I do think there are hypocrites about who gets to be proud of their race and who don’t

https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/New-law-says-genetic-test-valid-for-determining-Jewish-status-in-some-cases-506584

Like if you’re black then it’s great to be black

If your Asian you can be proud of being Asian

But white? Ha

You know what is insane... Japan and China are Ethno states.

Primarily made up of Asians.

I’m not particularly ethno nationalist but I find it hypocritical

i want the same immigration policy as israel tbh...

@Dusty Morgan japan is super ducking racist

I know.

Asia in general is turbo-racist

*Shrugs*

*She was asked for proof of her Jewish status, but much of her family had perished in the Holocaust and her living relatives would not help her since her maternal grandmother had survived and vowed not to have any further connection to the Jewish people. With no other way of proving her Jewish lineage, the woman took a mitochondrial DNA test and submitted it as evidence that she was indeed Jewish.*

Like you will never be Japanese even if you’ve lived there for 500 years as long as your white

It is their society, we can't force them to change.

They must change naturally.

I am sure DNA tests is one of many valid ways of trying to verify jewish ancestry.

jewish ancestry? what

Like how my aramaean ancestry gives evidence of a christian background

If you've lived anywhere for 500 years you're probably not even human

i thought it was just a religion?

@Dvir it’s probaly work on the beta Isreali too

now all of the sudden its an ethnicity?

ethnicity and religion correlate, that isn't unique to jews

oy vey

it correlates?

wew

who would have thunked

Look at the balkans and the former territory of yugoslavia

well its great that you finally admit this fact

I am not a fan of ethnostate ideas. People moving is not bad.
The difference is - people of what status and merits...

They divide their ethnicities based on religion even though they are essentially the same besides their religion

Um Dvir...

You just inadverity gave any genocidal maniac a reason to commit genocide against other race.

I gotta say I kind of agree with Aghost in that I think ancestory would be a bad way to judge Jewish citizenship

Oh this bad religion is assoicated with these people, we should wipe them out.

I do agree with the idea of autonomy and sovereignty though

It isn't the only way to judge, but it can be used as potentiality

so, yes, israel is an ethno nationalist state, wich exports jews to other countries... that cry about the holocaust all the time... import muslims , and then when the muslims become anti semitic, they call the native population racists
and then when shit hits the fan, they return back to israel

I think trying to form corlation between race and religion is dangerous.

Genocidal maniacs don't need reasons to do that. That's what makes them genocidal maniacs. We shouldn't ignore fact because some people will abuse it.

Jews wrote a book about israel so they can get israel bec religion e.e

I am not conflating them, I am saying they correlate

That is one hell of a theory, Aghost

@Dusty Morgan I think what your talking about mixed race America is interesting; I kind of wonder if in the future there will be an American race

yeah, its a pattern

I don't think jews are that evil or organised though

Like a product of race mixing over centuries

I mean american culture exists

*Carmel insists the genetic test cannot be used to revoke someone’s Jewish status – even if they were found not to have the relevant genetic markers – since only 40% of Ashkenazi Jews have them, and someone without them likely comes from the other 60% of the extended Ashkenazi Jewish family. He also avers that there is “no such thing as a Jewish gene,” explaining that the mitochondrial genetic test simply determines ancestry, not Jewishness.*

@Emperor of USA Majority of United States citizens are in fact mix. They are not 100% full blooded any race.

That of course assumes no new source of immigration

"race" mixing is ultimately good for the gene pool and health though

So why not a race

@Uksio incorrect

it heavily depends on how much you do this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/519343222976151555/habsburg-jaw-of-charles-ii.jpg

In sense, I argue that full blooded races are in the minority while the mix races are in the majority of United States.

Human mixing is not beneficial sir

Because keeping pure bloodlines worked oh-so-well

Races have never been pure. The French are just germanized latins and the english are the result of a long line of invaders fucking over the lands of england.

Cmon, don't insult our intelligence

The spaniards share ancestry with northern africans

Germans mixed with the Huns

Go back far enough everything just dissolves

Race then isn't determined by genetics

@Uksio on the other hand let’s not try and force race mixing; we don’t want to be like Paraguay

I am talking about like natural mixing, not forced mixing of the past.

I mean go far back enough society dissolves

Mixing of races happens naturally here in United States.

Julius Evola explains this in his book The Myth of the Blood

I am not saying you should. You do you, boo

Even an ultranationalist like him understood this

Okay you worried me for a second

I thought you agreed wit that crazy man

Dvir... I am trying to say here, that all the current races of today are mixing here in United States more than anywhere in the world.

