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2018-01-10 08:37:30 UTC

ya I would cut them down to only one tax ๐Ÿ˜‰

2018-01-10 08:37:47 UTC

that would be 0% under me

2018-01-10 08:38:01 UTC

A lot of people don't realize that the wealthy pay over half of the taxes the US government gets from the population every year.

2018-01-10 08:38:08 UTC

Eh we still need a governent in place

2018-01-10 08:38:13 UTC

if you tax the income then CEOs would pay themselves minimal

2018-01-10 08:38:31 UTC

And wed need taxes to keep it running. But yeah make it like a service I guess.

2018-01-10 08:39:05 UTC

only because humans are a tribal people that are lawless in nature and don't care about the community in some areas

2018-01-10 08:39:55 UTC

I mean, I may be partial to anarchy, but Id still like someone around to keep order

2018-01-10 08:40:17 UTC

The US kinda does it well? People can look out for themselves, and have the govt to watch them.

2018-01-10 08:40:31 UTC

I'm not sure that's anarchy so much as libertarianism: believing in small government, not a lack of it.

2018-01-10 08:40:46 UTC

Yeah, but I wasnt sure if libertarianism was left or right

2018-01-10 08:40:56 UTC

I mean the ISideWith did say that I am libertarian

2018-01-10 08:41:14 UTC

Liberty-Authoritharian isnt really a left/right thing right?

2018-01-10 08:41:16 UTC

Actually, you can be a libertarian left or right. It's the opposite of authoritarianism, which can also be left or right.

2018-01-10 08:41:22 UTC

https://youtu.be/3OAWEk9EIzg Anarcho Capitalism For Dummies

2018-01-10 08:41:31 UTC

libertarian in center

2018-01-10 08:41:55 UTC

libertarian, authoritarian is south/north respectivly

2018-01-10 08:42:13 UTC

Did you take the political compass? I think that's the most popular one that most people use.

2018-01-10 08:42:48 UTC

I was right/south but mostly in the center iirc

2018-01-10 08:43:06 UTC

I was bottom/left, mostly toward the middle.

2018-01-10 08:43:21 UTC

I did take the political test as well.

2018-01-10 08:43:29 UTC

I was right/Liberty

2018-01-10 08:44:08 UTC

actually lemme look again

2018-01-10 08:44:13 UTC

I'm actually with the right on a lot of fiscal policies and ideas.

2018-01-10 08:44:28 UTC

Yeah rightwing libertarian

2018-01-10 08:44:44 UTC

Lol, listed as extremely rightwing and strongly libertarian

2018-01-10 08:44:54 UTC

I doubt this server would have any center left or more

2018-01-10 08:45:05 UTC

I assumed most here were center

2018-01-10 08:45:15 UTC

Well, Tim himself is center left, if I recall.

2018-01-10 08:45:41 UTC

And I considered myself mostly center as well, so I was kinda surprised when I got extreme right wing

2018-01-10 08:45:47 UTC

I think the important thing is being towards the center. lol

2018-01-10 08:45:51 UTC

I mean true left to alt left

2018-01-10 08:46:02 UTC

Oh.

2018-01-10 08:46:03 UTC

right is conservative, left is liberal

2018-01-10 08:46:04 UTC

ISideWith also has alot of other axes as well to compare

2018-01-10 08:46:23 UTC

Well, I just kinda feel that the liberal lable has be kinda tainted

2018-01-10 08:46:40 UTC

I mean, now when I hear liberal, i think pussy hat wearing feminists

2018-01-10 08:46:43 UTC

and soyboys

2018-01-10 08:46:49 UTC

ya, by antifa/blm/bamn

2018-01-10 08:47:04 UTC

I mean, one thing is to not judge a movement by its worst members

2018-01-10 08:47:05 UTC

or KKK all from the left

2018-01-10 08:47:07 UTC

but theres so many members

2018-01-10 08:47:08 UTC

I didn't like a lot of the questions of the "ISideWith" website, since a lot of the options to choose from I didn't agree with, or the questions were worded in such a way where I could not answer them the way I wanted to.

2018-01-10 08:47:17 UTC

Yeah I had that issue as well

2018-01-10 08:47:34 UTC

they do try to put in more options that are not either/or

2018-01-10 08:47:45 UTC

ya, that is why you take a multitude and take an average

2018-01-10 08:48:00 UTC

I mean, as well ,the strongly to cant care less part

2018-01-10 08:48:02 UTC

Plus, a lot of them were specific to exact policies and ideas that I am not quite educated on and know little about.

2018-01-10 08:48:16 UTC

Those you could leave blank or put couldnt care less about

2018-01-10 08:48:36 UTC

I think they factor your care on the subject to the actual score

2018-01-10 08:48:57 UTC

Heh, yeah, about that...

