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Pretty sure it's the same as yours.
Except my point is not going at it from a legislative standpoint.
Legislation creates roadblocks.
that lawsuit was because google was permitted to physically tamper with AT & Ts equipment which was technically illegal
You know this brings to mind a point.
How much crap's been tied to the net neutrality bill by this point?
The fact that the lawsuit stalls a potential competitor doesn't factor in at all?
"The Ordinance thus purports to permit a third party (the Attacher) to temporarily
seize AT&Tโs property, and to alter or relocate AT&Tโs property, without AT&Tโs consent and
with little notice" -from the lawsuit
Because my understanding of it is still "no fast lanes, all data must be treated equally."
Ties into the whole title 2 thing and how major ISPs were cutting people off of certain types of data arbitrarily.
Consider, for a moment, that their 'property' happens to be the cables, where they sit on the line.
Yeah.
okay, are you arguing with me orrrrrrr
Vaguely.
`Can we just have a discussion without it being an argument lol`
I don't get what you're trying to say
the lawsuit was filed because a competitor was allowed to tamper with their property without consent
What I'm saying is, the infrastructure as it exists are the power, telephone, and cable lines within a city.
To what degree were they tampering?
possibly seizing and relocating it
Are they referring to the lines?
which could have an affect on AT&Ts services
not the lines I think but certain modules
Because I don't think they could've possibly been relocating their stations or anything like that.
and also the poles themselves are AT&T property
Are they really? Huh.
I'd figure a neutral party would have to be in charge of those, like the city.
Nope.
And that's kind of the problem.
well, yeah.
It's a problem regardless of who owns them
Something something title 2 let them handle the infrastructure, including improvements, which they've basically been slacking on because there's no reason to whatsoever.
or, sorry, i think they own many modules attached to the poles
Like I said
And the companies have gotten so big that the little guy isn't going to be able to bring them down.
5 up
10 down
I'm living in the past.
Net neutrality is definitely ugly, if you don't trust the government.
I don't.
But that's the only patchwork solution we have right now.
and they were concerned because any disruption of their equipment could harm thousands of customers' service
Create a different solution then.
The other option is 5 up 10 down with the threat that you're getting 1 up 2 down for everything that isn't Approved by Comcastโข.
Because that's how everything seems to be poised to go.
Either that or them vacuuming up your data because there's no viable alternatives to the big 3.
that's entirely wrong dude
Many of the fears that you have about a lack of control with the FCC
removing net neutrality opens the door to competition and innovation, creating better service
the FTC already handles
abuses were handled before NN was established
and there rarely were abuses
there were like 4 but 3 of them were dismissed in court
ah-ha!
but you admit there WERE abuses!
Ban Fully Automatic Assault ISPs
Hmmm.
are u kekkin' on me rn fr
/sarcasm
i know vro
GEP what was that
I'm a little behind on the times. Wasn't aware they pushed the FTC as the replacement for net neutrality.
what are u saying vro
It was never pushed
it always existed.
FTC is the federal trade commission
I may have cited the wrong organization...
They've been doing a really shit job of it then.
are u kekkin'?
The warranty stickers thing was a great step in the right direction but their handling of ISPs has been shit at best.
uhhhm no
they're doing fine
Yeah. Artificial speed limits when there's no issues with throughput are totally great for the end consumer.
dude you are living in fantasy land
I can understand slowdown if there's huge amounts of data going all at the same time.
go read a huffpost article
5000ms and sub 1mb up/down because you weren't paying enough at the time.
And 20 or 30 phone calls doing nothing.
that is false
That ain't right.
I'm speaking from personal experience.
:okliberal:
Few years back on comcast. Parents stopped paying for the good service and went for the basic 5:1 service.
OH. JEEZE. IT JUST GOT REALLY ADHOM IN HERE.
Ain't that the fucking truth.
But yeah. They paid for the basic service. It was still comcast and it should've been 5:1.
So we got 0.1:0.01 instead.
It was a great time. Couldn't do anything. A basic 5mb torrent took two weeks to finish.
Comcast is a whole 'nother animal.
I'd like to see what was going on there
Comcast is just another ISP.
Well again.
It was only while we were paying for basic service.
Comcast is ~~just another~~ The Only ISP.
My mother eventually gave up because I kept complaining and the moment she switched services it went right back to being totally perfect with pings below 10ms.
Just flipped a switch.
We didn't even change modems.
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