Message from @RyeNorth
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due to lobbying.
In order to set up infrastructure
You generally have to have a city's permission.
Lobbying by who? It didn't happen to be due to direct influence by comcast or at&t's lawyers did it?
I have a whole google doc of evidence against net neutrality
Ah, I see where you're coming from.
Question though.
By your definition, what is net neutrality.
Pretty sure it's the same as yours.
Except my point is not going at it from a legislative standpoint.
Legislation creates roadblocks.
that lawsuit was because google was permitted to physically tamper with AT & Ts equipment which was technically illegal
You know this brings to mind a point.
How much crap's been tied to the net neutrality bill by this point?
The fact that the lawsuit stalls a potential competitor doesn't factor in at all?
"The Ordinance thus purports to permit a third party (the Attacher) to temporarily
seize AT&T’s property, and to alter or relocate AT&T’s property, without AT&T’s consent and
with little notice" -from the lawsuit
Because my understanding of it is still "no fast lanes, all data must be treated equally."
Ties into the whole title 2 thing and how major ISPs were cutting people off of certain types of data arbitrarily.
Yeah.
okay, are you arguing with me orrrrrrr
Vaguely.
`Can we just have a discussion without it being an argument lol`
I don't get what you're trying to say
the lawsuit was filed because a competitor was allowed to tamper with their property without consent
What I'm saying is, the infrastructure as it exists are the power, telephone, and cable lines within a city.
To what degree were they tampering?
possibly seizing and relocating it
Are they referring to the lines?
which could have an affect on AT&Ts services
not the lines I think but certain modules
Because I don't think they could've possibly been relocating their stations or anything like that.
and also the poles themselves are AT&T property
Are they really? Huh.
I'd figure a neutral party would have to be in charge of those, like the city.
Nope.
And that's kind of the problem.
well, yeah.