2018-01-10 08:49:06 UTC

Let's just say I've been called both a racist and an SJW.

2018-01-10 08:49:12 UTC

I guess I'm doing something right then?

2018-01-10 08:49:20 UTC

yes

2018-01-10 08:49:22 UTC

Eh, styx, sargon, tim, they all had that

2018-01-10 08:49:28 UTC

that would mean you are more center

2018-01-10 08:49:36 UTC

Ive been compared to alt right, but never an SJW.

2018-01-10 08:49:43 UTC

because the sides repel you

2018-01-10 08:50:05 UTC

I mean, the alt right are just as cringy as the SJWs, just that you dont hear of them much

2018-01-10 08:50:17 UTC

Like, I wouldn't necessarily join with or side with the alt right, but I do think they bring up some fine points -- it's often their solutions to the problems I disagree with.

2018-01-10 08:50:18 UTC

Just people carrying a label.

2018-01-10 08:50:49 UTC

I dunno, at least the alt right will talk to you, at least *try* to strike up a conversation.
They won't beat you with clubs and bike locks for having a conservative thought.

2018-01-10 08:50:54 UTC

I am more like, i respect their right to speak as much as they should respect mine to mock them if they say something I find silly.

2018-01-10 08:50:59 UTC

you don't hear about the alt right because the left removes their free speech (google, silicon valley)

2018-01-10 08:51:27 UTC

Or the fact that they know how important it is to behave since everyone keeps a tight eye on them

2018-01-10 08:51:29 UTC

Plus, they're not the ones with the social power right now.

2018-01-10 08:51:53 UTC

I mean, would it be accurate to say that they are a symtom as well?

2018-01-10 08:52:07 UTC

Of people tired of being sidelined.

2018-01-10 08:52:22 UTC

The alt right? I would say their sudden resurgence has largely been a response to the hard left, yes.

2018-01-10 08:52:25 UTC

yes, they would be considerd an ultru conservative if you analize their POV

2018-01-10 08:53:05 UTC

At the very least listen to them. Hell, I remember some people saying that even the neo nazis were friendlier.

2018-01-10 08:53:22 UTC

The "leaders" of the alt right have even said that they are fine with how the left is conducting itself. They wouldn't have the left do anything different, since it's bringing people right into their arms.

2018-01-10 08:53:23 UTC

Like theyd call you an idiot, but will ask if you want to chat or debate sometime

2018-01-10 08:53:29 UTC

as waves apear peaks are easier to see than a calm surface

2018-01-10 08:54:05 UTC

and the left shouts hate speech and wants you in jail

2018-01-10 08:54:54 UTC

meaning you strongly support policies that promote economic freedom and a society based on morals and values

2018-01-10 08:54:58 UTC

is this what rightwing means?

2018-01-10 08:54:58 UTC

At the very least the alt right respects free speech, for the most part, whereas antifa and groups like that will just beat you once one of their number labels you as a fascist.

2018-01-10 08:55:03 UTC

Took that from the ISideWIth

2018-01-10 08:55:19 UTC

The altright appreciates it, cause it still gives them a voice

2018-01-10 08:55:21 UTC

Doesn't matter if they're right or not. If one points at you and yells 'fascist!' the rest will just dogpile onto you.

2018-01-10 08:55:33 UTC

They know that without it, they are nothing

2018-01-10 08:55:56 UTC

Hmm on a different topic, when they say morals however

2018-01-10 08:56:12 UTC

do they mean like, ban vices ala sharia law?

2018-01-10 08:56:13 UTC

tbh i get really annoyed when people label progressives and the far left as liberal

2018-01-10 08:56:26 UTC

I mean, real liberals really should.

2018-01-10 08:56:34 UTC

Yeah, they've kind of taken that term for themselves when they're not really liberal.

2018-01-10 08:56:45 UTC

but real liberals actually exist

2018-01-10 08:56:47 UTC

Like now no distinction between classical lib or progressive

2018-01-10 08:56:59 UTC

maybe you aren't looking hard enough

2018-01-10 08:56:59 UTC

They do, but they are outshadowed by the ones with the microphones

2018-01-10 08:57:11 UTC

Not everyone got the time.

2018-01-10 08:57:26 UTC

how would you define progressive? it sounds like that is a third axis to me

2018-01-10 08:57:30 UTC

And maybe if they were hard to find, they might not be as significant.

2018-01-10 08:57:42 UTC

Not saying they are not significant.

2018-01-10 08:57:44 UTC

i mean it's more of that everyone is at mercy of an algorithm that just want's you glued to a screen

2018-01-10 08:57:57 UTC

Hmm, tim did actually discuss that.

2018-01-10 08:58:07 UTC

Fuck man, rip if Tim tries to have a convo here.

2018-01-10 08:58:16 UTC

Cause he is the man

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