Message from @RyeNorth

Discord ID: 442931902085857281


2018-05-07 06:08:45 UTC  

The fact that the lawsuit stalls a potential competitor doesn't factor in at all?

2018-05-07 06:08:53 UTC  

"The Ordinance thus purports to permit a third party (the Attacher) to temporarily
seize AT&T’s property, and to alter or relocate AT&T’s property, without AT&T’s consent and
with little notice" -from the lawsuit

2018-05-07 06:08:58 UTC  

Because my understanding of it is still "no fast lanes, all data must be treated equally."

2018-05-07 06:09:34 UTC  

Ties into the whole title 2 thing and how major ISPs were cutting people off of certain types of data arbitrarily.

2018-05-07 06:09:46 UTC  

Consider, for a moment, that their 'property' happens to be the cables, where they sit on the line.

2018-05-07 06:09:59 UTC  

are you talking to me @RyeNorth

2018-05-07 06:10:05 UTC  

Yeah.

2018-05-07 06:10:21 UTC  

okay, are you arguing with me orrrrrrr

2018-05-07 06:10:28 UTC  

Vaguely.

2018-05-07 06:10:33 UTC  

`Can we just have a discussion without it being an argument lol`

2018-05-07 06:10:34 UTC  

I don't get what you're trying to say

2018-05-07 06:11:01 UTC  

the lawsuit was filed because a competitor was allowed to tamper with their property without consent

2018-05-07 06:11:01 UTC  

What I'm saying is, the infrastructure as it exists are the power, telephone, and cable lines within a city.

2018-05-07 06:11:21 UTC  

To what degree were they tampering?

2018-05-07 06:11:38 UTC  

possibly seizing and relocating it

2018-05-07 06:11:55 UTC  

Are they referring to the lines?

2018-05-07 06:11:55 UTC  

which could have an affect on AT&Ts services

2018-05-07 06:12:23 UTC  

not the lines I think but certain modules

2018-05-07 06:12:26 UTC  

Because I don't think they could've possibly been relocating their stations or anything like that.

2018-05-07 06:12:49 UTC  

and also the poles themselves are AT&T property

2018-05-07 06:13:14 UTC  

Are they really? Huh.

2018-05-07 06:13:31 UTC  

I'd figure a neutral party would have to be in charge of those, like the city.

2018-05-07 06:13:39 UTC  

Nope.

2018-05-07 06:13:43 UTC  

And that's kind of the problem.

2018-05-07 06:13:48 UTC  

well, yeah.

2018-05-07 06:14:02 UTC  

It's a problem regardless of who owns them

2018-05-07 06:14:13 UTC  

Something something title 2 let them handle the infrastructure, including improvements, which they've basically been slacking on because there's no reason to whatsoever.

2018-05-07 06:14:26 UTC  

or, sorry, i think they own many modules attached to the poles

2018-05-07 06:14:26 UTC  

Like I said

2018-05-07 06:14:27 UTC  

And the companies have gotten so big that the little guy isn't going to be able to bring them down.

2018-05-07 06:14:28 UTC  

5 up

2018-05-07 06:14:29 UTC  

10 down

2018-05-07 06:14:35 UTC  

I'm living in the past.

2018-05-07 06:14:41 UTC  

Net neutrality is definitely ugly, if you don't trust the government.

2018-05-07 06:14:48 UTC  

I don't.

2018-05-07 06:14:50 UTC  

But that's the only patchwork solution we have right now.

2018-05-07 06:14:56 UTC  

and they were concerned because any disruption of their equipment could harm thousands of customers' service

2018-05-07 06:15:00 UTC  

Create a different solution then.

2018-05-07 06:15:19 UTC  

The other option is 5 up 10 down with the threat that you're getting 1 up 2 down for everything that isn't Approved by Comcast™.

2018-05-07 06:15:36 UTC  

Because that's how everything seems to be poised to go.

2018-05-07 06:15:47 UTC  

Either that or them vacuuming up your data because there's no viable alternatives to the big 3.