons, and musketlines, but youd encounter waves of a 100 at once. They will drop like flies, but once they get close, your firing line is screwed.

true, though in most cases they wouldn't all just stand undefended they'd have ways to keep the people on distance
walls, dem spike barriers, pits etc

Im talking the game tho.

IRL, well, they had volley fire formation.

Had some fortified positions that funneled the zulus.

yeah

I like the volley fire formation. Pike and shot period to shot and bayonet period has to be my fourth favourite moment in war

When it comes to war history

Worst thing to hear in this mod? Your commander yelling "affix bayonets"

haha

Well, cause spears are actually better than bayonets. In close range. Rifles wernt long enough to be used as conventional spears that time.

I mean whys that?

for the non-spear people i'd imagine?

Well, spears were better than swords in general

yeah

but i always figured bayonets were for a last moment stab when you're still shooting and don't have time to draw another weapon

well, with fire rates that slow, youd only get one chance in close range.

So you switch to a melee range. A bayonet just happened to be the most cost effective way to get everyone cheap bladed close range weapons.

Unlike calvary that would get cutlasses.

Like what? Club them to death with the stock?

well if you're on your own yes, but wouldn't you get a bit more time to reload when your squad fires too?

Well, unless you have some form of volley fire.

Thats an issue.

Also, if you are firing alone, you are already doing something terribly wrong.

maybe you're Chuck Colonorrist?

I mean, those muskets create so much smoke that the field is a mist after a half dozen volleys.

And you only have enough time to fire a few times.

Not sure how common melee ended up, but it was understood that you either shot from afar with a unit, or were close up in their faces.

makes sense yeah

With bayonets.

Like said, just happens to be the nuance of the period. Ranged weapons with innate armor piercing simply made metal armor obsolete.

One shot + a canister of cotton and gunpowder is easier to transport than arrows/crossbows despite both being more accurate than shot.

Bayonets + pistols for close range. Since shots take so goddamn long to reload and fire.

maybe africa should demand a rematch

Well, they already started in south afric

Id joke more, but I really would rather actually hope someone does something about it.

Australia should put forth its plan to move those white people from South Africa to Australia,

Then we can just watch south africa go the way of Zimbabwe

Fuck whoever is calling Aussies racist for bringing over farmers.

Like let my country take the rohingyas. The farmers will actually contribute to society.

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Black British Woman should touch base with all the "cowardly & weak" gangbangers in Chicago

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wth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJtkmvkwcjc

This needs to be seen.

why?

cuz it shows the mainstream media being just one mouthpiece for whoever is paying them

'n shizzle

well... its a general statement that is intended to fit for all stations... and it is completely neutral on politics...

all those stations are owned by the same company too, so they were just all given that script

im just elaborating on why he linked it, i'm not like "pff, liek u didn't know that? pff l2 facts k?"

yeah... i know the context... i just don't see any relevance... its basic self promotion, i don't expect a company to write hundreds of scripts that is tailored to each station... now if the message was inherently political i might see it differently... but it really is not.

well it does hint at the fact that the amount of real reporters out there is considerably less, due to these all pretty much broadcasting most likely from the same source

well... its local news... do you expect a newspaper to be completely different in every area for which it has local news or just that the local news part is different?

i was under the impression that local news would still be running news on their own'

news sure... that is not news but self promotion

You don't think there's something wrong with all of these news stations being handed scripts from on high?

for self promotion? nope.

That maybe something can possibly go awry with such a system?

It's not promotion. What are they promoting? What are they selling?

the name "self promotion" should give you a hint on what they are promoting 😉

what exactly are they promoting there though?

All i'm getting from them in those clips is the "listen to us, not fake news" lipservice

That doesn't answer the general question of if whether or not you don't see anything wrong with this.

its the same thing as cnn saying that they sell apples 😉

Deflection with an attempt of humor is not an answer.

In fact it's pretty indicative that you don't have one.

it IS the same thing

the ONLY difference is that they used the local staff instead of making a general spot

i'd say they're using local staff TO make a general spot

(which in this case is just the easier route to go)

sure

again... if they would be pushing some sort of political narrative i would object to it... but that is really just self promotion...

but they're just preaching that CNN propaganda bull of "Theres people pushing agendas with their news, which is dangerous to our values, so listen to us instead"

they're preaching an agenda, about people pushing an agenda

....you don't think the news media pushes an agenda?

sounds political to me tbh

Of course they do.

i don't think that promo is any different that what the rest of the news media does

Because everyone has an agenda: you, me, Jayred, CNN, Tim, Sargon, the alt right, islamist terrorists, etc.

i stopped using an agenda in the 2nd grade!

😛

lol

i don't have an agenda, which is probably why i keep forgeting to buy milk 😄

thats my joke! i'm going to make an agenda to ruin you!

How is it self promotion, though? It seems they're all being told to deliver the same message about what to think to the general public, to me.

that is waht they're doing

i guess in a way it IS self promotion, because they're saying "use us for oyur news instead of "the others""

it is a promotional text that is general enough to work for all stations with little to no changes

they are saying "we are unbiased news and don't report fake news" - exactly what cnn is saying.

This isn't some generalized ,"btw please subscribe" request or anything like that. This is a specific political message with a specific intent being passed down to all of these news agencies.

And there is no disclosure about any of this either.

They are respresenting the information as if they are the originators of it.

what political message would that be?

don't listen to other media, only us because they push an agenda, we don't

^

Which is ironically pushing an agenda.