All I am stating is that cheetahs are now worse off because of a genetic bottleneck that caused inbreeding

I dont want stupid mixing plox

So United States is basically a nation of Mixed Races.

Genes are genes and too much of the same code makes them into a bad code

I am not white, my race is American

Mixing will happen regardless though

I wonder if eventually one of the “purest” races in America will be Native Americans

Neither forcing nor trying to stop mixing is smart IMO

I think the difference between americanized versions of the races can be found

Let the chips fall where they may

Yeah it will happen, but it is happening more than any other time in history or anywhere else in the world today here in United States of America.

In the past, mixed race children was call bastard children.

The idea of race has changed so much through the ages, now it means little more than skin color

It was frowned upon and usually forced.

Yeah dvir its become a branch of words

@Emperor of USA Current population IS native to America though. They are native americans. But I get what you mean (i.e. if environment would make them look like tribes that lived there before, phenotypically speaking)

Today... United States basically allows marriages between races, birth between races, and intermingling between races which isn't frowned upon.

So`?

That means we basically the Mix Race capital of the world.

This conversation jumps

Eeyup

USA is a mix soup

In all sense, I am trying to say United States is a Nation of Mix Races and full blooded races are the minority in my opinion.

But then again, any nation that had mass migrations is also mixed, racial purity is a moot point

But fullblooded races are nonexistent

By far the only places that stayed pure are the isolated ones

All others interfucked regardless of being racist or not

Separating people in United States based on skin color is a fruitless struggle.

Something that the left is currently trying to do.

Seperating people based on culture isnt, yet people still dumb everything down

Well, the left tries to get power

There are full blooded races, migration from regions that are isolated.

And one way to do it is to divide people

To United States, that means they are in sense... a minority.

But in the U.S i find full pure blooded to be wrong in this case

Isn’t Richard Spencer only 94% white

A very small minority.

There is full blooded native americans.

But they do eventually venture outside the reservation.

I am living proof of that.

Spencer has some of the whackiest ideas

I do think that he should be free to say those

Nb4 everyone dissolves society bec people are tards

@Dusty Morgan the Native Americans probaly aren’t even pure blood because they probably intermarried with other tribes before Europe arrive d

Let's make society divided by smarts

Oh wait, it already is

Not exactly

AA exists

@Emperor of USA My grandmother was 100% native american...

I am not sure about my grandfather.

I was adopted outside the reservation.

I’m talking about between Native American tribes/ethnicities

I pull my legendary race cards out and take your place in society card which brings you down to 0 hp

Well today we considered all Native American tribes as a single race.

I am just saying... there are some full blooded in the terms we talk about today.

Well yeah that’s sort of an American concept; that there aren’t important differences between Italians and Irish, just whites and blacks

Old racial concept of course

I am close to 50% native american blood... almost 50/50.

https://twitter.com/jeffpearlman/status/1068679441340018689

Literally shaking.

But I appear white with native facial structures.

That... sounds really strange

(((please help ratio)))

Race is a social construct, therefore im not what i am and am secretly black so give me money

Why are there sports supplies in a sports store, this is bullshit

yeah, absolutely despicable sporting goods store selling sporting goods.

Because there is sports designed around shooting competitions.

Sarcasm op

Skeet shooting, gun range shooting competitions.

SARCAAM OP

Oh nevermind... >.>

skeet skeet skeet skeeeeeet

Didn't realize it was Sarcasm.

Sched we got one

I am not a ghost.

>.>

I had a friend in Boyscouts; he has curly hair, blue eyes, and European features. I only ever saw his dad who was lily white. Yeah he was tan but I assumed he was just really active

Its a rare fooled by sarcasmism

Turns out he’s half Indonesian

Boyscouts

You mean

GENDERSCOUTS

Yeah.... I am called white even though I literally have native features.

I actually got out before all the bullshit

All because of my skin color.

Haoobed

🤔 is this a part of the native american culture?

Im a haoob on you

Hell natives actually don't consider me native because I was born outside reservation.

So I am kind of in a limbo.

Limbo isnt the correct word

Even though I have native blood coursing through my veins with native features... I am not considered native to them and I am not considered white to the whites unless they want to use it against me.

@Dusty Morgan I’ve had a growing suspicion that native Americans might be one of the most racist groups in the country. How correct is that assessment

Lol you wanna see racist

African americans

I don't belong to either group.

Thus I identify as a mix race.

Literally, The White Man is used as a term to scare kids at night

Natives are actually that way because they want to preserve their race... which is few in numbers.

Probably lower than a few hundred thousands.

Damn near wiped out.

