Even if it does, which I don't think it does, you're going to tell a population that they can't separate themselves from you rule? How is that not tyranny at that point?

How are we different from Russia?

the fact you think we're different than Russia is mistake nr.1

I'm not saying we are.

I'm just pointing out for the sake of comparison.

like it doesent really matter, when has a law stopped someone from breaking a law?

you are though

i do believe there is a method to legally leave the union but i may be wrong, and that doesn't mean the government will uphold it

The average person thinks the US is different from Russia, so I was speaking on those terms.

Don't tell me what I think or believe, please.

the law isn't there as a shield that prevents stuff,
Its a piece of paper that lets you know what you shouldn't do if you don't want government response

californias dependency on the states is kind of holding them back more than anything else but they could try to solve that problem

the us is different from russia like the head of a coin is different from the tail

@JadenFrostwolf you mean me? i was not trying to tell you what you think, i was stating that the US is different from Russia

i meant my statement more as a general "those that think we're different from Russia" not directly at "You, jadenfrostwolf, why do youthink thissssss"

i also kinda just want california to be its own country

Alright.

like i dont wanna live with them anymore xD

https://newcaliforniastate.com/

relevant

to be fair, they should,
Then the rest of the states can declare war, conquer it, remove the SJW's and illegals, and re-annex it back

they would be a better country that depends on the usa to survive than actually being able to influince our elections

eh its not that simple, 22 million sjws is hard to get rid of

"Statement of Intent
The Citizens of New California have decided to remedy the abuse of power by the government of California by exercising their right to form a new state provided in United States Constitution Article IV Sections 3 and Section 4."

yeah i like new california too, but not as much as no california

that is a split of california into two states isn't it?

"Statement of Facts: The people of California are suffering from a tyrannical state government which fails to provide a republican form of governance, enables and supports across it’s southern border the invasion of the United States of America by illegal foreign nationals and protects vicious criminals who commit outrageous acts of violence upon the Citizens of America. All caused by a government of and for a mono party system lead by a tyrannical dictator."

i do enjoy them

place is beautiful dont get me wrong, but i hate the people there. their contempt for everything valuible culturally and moraly to me is beyond tolerable to me

i like their map, that shows only like a few places as still being California

https://newcaliforniastate.com/new-california-map

i like mexico more than california

mexico atleast has good art

What's the difference? <:Kappa:327142715592540171>

mexicans work harder than californians lets be frank

wait, combined this with that article from yesterday

and i must preference i mean costal californians

if this new California passes, and Cali sets the trends, does that mean in 15 years the US will double the number of states, lmao

most of cali is full of decent people but the population centers have half the population in only 1/5 the geography

to be fair, if new california passes, it will ensure Republican rule for the next generation

because the dems will lose their biggest voting state forever

part of me likes republican rule but im already getting tired to trump

hes been a real dumbass this year

will they? i mean, wouldn't what remains of the old cali still be most of the population in that state as is?

lets face it, we all knew trump was gonna be a buffoon. Its really the next person people are interested in

new california will be redder than any state in the union though because thats what happens with political divides

trump didn't win, Hillary lost.

there is a difference

new cali might become more Texan than Texas

i really wanna get out of the middle east, that place is a fucking hole

the only time they unite, is to fight foreigners.

they are perfectly capable of killing each other without our help

they were doing that just fine before then

on that front

theres nothing i care about there, yeah the history is nice and all that archeology is cool but god damn if it isint just the most meaningless war weve ever been in

we should never have gone to middle east in the first place

maybe we need an antiwar march

i'd vote to help build a wall around it

we havent done one of those in forever

right now, anti-war is sexist

xD

WAIT! lets get the sjw's together to call our involvement in the middle east Islamophobic,

maybe then we will stop dumping money into there

also screw paying for the wall, just nuke the area, get rid of all the middle east,

Fix the islam issue,
Fix the migrant flow
Fix the oil dispute (cuz the radiation wil keep anyone away until we replace fuel)

something everyone rallys behind would help

....or it will go from military spending to "foreign aid" spending

i mean i cant point to a single person who isint in the government who actually wants us to be in the middle east

@Dr.Wol won't keep away russia tho

true, they'll just send an army of gopniks

except one retard i know in australia who thinks neoliberalism is gods gift to economy

they live off radiation like super mutants

but i agree with you guys,

4chan should become pro-war for Syria

that way, CNN will report on it

i think the main reason lots of republicans dont do an anti-war march is that they will have a problem doing anything that would ever be seen as anti-military. a pro-military anti-war thing is kinda what we need

and the entire left in America will become anti-war again

i think being anti-war is pretty pro-military, keeps our soldiers alive

tbh, a pro-isolationist movement is what America needs,

You still need a military to defend your borders,
Stop being the world-police, it will save lives and money

and you can continue trading

sort of anti-interventionalist

yeah

but also just less whining about what other countries should be doing

just look out for your own interests

like pretty much every country should be doing

EU should do it too

thats why i said isolationist, pretty much you "Y'all crazy idiots can blow each other up, just keep US out of it"

i think if the us pulls back the world will go to war with itself. which i dont actually think is a bad thing, i think weve just been preventing 100 years of countrys acting in their own interest

well they should, let the extremists and warmongers kill each other

if the us pulls back, the EU will implode

good

i'm tired of the EU as is, their forceful acceptance of enriching peaceful cultures is shitting us over

no more US supplying security, they will be forced to pay more for their own military, which means more of a money drain on them

yes

so either they become less socialist or just become unstable

and with that, they'll no longer be "oh we got money, we can afford these migrants"

They'll actually have to focus on their own people

actualyl do some work

cuz people here are under the impression somehow

that we can't work together unless we're all the same union

as opposed to just working together as allies

man that was poorly worded by me

working together as individual countries, instead of a single collective?

because being "allies" is bad after that whole, axis vs allies, situation.