someone who claims to not know what they are talking about... has no right to claim to know who they should listen to either.

because they don't know in the first place what they are talking about

is that simple enough for you

that is how people manipulate in the first place

ffs

that doesn't make sense though

Tiger is getting on my nerves. He is starting to curse at people and belittling people... show me a little respect and I will return the favor. Call me a idiot, retard, or dumb and you will be blocked.

and i disagree.

if you don't know a specialty, you shouldn't claim to think someone is smart on that subject

people have a right to their opinions, even when nonsensical

you have no idea if they know what they know

That isn't debating, that is attacking someone.

ffs

you fucking morons

that is me attacking you

luckily for you i am not manipulating you

if i was, i would praise your brilliance

oh shit

I will unblock him tomorrow, I don't want to sit here and read that I am retarded or dumb over and over.

you hurt his feelings

https://thehardtimes.net/harddrive/mueller-just-going-to-grind-a-few-more-levels-before-final-boss-fight

the mob of morons

please someone

*'Saturn is losing its rings at 'worse-case-scenario' rate'* oh no senpai Saturn 😔 😭

this is why we can't have nice things

call teh presses

He didn't hurt my feelings, I just don't want to deal with him being a dick.

someone got hurt on the internet

and he wants apologies!

if i seem like a dick you're just a pussy

I rather debate him when he calms the fuck down.

oh no, the calm the fuck down argument

instead of listening to my point and addressing it, you cry

Dusty is one of those peoples that thinks religious people are all stupid and morally deficient and retarded.
but he doesnt like it when someone is mean on the internet

this is why socipaths move on to just subjegating you

they just move on to taking advantage of idiots and making a profit

"they dont get logic and they don't like the truth, so let's just fuck them over with manipulation, they deserve it"

then you get people like me as teenagers who fight them for YOU

then I grow up and realize hey maybe they're not wrong

because you're fucking DUMB

is that your opinion?

fucking cunt

not even willing to reason

Because, my opinion is that you have a right to that opinion, yours disagrees.

Fucking cunt <:NPC:500042527231967262>

Your opinion

is that everyone has a right

to their opinion

NO SHIT

That is the most basic

What is your fucking point

You are basically saying you don't care

so why even talk

Because you were arguing against that.

Ad hominem arguments are not valid pls

No... I don't think religious people are stupid. When an person of religion is trying to shove their religion down my throat and call me retard for respecting science that has invented new technology based on their concepts and has SHOWN evidence for their theories.... yeah I will place it above religion.

I just hold one in higher regard over the other.

science

what is science, dusty

do i agree? maybe.. do i disagree? maybe not. who knows.. because i sure do

if you examine a leaf and see the veins and the transparency and the colors, that is science to a degree

who is shoving religion down your throat?

If people in the religious community shows PROOF, then I will take them seriously.

what religious community

And the bible isn't proof.

all religions hate eachother

proof of what?

Proof of the existence of a higher being.

who was just talking about big bang being all science and facts, and undeniable? but couldnt explain shit about it?

I already have proof via logic

I hate proof by faith

Dusty, do you even know what people mean with "higher being" ?

no you dont

@Aghost that was tiger i think

i would agree if i didnt disagree because i disagree to agree with agreeing to disagree with you

Is that a claim they are making?

@Dusty Morgan u can't prove it exists or doesn't

faith by logic is sound, as is what makes anyone believe in science

otherwise they believe by authority which is illogical

which is most people

i agree

i'd say the vast majority that believes in "science" believes because they think they're dumb, but scientists must be smart

yet they have no faculty to decide whether it's true or not

do i agree? yes. i do.. maybe..

@Xombii butt do u agree

anyone who goes with the appeal to authority fallacy is a second-rate human being in my eyes

trust me, im not a bot 👌🥓😆🥓👌 i just agree.

The big bang is a rapid inflation/expansion/explosion of space time that expanded the known universe at the time within a trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a second.

You can call it whatever you will... but was the birth of this universe.

fucking bullshit theory science fiction nonsense

you watched too many tv shows

you have no idea

atheists and religious people use different languages for the same things.
the big difference in belief is just that one thinks there are set rules, and the other thinks rules just happened to be that way.
thats the only significant difference

but... the dumb atheists and dumb religious people like to prove to other dumb atheists and religious people, that the other side is dumb

do i agree? who knows? i know. do you know? i dont know.

So space wizard creating space from nothing is more logical

Both sound incredibly stupid

who said a space wizard was god

What was before God then.

you're actually making an equivalent

nothing

look

I'm not reliigous

religious*

answer me this query raised by Socrates before ranting again

But as socrate says *insert quote* so god before god

for another ten minutes

fuck

"If there was once nothing"

well the answer is obvious

there never was nothing

"So too would there still be nothing"

and thats what science revealed.

"If there was once something"

"so too is there still something"

Ergo

interesting question..

Reality and existence and being is eternal

i agree with that statement

It's a never ending cycle of what was first the egg or the chicken

@Gilgamesh well yeah it is.

or do i? 😆🤔

i believe god, always was, and always is, a metaphor for somethat that is really really hard to be put into words. most arguments about religion/atheism is just stupid noise about nothing

the universe in its current state has allways existed

God isn't necessary

Listen close

That Socrates quote doesn't necessitate God

It necessitates an eternal reality

😱

https://www.space.com/29517-is-the-big-bang-cycling-through-time.html

However

@Dusty Morgan it isnt.