Petition to say nigga please

Their race and culture.

To be exact.

Yeah but that’s sort of what I’m talking about; it’s perfectly fine to be that way for Native Americans but if whites do that they are racist. I’m not saying natives didn’t nearly get wiped out and that it’s immoral to want to maintain their culture; I’m just criticizing social hypocrisy

Could say in sense, we created a unintentional genocide.

By applying our society's standards to Native Americans.

I dont see native americans coming out of their casinos in droves and shooting people for making fun of them.

Through disease, conflict they don't understand, and culture they view as alien.

Did you know Reserves are considered separate from United States and United States has no authority of the natives society.

Basically their own land.

But those people were refugees from a county that persecuted them for their religion; can’t they open their borders for poor ~~illegal aliens~~refugees

@Emperor of USA convince me of any other race outside of germans that are as racist.

If we let refugees in, they would overwhelm reserves because... they will force themselves into the reserves thinking they are apart of United States.

Nazi*

I was more talking about the puritans

@Dusty Morgan

And historical stuff

I don't agree with this idea, I think natives should eventually be integrated into United States.

But... they risk being wiped out by uncontrolled immigration.

I never said you did; I’m disputing the cultural idea not your opinions

That the democrats are striving for.

I think they shouldnt

It is better to pass our culture and integrate it into United states Society instead of running the risk of it being lost forever.

@Dusty Morgan that’s an idea I’ve been hammering down recently; mass immigration is going to destroy the natural diversity that america has accrued for centuries

The Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Filipino and other communities that live in my home town might be wiped out in the future

Even if the NAtive American people are eventually wiped out, let's face it, we will be because we are few in numbers and genetic pool is poor.

We should at least make sure some part of us survives.

I have several opinions against integrating native americans but if i post them, they'll get ignored 😬

@SantaSoc I’ll pause to hear them

Don’t want you to feel ignored

Go ahead Socrates.

It’s a diolouge

We all have our own opinions... I am thinking along the lines of perserving the history and culture of Natives Americans.

Aren't white people allowed to join tribes?

No.

You can't just join a tribe, you must be born into the reservation.

Or married into it.

Can people start new tribes?

Maybe the best thing for the future of the Native American community and culture would be to relinquish it to the majority of Americans that have at least a one Native American relative and live on the land that they once called home

Then if the birth rates are low, the only real way to preserve culture would be to
A) let people of other races join
B) form colonies with a higher emphasis on children

I'm talking something like in Nazi germany

Where mothers were rewarded for children

Those Americans didn't grow up with the culture though. You can't just bring in a group way bigger than a minority culture and expect them to integrate with the culture rather than override it

>nazi natives

most people want to have children, its usually external factors that prevent it

So integrating the culture is what you want, the proposition that thats the only available option instead of connecting and accumulating history and then adding it to a musuem and keeping them seperate from our society which tends to twist history in general is a bad move.
I personally think the government should fuck off of them merely because they've already fucked them enough.

England they want ot have more than 2.1 kids, but taxes and quality of life is something people think about

That sounds like a schlocky 80’s movie

Economic incentives to have more children and keep their culture alive is plausible.

But shoving them into american culture just fucks them more than helps

I tend to think that americans tend to sway away from actual culture and instead progressivism causes things like culture to get distorted or become obselete and then people remove things at will. Many people come here and bring cultures with them yet you see them eventually discard parts of it.

I just want to protect the native american culture, because it is apart of me.

I remember when I was in high school I once advocated that the reserves should be dissolved and annexed by the United States because it was a national dishonor to have land not under US control and that the Native Americans should be integrated into the wider American culture

I was having a very nationalist period of my life

Forced Annexing would destroy natives.

I mean i understand the sentiments, i just dont think americans should touch anything

I think it should done on natives terms.

Americans are like EA

With empathesis on protecting native americans culture and history.

@SantaSoc are you not american

Glad you realize the folly of that idea Emperor.

I migrated to america through work. I don't share american ideology, although I understand it.

You should in sense, brush up on it.

A lot of our policies and ideology comes learning from our mistakes.

We are still the new nation in the world, we will make mistakes.

You can make mistakes, you have to acknowledge them and fix them or create policies that prevent as much of it from reoccuring

But thats amongst all countries

We are doing that, acknowledging our mistakes, but at the same time we are not going to infringe upon our citizens rights.

I think we have made considerably less mistakes compared to other countries; it’s in this country that actions considered fine for centuries become immoral

A lot of things done with good intentions ends up making life hell for everyone.

Reason for that Emperor is because we are a YOUNG nation.

True

We are like almost 400 years old.