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i wonder if i would do well
ok so nobody but the ukranian have ever been asked to serve
I signed up for the Army in time of war.
that and a german who went out of his way to avoid a silly 2 year mandatory service
ok thanks for that info
i didnt choose my birthyear
If you're in Germany, you have a similar imbalance. Much of the socialist state programs are financed with the taxes of men.
i don't care
so, no, i didnt do anything to avoid that
I was almost asked by the Spanish Crown to serve in the Spanish Army
Even in Europe, women work 10 hours less per week, on average, than men.
@Khanclansith so did I but I'm just interested in hearing who in the non, volunteer side actually had to serve in a manner that didn't involve consent
and specifically in a war
Even in Germany the men are the breadwinners
Add to this things such as maternity leave, a higher count of sick days, lower productivity, fields that involve more care ...
I dont think a draft is likely affecting many people right now but if things escalate into WW3 you can be certain men will be drafted
Yes, men will always be the breadwinners.
But people don't see it as clearly, because the money they hand to women is done through the indirection of the state.
I think its a terrible idea to have women work in care tbh.
It's an extra step, but men still finance women, absolutely.
And if things go bad and war breaks out, it will be primarily men dying.
hmmm
Men died for the vote - women cried for the vote.
the more authoretarian governments get, the less respect men get from women as they believe they are entitled to the mans extra work without relating with them
i can see this being true
because the state takes the place of the man
provides and protects
but the state is only able to do that by stealing from men
@Doshin tbh I think the complaint is dumb
@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth Well, that's in part due to the illusion women get of independence, because of the extra step of the state.
They think they are independent, but on the balance sheet, women are still financed by men.
It's also hilarious that feminists complain about the earnings/wage gap, because women do 80% of domestic spending.
They DO earn less than men, yet far outspend men.
Where do you think that money is coming from then?
i concur, the gender vs gender thing is BS
humans are human in a couple
I can't comprehend wanting a woman in combat.
we function differently, because we need to do a wide range of things to function, more then a single person can handle
Only the top 4% of women can compete with the average for men.
it depends on what
workplace sure
He means pay I'm sure
but men suck at being pregnant
Feminism is one of the biggest scams of the 20th century.
yeah women and men have different roles, but women are encroaching onto the male role and complaining that things arent equal in outcome
tony talk
@Doshin it won't matter in 15 years
Well, it's ironic, because meritocracy is actually the one system that would allow the few women who can compete to be free to do so.
Maybe 20
*walks up to random women on the street with a gang of men* โyou owe us 130k each.โ
yes lets do that
im in
But now, we have this anti-meritocracy movement going on, primarily from people who cannot compete.
โPerhaps I can pay you another wayโ
โYeah, in civil service.โ
@Undead Mockingbird kinda where you might expect it to come from
@Undead Mockingbird feminism started earlier than the 20th century. And it wasnt any better in the 1800s, either.
"BY THE END OF HER LIFE, THE AVERAGE WOMAN WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE FISCAL IMPACT OF $150,000"
hmmm ima dig with this a lil
Well, lets all stay at home and live from welfare to make things more equal. Am i feministing right?
If men wanted to stop feminism overnight, they would simply refuse to pay taxes.
Every social program would stop.
i think its fine for them to use that much tax money as long as they are doing their job and mothering
Feminism is financed by men.
There's a red pill for you.
I can't compare NZ to the US
We know that single mothers are bad for children
If we donโt all pay taxes, whatโre they gonna do?
Send armed police
To all men?
Garnish wages
yea true dumb comment on my part
Most men are police
Most police are men*
"The fact that feminists want a stronger government is not a coincidence. While historically, women had to choose a wealthy husband for resources, they can now stay single, be lesbians, marry a poor man, or use the sperm bank, and the state will still transfer male taxes to them. Interestingly, within 10 years of womenโs suffrage, the government doubled their tax revenue and expenditure in the USA."
I'm in CA and I've been considering the consequences if I went full no taxation without representation
@Doshin we dont even know how much worse or better single dads would do seen as thats rare and usualy under extraordinary circumstances...
because I'm pretty lolbertarian
If I had to lose the vote to end feminism, I would do it.
I usually vote republican now as long as they're not neocon bible thumpers
100%. Why not? I would get what I would have voted for anyway ...
and sometimes, honestly, even when they are.
Funnily enough, most people accept that mothers are important. They probably are to a degree, though it doesnt seem like we actualy have evidence for that
Hard evidence that is
i think the mother teaches the limits of compassion like the father teaches the limits of violence
Women can only raise children, they cannot raise adults. That's because they are more like children themselves.
if there is no mother the child becomes over compassionate and a pussy
just like without a father children become ultra violent
Tbh who cares if the human race dies out
Women get stuck at stage 3 of the Kohlberg Moral Hierarchy, which is care based, as opposed to stage 6 of the hierarchy, a justice based morality.
That is also part of why women advocate for equality of outcome.
So you're saying women are a force that opposes compassion? @Doshin you may be right seen how many of them can laugh about violence inflicted on espacialy men
Another issue is that they tend to be collectivist and have a higher degree of ingroup preference than men.
not against compassion
they are like the masters of compassino
im not so sure compassion is common in women tbh
they know when its stops being compassion and starts to suffocate
The more power women get, the more due process is also being deteriorated.
just like rough and tumble play is to teach the borders of play and fighting
I think it's a lie that women are compassionate.
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