>space.com

It also implies that time has already happened an infinite number of times

Eternal time lines have happened

@Gilgamesh it doesnt

Already

Yes it does

If there was always something

Then it's always happened

Ergo

God eventually happened

and "always" is 13.7 billion years

Fucking shut up

@Dusty Morgan stop trying to shove your religion down our throats

theres only two types of scoot fucks

🛴🛵

13.7 billion years is not eternity you simple minded fuck

*Rolls eyes.*

I'm shocked

JUST TWO. no more, no less

@Gilgamesh yeah it is

You fucking troll

I can't believe anyone would think that is eternity

you wasted my time enough

suck dick

who fucking troll? @Gilgamesh

@Gilgamesh only if its the dick of a girl then maybe i will

👌😱😆

Science doesnt make any claims about god, because it cant.
but atheists do

@Xombii socrates was

a scoot fuck is diffrent than a scooter. 🛴 this is a scooter 🛵 this is a scoot fuck

@Aghost I haven't done any claim personally as an atheist, just said i don't believe in it

so... san francisco is getting hit with feces laden giant waves atm

yes

I said I will believe in the existence of god if I am shown tangible proof that he exist. Something I can look at, touch, and come back to at any given time.

he?

Other than that, I make no claims about that being.

@Dusty Morgan well can u touch space or see it so u belive in science so religion lol 😂 checkmate atheist 👌

you just are not cool enough yet

you want proof, but the proof has to be this that such and such , and if it isnt like that, it isnt proof?

You can touch space. It isn't a void you know.

what do you mean by god Dusty?

Granted it is like touching air.

do metaphors exist?

a almost absolute zero radiation filled near vacuum

space

Stop trying to troll people Aghost. It is kind of getting annoying.

hahaha

whay space is a lot

i know atheists very well

im hungry 🍔🤤🍗😅

they are so funny

lmao

also, i am slightly offended by being called a troll, and not being taken seriously

but, thats okay

hey dusty, how many genders are there?

im offended by being called a bot. and not being taken seriously

i know im not being called a bot but still

Near Absolute Zero. Anything that reaches absolute zero ceases to function. That is when all molecules stop moving all together. Makes me wonder... wouldn't we need to isolate it from the rest of the universe in a void to make that happen? I mean any molecule that slams into any molecule that is absolute zero imparts energy and it wouldn't be considered absolute anymore.

@Aghost far more than 2

no one ever takes me seriously 😥

i agree @Xombii

@Aghost there are two sexes but gender is social. And you arent saying women in india are treated the same as women in japan or women in the US. thats 3 genders allready

Bot lives matter <:NPC:500042527231967262>

well there are more than two sexes ,but IN HUMANS there are two sexes

fungi have... a lot more

i agree

well, what does gender mean?

anyone else agree? like if you agree

ok goodbye . im goivvg offine

@Aghost the social role pretty much.Thats how it was used before feminists in the 1960s tried to correlated sex with gender intrinsicly

back then, gender was a term primarily used for feminine male gods and such

or in a mocking manner

well, gender and sex match for 99% or something

gender is a useless word, sex covers it all.
but at some point, some people thought... wait... what if you have a male brain in a female body...
well, thats called a disorder, but that was too triggering for some people

well not really, no. Yes a woman is allways a woman, but the gender of a woman in saudi arabia is much different from the gender of a woman in japan

what

the gender of a woman?

i need to read that a couple of times to understand it

the gender of a woman... the gender...
of ...
a woman

the gender of a woman...

is woman?

thats her sex. What are the social expectations and all that, thats gender

so you are using the word gender, as a way to introduce cultural differences between different societies view on the role of women?

for example, yes.

what are the social expectations of a female dog?

to be a little bitch? 😉

like... lets move "gender" to the animal world, and see how it holds up

Well i do oppose gender, actualy.

ah good

i dont think men should be expected to provide and protect just becouse they are male for example

cuz i havent seen any genderfluid dogs lately

the male dogs all have penisses, and the female dogs can all birth baby doggos

well again thats sex. thats pretty damn static.

i mean i guess technology allows us to reproduce asexualy in theory but doing that doesnt make you both male and female 😄

And, yes, technology actualy can do that. We can produce sperm and eggs from blood now thanks to stemcell research and we can keep a fetus in a biobag. Its not long enough yet but we can keep a fetus in a biobag longer and longer, once it can be over 9 months we dont need a womb, either

yeah, hmm my point is that the word gender can be scrapped entirely
there is no use for it in my world

Well yeah it just describes bullshit like tradcucks telling you to "be a man" and such BS

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/dec/17/alice-walker-antisemitic-david-icke-book kek

https://twitter.com/ukrinun/status/1074790148028674054?s=21

@Redneo to be a man, means to stop acting like a bitch.
i think it checks out, since females are often more emotional

lol good luck getting Russia out of Crimea

Cool. you are fine with me not working and waiting for the collapse of society then?

bigger chance of Ukraine stop existing

https://twitter.com/akihheikkinen/status/1074741244381810690

yeah

Putin said anymore conflict and he will wipe Ukraine off the map.

Putin master of sabre rattling

okay. cause in my first job i earned 40$/hour plus benefits, decided its not worth the hassle to work though. Thestate gives me free money anyways.

And it will have to default on that debt anyways, too, so doesnt matter

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Putin about to turn Ukraine into Chernokraine

@tombmonkey so russia never heard of pulling out of the one your fucking before something spawns I take it

I am a quarter ukrainian

@Redneo work is a great way to learn things tho.
but, its not the only way. hehe
at some point, trying to work for a corrupt state is just as damaging as not working in an uncorrupt state

(and also as "undamaging" in some sense)

im saying, it doesnt really matter in the big picture

Russia is the most bellicose country in the world right after US