Of course, I also don't understand calling it a "poem".

Perhaps I'm just not hip or something.

P O S T M O D E R N I S M

Just because it doesn't make sense doesn't make it not art. Or good. Or something.

In all seriousness, post modernism started as something unique and powerful. But by 70s had degraded into simply having no standards whatsoever.

yeah its essentially modernism

When your focal point is subverting standards, you eventually end up with unironic shit

in the past

You will invariably find yourself at the point where the only things you can challenge are notions of talent and quality

XD so true

That is the reality of the "post truth" crowd

Is they exist in a paradigm with these authorities they want to challenge

I still can't get over the article picture. It's a real thing. And it won a prestigious award.

https://allthetropes.org/wiki/True_Art_Is_Incomprehensible

Not seperate from them

There is no way for one to challenge standards that dony exist

So really postmodern art

As much as it wants to be seperate from the standards and authorities it challenges

Could not exist without them

An everlasting plea to seperate from reality and perception

It's kinda fun. If you go to a major art museum you'll see the classics and immediately understand why they're classics and held in such high regard. And then you get to the post-moderns of the 1910s and realize how special it is and how it still has it's own high standards while subverting the traditional requirements of "art"

But then you go to the MOMA or something and begin to wonder if it's just a con game to steal money from gullible politicians or something.

It all kinda burned off and now it's just a bunch of junk with weak standards and is just strange for the sake of being strange.

XD get dem nice grant monies for da art schoolz

Your tax dollars at work!

Yeah i mean its not challenging to challenge a standard that has been challenged a million times outside of for practice

Letalone be considered great

Yeah, I'm big on the idea of a return to a certain degree of traditionalism in the academic system

Get the standards back.

Its a cycle

Back and forth in an eternal stuggle

But at this point yeeeeeeeah they need to come back in terms of alot of humanities

Music i think is the only one that has really stayed the path of tradition

In terms of academics. Even the newer sort of music classes are about well established traditional standards (at least in modern day with rock and pop classes and degrees becoming a thing)

Its great because the musical equivalent of postmodernism is actually extremely well defined in terms of rules that have been established and codified in tradition

Unlike its visual art counterpart

I mean, you'll read classic literature in the English department, but the ultimate goal is always to reach deconstruction and the research is entirely driven by SocJus-type trends.

Actually, that's not quite accurate.

Well not that postmodernism doesnt have a sort of structure

Most of the classic books have been replaced. But there's enough they'll claim they respect the classic canon.

Its just more a negative sort of structure. In the sense of whats left

Have you guys seen the postmodern generator

Yeah i have a bud doing an english literature/education double major at the uni iblive by

Yes

it generates papers it's hilarious

XD yeah its pretty funny

A student once got a paper peer reviewed, called "The conceptual penis"

it directly cited the post modern generator

And hes told me the horror stories of his SocJus class and the approach of most of his teachers

XD yeah ive seen that lol

One of my cousins had to take a "Feminist Poetry" class as a gen-ed requirement

Phallogocentrism strikes again!!!

She hated it, thank goodness

XD praise kuthuluuuu

Yeah, I *really* want to clean up the unis. The humanities have no purpose if they are only going to serve as a recruiting grounds for activists.

If there's no chance of getting a profitable job from a degree, or teaching something meaningful (because music is actually important, imo), then the degree should be scrapped

Yeah or to propagate fucking propaganda and misinformation

XD yeah good u threw that in for music or else thered be no need for music degrees lol

Good luck trying to find a music job out of a UNI lol its fucking hard

Well, that and my mother did music education for her first degree

She's told every one of her students to pursue a second degree alongside music

Better spend that time trying to find one than spend it doing a degree if you dont intend on working in a school of sorts

Wise lady

Unfortunately, her students haven't been so wise, historically.

Most haven't taken her advice

I mean. No offence to your mom but pursuing a degree in music isnt a sign of the sharpest cookie... This is coming from a musician too

Who plays professionally

If thats your only goal. In terms of getting the degree

Well, it's why she went back to school and got a Master's in Business

You gotta have the real long game in mind.

Yeah thats great XD defs the more lucrative part of the music industry

Lol theres way more fucking money in companies that make gear and manage groups than in being a musician

ms in businiss is afar more useful degree

tbh i feel college is a waste of time unless your going to learn something important like a STEM field

better to go to a trade school

and learn plumbing , electrician or something like that

you can make mad bucks

Yeah lol i mean there are more objectivley based aspects of all of these other industries

Even in music

fuck .... fuck school becums a garbage man no one wants to do that shit and it pays big cummies

That actually make money

if you want to do something you love .... good go for it but dont expect to be paid big bucks for it unless you want to get into some delicious #metoo moments

Lol like what i did is i went to school for being a sound engineer. Essentially any digital or analogue media involving sound

And it was a trade school

@JULZIFICATOR sound engineer can pay some monies lots of msm companies need that

So the idea is your being schooled on the industry you want to work in

fuck you can even use audacity to edit audio for vids as a freelancer

XD yeah i always lol when i see MSM networks having spund problems

Broadcast can be a bitch

Gotta cover the fuck outta ur bases

10x over

dude i used to edit sounds using audacity noob stuff though not that shit you prob know julz

XD yeah even that can be fun. I like fucking around with mixing for vids. Lol i listen to podcasts so often these days i know exactly how to mix n master them properly

thats why i want to do video editing

i need a bett computer though

need to save up getting the software is easy just need a pc that can swallow the loads

Like i felt like messaging joe rogan podcast cuz i saw an issue they were having with audio sync and i know exactly why it was happening

Yeah i feel ya for video editing u really need the big fire

dude even audio you need good equipment that shit can get super expensive

Btw it was something dumb that the audio resolution was set improperly

XD if u got a decent cpu n ram u can ram that shit in the box

But yeah

Analogue gear is fucking expensive as dicks