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2018-05-28 16:06:36 UTC

also this is disturbing if true

2018-05-28 16:06:50 UTC

basically judge knew TR would be in danger, but didn't care... "so what"

2018-05-28 16:07:02 UTC

yeah i saw that... its slightly out of context but was stupid to say

2018-05-28 16:07:05 UTC

Enforcing that law in that case is ilegitimate

2018-05-28 16:07:25 UTC

because 1: There was no reason why the public should not know that the grooming happened

2018-05-28 16:07:34 UTC

and 2: I dont think Tommy was informed of this

2018-05-28 16:07:39 UTC

hes saying he doesnt care because he will be in protective custody the whole time

2018-05-28 16:07:55 UTC

"you could be put into protective custody"

2018-05-28 16:08:00 UTC

Whatโ€™s the difference between all the journalists outside the court when count dankula was being tried and the grooming gang case?

2018-05-28 16:08:03 UTC

not that he would

2018-05-28 16:08:24 UTC

I'd understand a gag law being enforced in a critical matter

2018-05-28 16:08:35 UTC

like an inminent terrorist attack or something

2018-05-28 16:08:40 UTC

I think the blackout was that there were so many defendants that they couldn't try them all at once and didn't want the outcome of the first trial affecting the second one

2018-05-28 16:08:54 UTC

hence the blackout

2018-05-28 16:09:04 UTC

but still, how would TR know he couldn't do what he did

2018-05-28 16:09:09 UTC

he was media

2018-05-28 16:09:14 UTC

he was covering an event

2018-05-28 16:09:18 UTC

and he got arrested

2018-05-28 16:09:25 UTC

prior record/shit be damned

2018-05-28 16:09:29 UTC

If he had been informed he wouldnt be in jail

2018-05-28 16:09:30 UTC

he knew, because thats what he was arrested for in the first place

2018-05-28 16:09:35 UTC

right

2018-05-28 16:09:37 UTC

I get that

2018-05-28 16:09:46 UTC

I dont think he knew

2018-05-28 16:09:52 UTC

he is not stupid

2018-05-28 16:10:00 UTC

if he knew he wouldnt have reported on it

2018-05-28 16:10:07 UTC

and I concede he probably did break whatever shit law / command / whatever, but it's still wrong

2018-05-28 16:10:12 UTC

maybe the first time... but not the second

2018-05-28 16:10:37 UTC

He didnt look like he had any idea that the law was in place for that case

2018-05-28 16:10:40 UTC

I get what you're saying wacka, but he's done a ton of shit that he could have since been arrested for if that's true

2018-05-28 16:11:00 UTC

its kinda like YT, you don't know what would cause you to be arrested...

2018-05-28 16:11:20 UTC

he hasnt done the thing that he was expressly told not to do since he was arrested for the same thing tthough

2018-05-28 16:11:21 UTC

He and his lawyer know exactly what he can do and say without getting arrested

2018-05-28 16:11:24 UTC

I do agree, as Sargon said, it was a poor choice

2018-05-28 16:11:53 UTC

mmhm I think there is something Im missing

2018-05-28 16:12:05 UTC

He knew he would be arrested?

2018-05-28 16:12:12 UTC

I don't think he did

2018-05-28 16:12:32 UTC

hes already been arrested for the exact same thing... I dont think he would just forget that

2018-05-28 16:12:39 UTC

but he probably knew it *could* get him arrested, not that he would have

2018-05-28 16:12:46 UTC

calculated risk that ended poorly I guess

2018-05-28 16:12:53 UTC

anyway

2018-05-28 16:13:08 UTC

again, we're discussing the semantics of a shitty law

2018-05-28 16:13:12 UTC

whatever law that is

2018-05-28 16:13:29 UTC

contempt of court

2018-05-28 16:13:35 UTC

Well just being himself could get arrested

2018-05-28 16:13:45 UTC

I'm a free speech absolutist and I believe we shouldn't even need to have this discussion

2018-05-28 16:14:06 UTC

on a public road (pretty sure), covering an event as a journalist

2018-05-28 16:14:09 UTC

Ok now that I think, the rest of the media left

2018-05-28 16:14:14 UTC

so he knew there was something going on

2018-05-28 16:14:26 UTC

I don't think the media was ever there

2018-05-28 16:14:35 UTC

whatever

2018-05-28 16:14:36 UTC

also, the gag order wasn't in place UNTIL he was arrested, right?

