Socialism usually leads to Anarchy, Group of Elites, or Monarchy.

Venezuala could have literally told BP, Exxon and Shell if they want to drill off their shores they need to fund STEM schools.

When those companies can hire guys for cheaper in house, they'll ditch importing Americans

When I want to be sad and think about the future... I read Disqus comments and look at their accounts

Thats capitalism

A lot of western nations refused to do business with Venezuela due to their inhumane treatment of their citizens.

This has to been my favorite sentence: it was more about human decency and Petersons's serious lack of it.

they dug thier own grave

Yeah they did.

Venezuela president is constantly paranoid that United States is trying to assassinate him.

I like to think about shit like that with the animal shelter business model

@Dusty Morgan Be honest. They probably are.

Reminds me of every other socialist dictator

no need

long enough, the people will do it themselves

Well that's just one way of doing it

and just hope its a better goverment, not trading one shithole for another

Exactly like Lotheron said.

Why step in when the people will do the work for us.

In an animal shelter you have dogs/cats any pets that don't get adobted after a while get killed . You cant afford to keep everyone alive , where does the money come from ?

it's fucked up but that's how it is

Sooner or later it will stabilize as a nation after socialist failure is thrown into the garbage where it belongs.

this ^

Us interfering in the process of their nation getting back on its feet will only lead to more problems.

Well, the US might be helping these groups into 😕 assassinating him and grow a resistance. I don't know.

doubtful

its a tire fire

it'll engulf itself

sometimes you can't wait for the ppl to step up... or you end up with another North Korea, where it keeps its ppl so docile they'll never fix their own shit... and then it gets to the point where they become such a huge problem it becomes harder for the outside world to step in

doesn't need help

I hate to say it, anytime a foreign nation interferes with another nation, tends to make that nation stumble and become worse.

^

it has to come from within

@MCaesar Good point

or else it doesn't mean anything

if they didn't fight for it

inception!

they wont have as much reason to keep it

its like free animals

I would love to help them get their nation back on track, so our nation doesn't end up taking the brunt of caring for their citizens....

proven they're treated worse than thoes that were paid for

becaus there's a vested intrest there

@MCaesar how is VZ gonna end up being a NK without nuclear deterence ?

But to me, us getting involved will only make matters worse instead of better.

get that shit out of here

fuck off @King Canuck

no u

North Korea was propped up thanks to China.

no fu

ree

North Korea wouldn't exist if China didn't interfer.

we r having a super cereal convo

@Rabbi Shekels I wasn't aware VZ had nuclear ambitions

Simple as that.

@MCaesar you said they could end up being a NK

South Korea wouldn't exist if we didn't interfer.

When you think about it, wouldn't Trump do this? It's not like Obama and his tolerance (non-activity) in Asia. Who's to say Trump isn't doing the same thing as he's doing in NK?

they cant unless they haz nukes

Trump surprised me how well he has handled North Korea.

Too bad it won't amount to anything probably

I thought he would struggle like other presidents... North Korea being stubborn as hell.

but I do hope for the best tehre

I think he is doing a reward vs. punishment thing.

there was a border meeting lately that was optimisitc

@Rabbi Shekels not in the nuclear sense... but the govt committing war crimes and indoctrinating the ppl into submission... essentially becoming a dictatorship of pure population control

like styx sed NK has rare earth minerals if we can get them out of war we americans will go in there and take that shit

You got this path, you are rewarded with this.

He did it, I guess. I think his new problem might be in Venezuela.

If you go down this path, China and United States will punish you.

Remember he got China to help with his endeavor.

@MCaesar maybe like cuba perhaps then ?

ik

idk

@Rabbi Shekels they need to use those to spur their economy, rather than us "taking" them

Venezuela is a shit show.

Period.

@LotheronPrime idk man china is our bitch now though

Love how back then, they praised Venezuela as being the symbol of a successful Socialist nation.

the problem with VZ is you had plenty of socialists cheering them on

^^

look how cuk'd they are to trumps trade deals

exactly

Then when it goes to shits like we knew it would, they all stopped talking about it and denied they supported venezuela.

they try to flex on us but they got shit

Christ

It is kind of hard to take advantage of United States when the president is stubborn and has a backbone.

Trump has good intentions, he just has a loud mouth to go with it.

Agree ^

But it works

That loud mouth makes him look bad and tends to make it easier for the media to attack him.

cuz he has bite too

many can't get past the loud mouth

fuck the media they are losing credibility

I look at his actions, he is doing a pretty damn good job.

I ignore what comes out of his mouth and focus on his actions.

@Rabbi Shekels I know cuba wasn't the bastion of freedom, but I don't where they ranked as far as human rights violations and oppression... basically was trying to point out that if no action is taken to help VZ, it will become entrenched in it's regression, as NK has done

as do I

He has done more than any president in recent history, more than any president that I have seen while alive.

as long as his mouth dosent implicate him of anything