And actually swapping parties is two votes for that party.

Two party system sucks

The only way a third party can be viable is if they manage to, on their very first go, manage to win.

it *can* happen

but yeah

Yeah it kind of did happen in gb

@Somi to prevent a government position being seen as a reward maybe we should stick 'em in a barracks and feed them only cafeteria food.

With liberal Democrats

At one point

And in that case, they'd simply replace either of the two original parties in the long term.

I ahte this line of arguement that a vote for a third is vote for the other. How do you think the UK got their Brexit ref? It was coz of the growth in votes for UKIP. Everyone that voted for them knew they would never win but the message was sent. Politics is a long game.

It's simply a matter of fact that that's the case, Poppy.

It is, in the US.

It's called the spoiler effect, look it up. It's a problem inherent to the first-past-the-post voting system.

Yup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo

Here, CGP Grey did a video about the problems with the system

good ol' CGP

Well in us

You have bernie and progressive wave comming

I'm not certain we do.

I wonder how big splash it will make in the end

Participation in Republican primaries absolutely swept away democrat participation in most areas

RyeCast, I wouldn't underestimate the JD

JD?

Justice Democrats.

ugh, that's a doublespeak name if ever I've seen one.

Lol

Agreed

But i would not underestimate them

thank Kyle Kulinskie for it. Super hero movies were big at the time 😉

I like kyle but the name is 100% cringe

His coverage of the election was top notch but he is swimming against the tide with the 'progressives'

Well he certainly is better then young turks

Secular Talk is respectable. I’ve certainly got no beef with Kyle.

TYT is fun when something happens tha causes Chunk to have a mental breakdown

TYT is fun to laugh at. That is true. If you watch their livestream chat it’s like 90% hate watchers

I can't even hate watch TYT

Yeah i pretty much gave up on them at this point too

At least when i watch Jimmy Dore i feel he is genuine

But TyT is just shill fest now

Agreed.

I used to watch TYT a lot.

I stopped around the time of the Sam Harris interview they had.

That really bugged me.

I think that was about the time they really started to lose all self awareness, or maybe I just started to notice it.

I dono, i started having my suspicions when they named themselves after the perpetrators of a genocide

Ima start a news agency, ima call it the nazi's, its gonna be very lefty but also lots of hating on jews for some reason

“ Google is labeling a Trump supporting Republican state senator a “ Bigot” “ by Alex Thompson on Vice

Isn’t it interesting that google keeps making these mistakes, but only in one direction?🤔

http://archive.today/qVhGS

lmao

"you can not offend the maus people"

tim getting more and more redpilled by the day

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-FcfkL4XSHBA%2FU2W1YKvTwXI%2FAAAAAAAABBM%2Feix1gaeyoDo%2Fs1600%2FMaus_2_001c.jpg&f=1

@Deleted User in this particular case i would assume it's just a bot that hasn't been coded to reject images with captions

but in other cases it seems plausible to me that if tech firms are based in and recruiting from extremely liberal cities, that the biases that manifest in them are liberal

Left wing politician have negative caption pictures, are they up? I haven seen any.

like if you're forming a company in san francisco regardless of what that company does or sells it's going to have to have a liberal bias by default simply because the people that comprise the company are so much more likely to be liberals.

Sure.

That’s exactly right

i haven't seen any either, but i don't think that these knowledge panels are created by humans

they might be occasionally glanced at by humans to make sure they're more or less sane, but not created

it also appears as if her wikipedia entry was vandalized recently https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Trudy_Wade&action=history

If that were true it seems like we would see more events like this with all kinds of captions. Funny that this is the one that slips though the cracks.

