But can it do all of them together better?

Integration is a fundamental and important task. It's also one that is too easily ignored.

Okay so we'll still have project managers?

But probably not even that, if we get a general intelligence, it should be able to integrate with it's self just fine.

And we'll still have park rangers, and we'll still have artists, and we'll still have government...

I disagree.

You have a hundred tools, you're saying just one more tool will necessarily make them all work together? And know what to build?

there's lots of weird rivets in these things.

Well when we have proff one way or the other we'll see, but the point remains that general AI doesn't have to be better than us as the job, just have to make more sense economically than us.

It's not just "I take API1 and then it gets along with API2"

I know what you mean.

1. that's mostly true
2. it's not that different when you think about it. How do you define "better"

Economically better.

More cost effective.

Then the statement "general AI doesn't have to be better...just make more sense economically" is somewhere between contradictory and tautological.

I'm saying there's other niches and things.

And people will be as much a part of the AI system as the software itself.

Yes but niches aren't going to supply employment for the nation.

And you know this how?

Were you around in the 1st dot com boom?

Yes.

Napstar was amazng.

Then you remember how we were told that every store in the country was going to be dead.

The recording industry was going to die.

Most local stores did die, and the record industry hasn't sold more new music than old music 3 years running.

Sure, there's less profit in running stores now and the recording industry is not as all-powerful as it once was, but Wal-mart is still around Coffee shops are everywhere and there's more music now than ever.

Everyone is making way less money.

No one is buying music, at least no one under 40.

Or some extremely small subset of audiophiles.

Because their streaming instead.

It's a different equation but serves the same purpose.

And requires support staff as well.

Toys R Us, block buster, radio shack, circuit city, all dead.

As for local stores, that was being said about Wal-Mart.

Quit looking at just the businesses that died and look at some of the new ones.

like who?

Practically anything online for one.

Local stores.

The massive rise of resturants of every shape and size.

Okay I'll give you restaurants, but that's not a store.

Coffee shops are kind of the same thing too.

We're arguing classifications.

My point is that new opportunities arise.

People still want stuff, they just are limited in different ways.

That's not the same thing at all. Flint MI would be a better example of what happens when a cheep workforce take over from an experianced one.

Flint has it own litany of issues.

There are cities growing at the same time.

The main one is the automobile, steel, and manufacture moving out of the US.

I got to go.

Okay have a good one.

Real life stuff.

Indeed, more important.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMT1mnFMRf8

serious question, is the democratic party going to survive? perhaps in name only is I see a restructuring...

Barring any unforeseen disaster, I think they don't retake control of the house/Senate and get blown out in 2020. The 2020 loss will lead to reform of the party

Basically, I think what Styx thinks on this

what dan and styx said

Styx said it first. I go to Styx when I need to know what to think

link to said styx video?

@LotheronPrime he says it over several videos but the general idea is in this video https://youtu.be/1nNzxR1FINY

ahh ok I thought it was a specific video

I'm willing to bet the Democrats atleast take the house in 2018. They'll probably just double down further.

If the Republicans can catch new voters would be the real question. The majority of the Democratic party will stay intact.

I'm also skeptical of Trump winning 2020.

In part because I'm not sure the economy holds together that long.

But mostly because the Democrats just have energy and can play opposition.

So will the majority of the republican party, likely. Keep in mind the study that showed a majority of his voters had little to no exposure to the internet, what lost the democrats 2016, will lose them 2020 for sure, Democrats don't have a strong candidate (out of those they promote as potentially being such) and they often take no interest in going to the areas less affected by media exposure.

At this point, I think most of the voters the Repubilcans are going to shed will have happened by the end of the midterms, so I'll agree there.

I do think the Democrats will shatter after winning in 2020.

That's an if though, we'll have to see if they can produce a competent candidate.

Because their taste was observably flawed.

I'm looking at you, Mrs.Clinton.

I honestly can't think of a candidate more flawed than Clinton. I don't think it's possible for them to make that mistake again.

Like, literally would be impossible because it doesn't get worse.

If they manage it, it will be a very fun year.

IDK, I'm more focused on the midterms. People badly underestimate how much things like the house and governorships matter.

How the midterms play out will have direct effects on 2020.

Like, Mueller would have a completely free hand and go wild if the Dems take the house.

I don't know much about that, being Canadian. What I do know, is that Trump is the average american president, I still don't get how he's so different to his predecessors

He irritates all the wrong people and doesn't know how to handle his mouth, mostly.

All in all, he doesn't really do that much.

And his positions are fairly centrist, all things considered.

Exactly, he is the model American.

-_- cuz he can't handle his mouth?

about what everybody else expects, to be honest with you. I don't know many people that really care, when americans act like that. It's pretty much how america started, ask someone on the street if they find vandalism wrong, then compare it to the boston tea party. People who run their mouth have a place in this world. And the constitution is built to preserve them.

Personally, I'd like to see a couple more long rifles in that case...

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@pratel nah dude, as an outsider looking in and from what I know of America if the democrats continue leaning into socialism there is 0 chance of the Democrats winning.
ESPECIALLY if the Republicans capitalise on this exact thing and the illiberal nature of socialism/communism.

I'd be inclined to believe you, but we live in unusual times. I've also seen weirder things. Romney in 2012 polled better on basically every issue but still lost hard.

However if this was happening in my country (Australia) socialism would win over liberty because we have no ingrained freedom in my country

and it's slowly being eroded

Trump has incumbency advantage, but that's not a guarantee. Particularly if Mueller succeeds in finding something.

That's actually a scary thing for me. The Schools quit teaching freedom as an ideal about 20 years ago.

Holding office doesn't guarantee shit

It's actually a big part of why I think we're seeing the rise of social justice *now*. We've got a whole generation and a new one that doesn't really prize freedom anymore.

although I don't think there has been a single term presidency for a few decades

freedom is a dead ideology

The last single term was George HW Bush in 1988-1992.

and is why UKIP is rising in the UK

There you go

UKIPs rise in the United Kingdom is one of the most fascinating things I've ever seen in politics