The US has been remade before.

This is true

There is a discussion of secession from the crown happening in Australia right now

It would not be unbelievable that some kind of socialist groundswell could atleast turn it into somethign resembling a commonwealth country.

and that's one of the most frightening things for me to imagine at a time like this

Does the crown really matter that much?

not really

I got the impression that Australia was independent in all but name.

not at all

we still have a crown appointed Governor General

and that (i believe) holds favour in high courts

laws stopped being influenced by the crown a couple of decades ago

I'm just wondering what would change to where it's so scary.

Would it be a symbolic loss that might affect defense or trade relations for example?

If we were to secede from the crown

We would be open to our country losing all freedoms that are implied right now

We have too many far left radicals in the media, our left wing is spineless

Our greens are commies and hate freedom

We already have “hate speech” legislation

I think that describes the entire anglosphere to be honest.

The US just lost it's strongest, largest defender of free speech, which means it's probably only a matter of time before it gets limited. Said defender already lobbies against firearms.

Possibly

Who’s that?

ACLU

Not in america, people confuse anglosphere with commonwealth, quite a bit.

It's technically worse than a loss. They're going to probably turn their cannons on the 1st amendment directly.

This is our hate speech law

Offensive behaviour because of race, colour or national or ethnic origin
(1) It is unlawful for a person to do an act, otherwise than in private, if:

(a) the act is reasonably likely, in all the circumstances, to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or a group of people; and

@NETORAREMASSACRE I include US in anglosphere. It's all English-primary countries (including some upper class parts of India)

It’s the most subjective bs

It is part of the anglosphere, However, it seperated from the crown

Oh, I'm aware. I've seen editorials like this one: https://thoughtcatalog.com/tanya-cohen/2015/04/its-time-to-put-an-end-to-anti-choice-speech/

Literally discussing if abortion makes sense is "hate speech"

I don't really care what your stance is on abortion, discussing it is not something you just ban.

why it's weirder when US either bends to the church or the crown, it should be doing niether.

It’s so stupid man

The problem is the left rejects open discussion

Oh I know. Alot of that BS floats around the various "human rights" NGOs like Amnesty International.

"human rights" being a convenient mask to force behaviors. There's thousands recognized by the UN and they are all contradictory. So the tendency is to take whatever stance is convenient for the activist class.

@NETORAREMASSACRE how's the US bend to the church? The US has freedom of religion because it has never had any truly unified church whatsoever.

And Kennedy was highly controversial because it was feared he would bend the US to the will of the Pope.

(he didn't)

Previous candidates had a significant religious slant, as far as I am aware, and so does a significant portion of the current WH staff.

The human rights NGOs have lost their vision

Like the NAACP and ACLU

AND THE OTHER ONE

Soz caps

SPLC is the other one

SPLC is a scam.

It started out as a good and effective effort.

And I think that’s why there’s so many fake hate crimes

Like feminism they need a reason to exist

But eventually Morris Dees realized it was a real money maker.

Yeah, there've been some rumors the SPLC actually encourages hate groups to pop up so they can sue them.

Kinda like some hate groups have more FBI informants than actual members.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/28/morris-dees-splc-trump-southern-poverty-law-center-215312

This article is somewhat out of date. I heard somewhere they are up past a half-billion endowment and Morris Dees himself makes somewhere around 500k annually.

But even that is probably out of date at this point. The Left keeps pouring in money.

That’s nuts

How is that not something wide spread

Because you don't criticize the SPLC directly.

Unless you have nothing to lose.

It's like attacking Google. You're begging for retribution and character assasination.

That’s so fucked man

How are they able to get away with it

I mean, just look at the unions.

Admittedly, the ACLU has some relevance

They stand up for free speech

The head of the AFT attacks the principles and "the 1%" but she's pulling 300-400k last I checked.

In most cases... or at least they did

The ACLU is increasingly just a progressive arm. Which is why Tim (and I) were so upset when it more or less abandoned Free Speech.

Yeah I saw that video... I was pissed

There's really nothing more for the ACLU to bother defending (privacy, I guess, but there's other organizations with a much better understanding)

More upsettingly, the ACLU is going to start spending it's endowment *attacking* Free Speech in the future.

I'm pretty pissed with the ACLU.

Yeah that’s fucked... idk how more people aren’t angry about it... Does all this BS around the NRA have any credibility?

Some. Not all.

The Russia thing is probably forgivable or them in the clear.

I’ve heard they’re more or less a union for shooters and they protect the second

Russia thing?

The NRA is a massive complex organization with lots of parts.

Some Russian spy infiltrated the organization and rose to the top (money buys influence with these organizations). Her goal was to get in contact with US lawmakers via the NRA and she succeeded.

The Press is going ballistic. It's the NRA, Russia AND the Republicans all in one.

was that that good looking ranga chick?

Like, 3 birds, one shotgun.

You probably know her. She's all over the press right now.

the entire russia saga is the most retarded thing I've ever seen and the blatant attacks on the republicans is moronic.
I specifically avoid right wing news outlets and read a lot of CBS, other trash like that

As for the NRA itself, it's becoming known for it's legal department which fights to protect gun ownership and undo laws that would inhibit the right to own whatever guns people would want.

and they're moronic

yeah that's what I've heard the NRA is becoming which tbh isn't a bad thing

I'd recommend reading a right wing site or two. Balances things out a bit.

they just need to pick their battles.

It's actually a small part of the NRA.

Most of the NRA is for stuff that would might expect.

and I think I know the chick you're talking about

Firearms safety classes.

gun training and shit?

Yeah.

And supporting firing ranges.

And shooting sports.