Yeah, people are messing with this on the Wikipedia end.

the wikipedia edit seems to have been after the google knowledge panel caption was noticed

maybe the bigot image was googlebombed to the top

should be an easy fix for google's algorithm though. google can easily detect text in an image and reject it.

speaking to the larger issue of bias in tech firms, one trend that might help is the skyrocketing cost of living in california. given how mature communications technology is today there's no good reason to keep all your developers physically in the same city, and there are tons of economic incentives to moving to less population dense areas.

if you have to have an office, why not have it in utah? or rural texas? and why not let devs from all over the country work remotely?

it'll save money, and break up a lot of the group-think.

of course the trend in tech firms isn't telecommuting but building company towns. basically slave plantations for H1Bs where they work a few hundred meters from where they eat and sleep.

so i'm not optimistic that telecommuting will change the big firms (the left put a lot of effort into capturing them and aren't going to give that up easily). but smaller firms are not going to build traditional offices in california simply because they can't afford it anymore.

lol I watched that Rip'n Chicken review. I have to watch it again now to try to determine why it could possibly have been flagged.

He's so completely harmless.

Like Mr. Rogers tier harmless.

I don't agree that there is no reason at all to keep all your staff in the same city, I work for a large corp and we have 3 large offices around the same city and even that 1 hour travel time between the offices can make it difficult to have productive meetings, and when your team is larger than about 10 people everyone jumping onto a video conf can still be less than productive, just watch any online debate of more than 5-6 people and it can turn into a shitfight

in such large voice conferences, have software that has one person in control of the meeting who can enable or disable the microphones of others. there's no need to interrupt or interject. people at the meeting should be listening to what each other are saying, not looking for an opportunity to take control of the conversation.

but most communication doesn't need to use such a format.

if it's a 2-4 way conversation there's no need for such formality, and there might not be any need for voice at all.

i just think it's silly that companies that are ostensibly dedicated to new communication mediums are addicted to face-to-face conversations and refuse to use new technologies.

what you're talking about is for presentations, if there's people in the meeting with no input to provide they're wasting their time being there

so if you go into it saying everyone's mic is disabled you're basically saying their input isn't needed... if you go to a school room raise your hand to talk then meetings are very slow and take longer than they need

not saying their input isn't needed, but that they can and should wait a few minutes to give it instead of interrupting someone else

might just be my personal preference, but i hate listening to debates where people keep interrupting each other

impossible for someone to get a complete thought out before someone else forcibly interjects.

but already you're describing something that wouldn't happen in a normal conversation.... some people need to be interrupted, they're overly verbose or go off on tangents, i see it all the time no one in the room cares what the person is saying because its irrelevant to the topic

I've been good friends of about 10 years with the guy I now work for he's always spending 15 minutes covering something that should take 5, everyone knows it, he knows it so people interrupt and say yeah we all get it, next topic

but when I dial into the meeting, that's hard if not impossible to do because you can't read the room and see if people do in fact get it

yeah, that's why there's one person in charge of the meeting who controls the mics

yeah, its the manager of the team who has the problem, so not a good solution

well, i'd say a bigger problem is forcing developers to live in trailers because they can't afford rent where the meetings are held

yeah that doesn't happen where I live, the opposite is true we don't have enough desks for everyone to work from the office, housing isn't a premium but office space

i'm not talking about where you live then. i'm talking about where all the big tech firms are located where the cost of living is ridiculous.

my original point was that big tech firms have an inordinate amount of control over media, and that they are biased ideologically because their employees are all from one or two extremely liberal cities. the argument i was trying to make was that the cost of living in these cities might force the companies to disperse geographically, thereby alleviating some of the ideological bias.

teleconferencing technology is just something that enables that. i'm not advocating that everyone everywhere should only teleconference.

as an example, reddit. reddit has 230 employees, and their office is in san francisco. now there's a certain number of those employees that have to be there physically because there is hardware they have to work on. but there's a lot of those employees that really have no need to cart their meat into a physical office. the labor they do can be just as easily done from anywhere else, and it would be a cost savings for everyone involved if they worked remotely.

chicken is racist

California is racist😂
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2018/05/31/number-one-in-poverty-california-isnt-our-most-progressive-state-its-our-most-racist-one/#1ba85f3a5cd9

some people arent doing as well... and some of those people not doing well are not white... therefore racism... its so clear to me now

Typical democrats. Enslaving their voters while whispering in their ear that they're winning. So devious.