The Lizards

the question is not about property rights ... but WHO lays claim on them

tbh i think it sucks that we cant talk about the Israel/Palestine thing cause the fear of being called anti-semite

including Australia and Canada

bcuz commies just want the property rights in THEIR little greedy hands

Earth owns itself

the earth is in common ownership across all countries that enforce their borders

I'm not afraid of talking about it at all Lago

ownership is a social construction obviously

its negotiated at all stages

Netanyahu is a war criminal and Israel's occupation is a crime in progress

I mean we arent here but i mean more politicians and such

we literally pay taxes so the country can maintain its grasp on the land it has, and maintain order so each person can maintain its property within the land

Commies want to give property to the State

I remember when a Canadian doctor was shot by an Israeli sniper at the border while trying to help other people who had been shot by Israeli soldiers during the protest of the US embassy

because they apparently trust it to use said property well

and I still know fellow Canadians who thought that was perfectly OK

i said that property ownership SHOULD be absolute... not that it is necessarily as it is.... isnt that the point of "owning" something? if someone else could lay claim upon it and steal it w/o recourse (like the government) .... then obv property rights are not being respected

nah it should not be absolute

its possible to own stuff illegitametly

well Poptarts you're saying it "should" be and many agree with you, in fact enough do agree with you that we created laws that allow people to own things

IDF does some fucked up shit in the name of counter terrorism

but how deep into the ground and up into the sky would you own?

i love how we debate here insted of <#463068752725016579> but thats a very discord type thing

so who owns each and every one of you?

lol

do you not believe in self-ownership?

It's because the conversation started here

and nobody proposed to move it

God owns me

mhm

I own myself

My mind owns me, but I'm not sure what owns my mind

god owes

me

How much does god owe you?

tree fitty

_inb4 "about tree-fiddy"_

hopefully God doesn't owe you a cute anime girl

yeah, if you don't "own" something legitimately ... youre not the real owner lol

*hides*

called it late lol

yeah, just a fraction of a second

ye

there are constantly legal disputes over who the "real owner" of things is

the law settles that matter

it depends on the circumstances

the clutchness

which goes to show that ownership, while a good idea, is still something that is socially constructed

you can steal something and own it in many places

that's not to say it's a bad thing

"owning" something illegitimately contradicts the idea of ownership ... just bcuz someone seizes something or steal something from someone else doesnt make them the legit owner

cease the means of reproduction

if you are trapped in a room with a king and a president and you have a gun, and they do not, you own everything in that room

b-b-but m'social constructs are Patriarchy lel

you should read an old law case called Armory v. Delamirie

cytos, that's not necessarily true

it's interesting and talks about how ownership takes place

my social constructs are iron golums

If the king or the president you're trapped with can overpower you, they're the most powerful person in the room

we dont create laws that "allow" ppl to own things.... but laws that PROTECT ppl's property

ownership depends on enforceability

and therefore they own everything in that room

iron golums lol

anyways I'm gonna go home, work is over

peace out Timcast chat

20,000gp component cost

later

gonna drive home in my socially constructed car to my socially constructed home and drink some water that the government allows me to drink

its worth it though

<:sgtkilHi:400922883494379530> bye

cannot follow all of your comments, everyone... sorry ... this is getting too high volume chat lol

if there is no police force prepared to take shit back for you, contraband is legitimate ownership, as long as the new owner can defend it where you could not

oh, don't forget about the socially constructed pipes that take the water to your socially constructed home

What if WATER is a social construct

the pipes do exist, but they are just resting in the ground, the idea that the water company owns them is just agreed upon with the state authority that can enforce said ownership due to its law enforcement

forget about water, what if the immortal soul is a human construct?

water! huuuua! what is it good for? absolutely nothing!

lel

Did someone spam the everyone @ earlier?

i dunno if ownership is always "absolute". i think the limits start to appear when your ownership negatively affects other people's lives. if you buy a concert speaker system for your house and live in a neighborhood with other houses nearby, playing it full blast at 3am should probably be restricted somehow

yes

but they are dead now

@everynyan

were they killed?

banhammer

dieded

peace, @Hearts™ , good chatting

ah

of smiting

+6

bye

russia poisoned them with novichok

fuckin shit has this place turned into the fuckin dankula server or what? 16 @s ? really?

There was a spammer

Shocked that JDM would forget to disable that.

at least there aint scat porn

Spammers gone

It wasn't \@everyone, which is disabled

tim teleported behind them and was like *tips beanie* "nothing personal kid"