2018-05-28 16:14:43 UTC

the case is that he knew the media was missing for some reason

2018-05-28 16:15:05 UTC

So I guess they informed all the established media

2018-05-28 16:15:07 UTC

but not him

2018-05-28 16:15:22 UTC

and then they watched his stream and found the opportunity they were looking for

2018-05-28 16:15:32 UTC

it may have been ok for other media to go there... but he was expressly told he couldnt as part of his suspended sentence

2018-05-28 16:15:54 UTC

He could not report on anything related to Muslims?

2018-05-28 16:16:06 UTC

of course he could

2018-05-28 16:16:12 UTC

so just that case?

2018-05-28 16:16:12 UTC

hes been doing that forever

2018-05-28 16:16:22 UTC

no hes been reporting on that case too

2018-05-28 16:16:37 UTC

"but he was expressly told he couldnt as part of his suspended sentence"

2018-05-28 16:16:39 UTC

can u explain this

2018-05-28 16:16:51 UTC

but not right outside the building... which is mentioned in the act

2018-05-28 16:16:57 UTC

ah ok

2018-05-28 16:17:17 UTC

that seems arbitrary

2018-05-28 16:17:38 UTC

but yea I guess it wasnt a smart decision in his part

2018-05-28 16:17:50 UTC

unless he doesnt care for his well being as much as for his mission

2018-05-28 16:17:54 UTC

which is probably the case

2018-05-28 16:17:59 UTC

also in the beginning of the stream you could see him talking to the defendants layers

2018-05-28 16:18:01 UTC

in that case he has done a great job

2018-05-28 16:18:06 UTC

getting into it with them

2018-05-28 16:19:04 UTC

The way I see it he wants ppl to know about whats going on

2018-05-28 16:19:12 UTC

and by getting arrested he has achieved it

2018-05-28 16:19:21 UTC

way faster than he would have otherwise

2018-05-28 16:19:55 UTC

I dont think he knew he was gonna be arrested but he knew it was a posiblity

2018-05-28 16:20:09 UTC

he has said many times before that he will die for his cause

2018-05-28 16:20:19 UTC

thing is... and this may not be a pouplar opinion... but those guys on trial.. could... COULD be innocent

2018-05-28 16:20:39 UTC

that is irrelevant

2018-05-28 16:20:46 UTC

he was just reporting that the trial was going on

2018-05-28 16:20:51 UTC

not accusing them of anything

2018-05-28 16:20:54 UTC

as far as I know

2018-05-28 16:21:45 UTC

dude, he went on a 2 hr rant about grooming gangs... Im not saying they arent happening.. and if theyre guilty I hope they die in prison... but srsly

2018-05-28 16:22:06 UTC

whats the problem with that

2018-05-28 16:22:16 UTC

a trial about grooming

2018-05-28 16:22:19 UTC

he talks about grooming

2018-05-28 16:22:25 UTC

I dont see anything wrong with it

2018-05-28 16:22:49 UTC

He didnt say X person is a criminal

2018-05-28 16:23:41 UTC

ok.. so some guy gets accused of rape (lets say for argument hes innocent, but lets face it his life is over now) .. and he walks around outside the courthouse talking about "the patriarchy" and "sexual harassment" and rape... oh but its nothing to do with this case...

2018-05-28 16:24:05 UTC

so what

2018-05-28 16:24:09 UTC

is not ilegall

2018-05-28 16:24:10 UTC

a child could link them

2018-05-28 16:24:15 UTC

oh come on

2018-05-28 16:24:33 UTC

I would think he's a nut job and ignore

2018-05-28 16:24:48 UTC

and he's allowed to speak because 1A here in the US

2018-05-28 16:24:57 UTC

wacka you are reaching very far to try to say that he did something wrong

2018-05-28 16:25:10 UTC

The law is clear

2018-05-28 16:25:19 UTC

u cannot say X person is a criminal unless it has been proven

2018-05-28 16:25:31 UTC

otherwise u can talk about the topic as much as u want

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