ugh, I went to nap

and then when I woke up to do a production rollout

I'm just exhausted

If they were that concerned with it, they should've sued for peace with the Allied forces, in the hopes they are allowed to retain their sovereignty

Instead they split up, Lost the war, lost their sovereignty for 50 years, and are now wrecked with guilt that is destroying them morally and now economically

but I'm not sleepy

Hitler wasn't some tragic hero

He was a bastard who got greedy

Jay they sued for peace so many times but the Allies ignored the Germans.

no offense adolf 😛

I thought he was just a cray cray

like mao or stalin

ah yes, the ol' sue for peace whilst continuing their ethnic cleansing

There weren't too many anti-capitalists that actually had their heads screwed on straight

Hitler wanted to be friends with britain not destory them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfw6tEt5Is

ooh so the london blitz was an attempt at hugging

Hell of a way of showing it.

the Labor parties say they want to be friends with low wage people too, yet every time they gain power they ruin the common mans future

wanted != always want

I may have wanted a cupcake

but then I realized that I'd go over my calorie limit

so I exterminated all the jews

I always want a cupcake.

Cupcakes? You mean CAPITALIST-OPIUM?!

Do you even know what you are talking about? Britian boombed German civilians first and asked them not to but the British kept doing it and didn't the allies bomb dresden to ruins?

'first'

its war time,

Britain didn't go "oh, Hitler is in charge, lets bomb em lads"

Hitler started invading neighboring countries which the british were allied with

AFTER a history of diplomatic appeasement...

if some dude says he wants to be your friend, and punches your best buddy

You don't go telling your best buddy "Ah sorry there mate, but he wants to be my friend too"

I mean... that could come down to the lack of education on Hitler's part...

@Dr.Wol Germany invaded Poland becase the Polish massacred germans living there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1939)

so you're saying we should invade South Africa then?

They're butchering white people

No I'm saying that's why Germany invaded Poland.

I've spent the last 5 hours watching the inrangetv series with that barrel guy

it's pretty interesting

yes, so they invaded a country exeeding their sovereign right, due to some people getting killed

he should get his name legally changed to 'the barrel guy'

Man-O-Barrel

This article doesn't describe anything you mentioned, Aussie.

Beginning in early September, Nazi intelligence organization Abwehr reported in document prepared by general Erwin Lahousen that German armed saboteurs conducting operations behind the front line in Bydgoszcz suffered heavy losses

Do you think a country has the right to stop massacring of it's people in other countries? Germany tried getting the Polish to stop it by talking but it didn't work.

"The sequence started with an attack of German Selbstschutz snipers on retreating Polish troops and then was followed by a Polish reaction"

A country has no right to invade another unless its on their own soil

I don't think that 100% Jayred

there can be all sorts of circumstances

like a country damming a river that's downstream to another country

fair enough i'll rephrase it

"Fifty Polish prisoners of war from Bydgoszcz were later falsely accused by Nazi Sondergericht Bromberg summary courts for taking part in "Bloody Sunday" and shot."

A country has no right to conquer another unless its their own soil

Wow, germany was fucking out of control.

well, what if you're putting down a threat and you want to ensure defeat? You can't trust that when they're pushed back to their original lines that they'll stop

you should read "On War" if you haven't yet

yeah, hence i said conquering, as in "Okay, its ours now"

ok

I'm fine with invading and removing them from power, like what they did to Nazi Germany

but there would be reasons to redraw lines

but no Annexation etc

From what this source that Aussie sent me says

and to annex and control

Anyway if invading Poland was the only reason why the British and French went to war with Germany then why didn't they go to war with the USSR who also invaded Poland around the same time?

The german fatalities were a result of an engagement initiated by German snipers

Although generally it turns out worse, see: Germany, Korea

Hitler invaded France too, not just Poland

Tried to invade Switzerland

but you know, gun rights too stronk

Know but they declared war on Germany for invading poland.

even more so

At the time, the Axis powers were the only thing threatening the West

Russia had not initiated aggression, hence they were seen as something of unlikely allies at the time

and Russia invading Poland was shoved under "Retaliation for Operation Barbarossa" and "Liberating Poland from the Nazis"

Well, yeah...

That's how alliances work..

Jay what about the USSR supporting communist parties in the west?

So? the USA supports Capitalist parties in the East

What's the point in having an alliance with another nation if you just let them get shit on without recourse.

Rye the USSR also went to war with Poland but Britian and France didn't go to war with the USSR why?

"Russia had not initiated aggression, hence they were seen as something of unlikely allies at the time
and Russia invading Poland was shoved under "Retaliation for Operation Barbarossa" and "Liberating Poland from the Nazis""

Didn't the USSR switch sides during WW2?

I'm remembering that correctly, right?

they had a non-aggression pact

basically Stalin and Hitler came together initially and said "You get half of Poland and i get a half, and we wont attack each other so we can defend against the other fronts"

but then hitler invaded Russia in an attempt to take Moskou, breaking the pact

Yes they were allies with Germany so they could get east Poland so why didn't Britian or France declare war on the USSR?

i told you twice!

Russia had not initiated aggression, hence they were seen as something of unlikely allies at the time
and Russia invading Poland was shoved under "Retaliation for Operation Barbarossa" and "Liberating Poland from the Nazis"

they didn't declare war because why fight two wars when you can end at 1

after WW2 the russians didn't continue their conquest, so they were left at their borders

Jay the USSR wanted to invade Germany so the German invasion was ment to take them out before the USSR could take Germany out.

yes, according to your wikipedia article which itself states is full of plot-holes and unknowns

as i've said, its about as solid a case as the Trump-Russia dossier

Jay What about the USSR invading and occupying Barbarossa, parts Finland and the baltic states?

Aussie, a 'Revisionist' is literally someone who embelishes a story based losely on facts.

basically, what that article told me is that this guy decided to write a story to explain things after the fact, without any real evidence to back it up.

Since he's attributed to this 'Operation Thunderstorm', and there's no other source for it

It's kinda bunk.

Yes and as I've told you these people use Primany sources to prove what they claim so their enemies call them revisionists.

and yet you link us to their 'enemies', instead of primary sources?

sounds pretty revisionist to me.

I suggest you read some of David Irvings work to understand WW2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwFzm6rZH3o&t=3s

ya'll are movin' around too much

stick to one topic, clean it up

You linked to the Operation Thunderstorm bullshit which debunks itself. You linked to Bloody Sunday, which said that Germany was the aggressor