next best step is let them kill themselves

@Schedrevka but rolling is not something they do is my point

They do something and may have to roll for that

"good job, you scared him enough to make him believe you are a threat.... roll initiative"

I think this is a case where you can't just say "I want to roll to persuade him to do this" but actually need to tell him WHY you think they should do this, and the roll can determine how well you got your point across

Like I said it's not mind control, but it is how well you present your argument

Sometimes no argument regardless of how good will convince them, but some arguments are gotten across better than others

and that can influence how they react

Right.

What im speaking of is not neccessarily limited to persuasion. I also hear people say "can i roll perception?" - that doesnt make any sense. Saying "i keep an eye on the door" does and if there is something to notice you may fail to notice the GM will tell you to roll.

So Will Wheaton, I am going with "Unthinking Useful idiot that just drinks the cool-aid."

i think its funnier when they say "sure" when there is nothing to see. and the like

makes them think they ahve a chance to find something

Well, yeah

Yeah, some people just try and make dumb skill checks all the time, but sometimes a player will want to make a check that makes sense and the DM just didn't think of it.

"You notice your right shoelace is longer than your left shoelace" - and if its a low roll "while running into a telephone poll, take 1 damage" 😉

i love low perception checks

always entertaining

I've DM'd a fair bit and some players really don't understand and it's fucking annoying, but some players do get how things work, and it's not a hard case of "players should NEVER in any circumstance ask to roll" like some people say

I have a question ... if the abcdefghi etc community-promotes diversity then why havent they boy cotter fashion companies that only sell men and womens cloths ? Is it because they recognize two genders ?

"a bee has distracted you, be dead last in initiative rolls for the next 5 minutes"

I find lolrandumb results for skill checks as annoying as "I roll perception"

Depends on the game. Sometimes it's fun for players to just go with the flow and let the GM and the rolls produce ridiculous results. I think it gets old fast though

i think truly ridiculous results are for crits

Which admitedly in some systems are way to common

"haha you rolled a 1 so you stab ur BUTT"

Crits don't work the way people use crits

Like almost everyone just uses a crit as an auto success

I grew up on Das Schwarze Auge. A skill check there consisted of 3 rolls on attributes and in total you could roll X amount above the attributes (or had to roll X amount in total below them) based on your skill + modifiers. D20. as soon as you have TWO ones or twenties at least you got to go into crit teritory.

I rolled a 20 so I should be able to jump over a house this DM sucks

I like the Shadowrun system of crits wherein as you get better crits become harder, which honestly makes sense

Imagine you had a 1/20 chance to do anything you tried successfully. There's good reason why skill checks can't crit

Your initial efforts are kinda all over the place, with both critical hits and failures being fairly probable. As you get better your success becomes consistent and the variance goes away

I like how pokemon tabletop adventures handled skill checks. You roll a d6 for each skill point you have in an attribute. So getting a skill point is a big deal

In my group, crits are only a minor damage bonus. That’s due to the fact that we utilize a mutilation system though.

That's also the SR system

You just end up stacking a lot of points though, to the point where you roll like 14d6 for a check

@Rabbi Shekels does the LGBT community promote fixed binaries? 🤔

It seems so

World of Darkness is also dicepooled like that, but with a lower cap

Nut shure dough

I think in PTA it went up to 6 skill points

Just a thought

Thats just feminism

Feminists frankly are just the current enforcers of gender roles

We all know they support whichever way of thinking best suits them in according to situation.

You know what the best crit system is... exploding die 😉

SR is like 6 or 7 points (depending on traits) for a skill + anywhere between like 4 and 10 points from stats+etc

Exploding dice is fun

Why not both? OG Deadlands was Dice Pools, raised die types and exploding crits

So one guy is rolling 6d4 and another is rolling 4d8

And suddenly a stick of dynamite goes off near by and you're trying to soak multiple d20s in wounds

And then they took that big old mess and dragged it kicking and screaming into savage worlds so people would actually play it. The only casualty was drawing playing cards for chargen and I miss it anyway

🤔 So if far left people refuse to use places like gab because it's full of nazis, but now all the far left people are leaving twitter, with them gone doesn't that mean twitter is just full of nazis and that they shouldn't come back?

I dont use gab becouse a) i dont use mobile devices and b) why would i give a company the ability to censor me?

@Redneo thats a cuk thing to say

I don't use gab because it's supposed to be like twitter

Personally I just never share any thoughts through any medium so I can't be censored

Reported

I have accounts but i rarely share anymore

@Rabbi Shekels how so? I prefer to post without companies, governments, courts being able to take my posts down.

Lmao @Beemann

@Redneo i dont blame you

On some level there isn't any place like that on the net

there is

4chins ?

there is in fact even childpron (encoded into ASCII) in the bitcoin transaction memos... you cant remove stuff from a blockchain.

I heard about that ^

With enough time and effort, anything can be ruined

This too ^

And steem is a blockchain specificly built to post text in in social media type applications. Thats what i use.

We are humans we are good at fucking shit up yo

Im still waiting for my steemit account to be approved it takes like two weeks

Well and like, you look at the groups the government hasn't rooted out, and it's not a competence thing, it's a funding thing

yeah it takes a long time for that

we have a kitchen!

Eventually everything gets compromised

Naisu

What are you gonna make in it first?

oven, sink, and dishwasher are all working, pots and pans are put away

fuckin BURGERS

🇺🇸

becouse well it actualy costs money to create an account, if you sign up via steemit they pay one account per user though.

i even got to reorganize everything to my liking because nobody was home to tell me i couldn't

👌

nice

and we got one of those sexy double-folding corner cabinets

@Tohob pics or you lying

you know what good idea lemme put my chip in my camera

Fuck pics , show us a stream don’t try and pull a mundane matt on us

Fucking james allsup lmao

i don't have the means to record video :c

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BREAKING

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Ocasio Cortez has BANNED press from her public town hall

N I C E

What @Timcast ? Cortez banned the press?