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2018-07-06 20:05:01 UTC

i still hope one of the major porn sites starts a non porn offshoot

2018-07-06 20:05:09 UTC

they have the systems already set up

2018-07-06 20:05:16 UTC

well the main thing about Youtube is simply that everyone uses it

2018-07-06 20:05:16 UTC

which would be the hardest part

2018-07-06 20:05:23 UTC

you can't get the same platform anywhere else

2018-07-06 20:05:26 UTC

everyone watched porn too tbh

2018-07-06 20:05:47 UTC

regardless, even if it doesnt take off, its not like they lost a bunch on server costs, the only loss would be the site design

2018-07-06 20:05:58 UTC

yeah lets not shill steem here

2018-07-06 20:05:59 UTC

the site workload would theoretically run on the existing servers

2018-07-06 20:06:11 UTC

it just wouldnt host smut ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-07-06 20:06:14 UTC

<:whyping:435884754936659989>

2018-07-06 20:06:20 UTC

Pornhub is good for watching movies, before they get take down

2018-07-06 20:06:31 UTC

plus i imagine the porn adds earn more money per add

2018-07-06 20:06:44 UTC

and there wont be an expectation for the content to be.. pure?

2018-07-06 20:06:48 UTC

They do... E621 ads are expensive af

2018-07-06 20:06:51 UTC

Styx seems to think Bitchute is pretty great

2018-07-06 20:06:54 UTC

honestly pornhub is one of the only companies that could legit compete with youtube if they just attached a sfw alternate site to their servers

2018-07-06 20:07:14 UTC

Vidhub :) pornhub sfw

2018-07-06 20:07:14 UTC

it seems odd they dont do it.. i wonder what the issue is?

2018-07-06 20:07:21 UTC

are they afraid it wont turn a profit like YT

2018-07-06 20:07:23 UTC

the main problem is getting the infrastructure to host all that video

2018-07-06 20:07:47 UTC

which is not an issue for pornhub.. or any other big porn site

2018-07-06 20:07:59 UTC

I'm not really familiar, what's "porn"?

2018-07-06 20:08:35 UTC

happy place for unhappy people

2018-07-06 20:08:38 UTC

its when you are thirsty and go to a site to quench your thirst, but avoid the ebony section at all costs

2018-07-06 20:09:03 UTC

<:yui_think:425265728594378752>

2018-07-06 20:09:05 UTC

I think you are understating the amount of data that youtube pulls in. I agree Pornhub could probably compete if they wanted to, but it would still be a large investment.

2018-07-06 20:09:20 UTC

oh but it would be gradual ofcourse

2018-07-06 20:09:26 UTC

@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth chocolate chicks on cracker .....

2018-07-06 20:09:32 UTC

avoid ebony section is racist

2018-07-06 20:09:36 UTC

they wont pull youtube tier data from the getgo

2018-07-06 20:09:36 UTC

doesn't google operate Youtube at a loss?

2018-07-06 20:09:42 UTC
2018-07-06 20:09:43 UTC

yes

2018-07-06 20:09:54 UTC

ye, but i imagine there is a lot going on there that is... wastefull

2018-07-06 20:10:00 UTC

if everyone moves to bitchute - they'll force article 13 on the US too

2018-07-06 20:10:10 UTC

Lol

2018-07-06 20:10:11 UTC

imagine what all the content ethics checkers cost

2018-07-06 20:10:20 UTC
2018-07-06 20:10:24 UTC

imagine the dark age of having to download Timcast videos on Torrent using a VPN

2018-07-06 20:10:36 UTC

Article 13 @Heartsโ„ข

2018-07-06 20:10:39 UTC

you mean the future?

2018-07-06 20:10:44 UTC

it's worth it for google because they can control it and use it for pushing ideology

2018-07-06 20:10:53 UTC

Mhm

2018-07-06 20:10:58 UTC

and they're willing to pay for that

2018-07-06 20:11:19 UTC

who's "they"?

2018-07-06 20:11:24 UTC

google

2018-07-06 20:11:25 UTC

i think yt is breaking even now

2018-07-06 20:11:27 UTC

Forcing an "ecosystem" like apple, but more encompassing

2018-07-06 20:11:52 UTC

I doubt google cares about ideology ... they care about profits

2018-07-06 20:12:06 UTC

they seem to care quite a bit

2018-07-06 20:12:16 UTC

Wot? @wacka

2018-07-06 20:12:36 UTC

@Timcast ^teach him bro

2018-07-06 20:12:58 UTC

I think a section of google does, but i doubt the board of directors or investors in google care about ideology.

2018-07-06 20:13:22 UTC

tfw google went evil right after they hired moot

2018-07-06 20:13:28 UTC

if ideology gets in the way of profits, they will u-turn

2018-07-06 20:13:29 UTC

<:serval_think:417278336100990995>

2018-07-06 20:13:31 UTC

I think it's partially true. The ideology can often be part of their marketing strategy, used to make money. Look at all the companies who push progressive ideas very vocally.

2018-07-06 20:13:57 UTC

i think also its the violent people they are worried about too

2018-07-06 20:13:57 UTC

google doesn't care about ideology *cough James Damore cough*

2018-07-06 20:14:24 UTC

yeah that memo was leaked... they didnt fire him until it was leaked

2018-07-06 20:14:40 UTC

on the flip side google shot down the employee petition to tie exec compensation to diversity metrics

2018-07-06 20:14:43 UTC

when they thought they might get bad PR and lose profits

2018-07-06 20:14:53 UTC

or get fire bombed by antifa

2018-07-06 20:15:01 UTC

So then it's probably safe to say that Google's bottom line is about public image

2018-07-06 20:15:01 UTC

which leads to lost profits

2018-07-06 20:15:16 UTC

You are mostly correct wacka, except the HR ppl. The HR ppl care deeply about ideology.

2018-07-06 20:15:27 UTC

i'm sure they have insurance to cover antifa attacks

2018-07-06 20:15:35 UTC

I remember Tim brought up something that put mainsteam media and modern marketing as part of "the resistance"

2018-07-06 20:15:54 UTC

i think thats true for most big corps, the difference is where you draw the line to maintain a certain image vs all other business factors

2018-07-06 20:16:34 UTC

and if tnsurance companies see people shouting google is full of nazis and it looks like antifa are gonna burn them down and hack them and all that crap... what do you think will happen to googles insurance premiums?

2018-07-06 20:16:38 UTC

back to profits

2018-07-06 20:17:10 UTC

yeah sorry but insurance companies can't do that because that's assessing risk after it arises

2018-07-06 20:17:14 UTC

@vlnc.co what is your project about ?

2018-07-06 20:17:16 UTC

yeah but for example if they cant hire good ppl because they feel that google discriminates against them - also lost profits

2018-07-06 20:17:32 UTC

im interested for sure

2018-07-06 20:17:33 UTC

So far as I'm aware, insurance companies aren't allowed to jack up rates because of a threat of external property destruction

2018-07-06 20:18:07 UTC

sure they can

2018-07-06 20:18:30 UTC

They can, but it would be generally frowned upon to do so pre-emptively

2018-07-06 20:19:03 UTC

my friend phoned his insurance company to tell them someone broke his window wiper... which he paid for himself... later that month he got his insurance bill.. which nearly doubled

2018-07-06 20:19:04 UTC

@Graylan | gray00 it is similar to steemit where ppl can super-like posts to give it more publicity and to contribute to the author with real money, minus the pyramid scheme-ness of steemit. I made a short post describing my motivations for creating it here: https://www.vlnc.co/post/XXTMYJQNoBMZZ4SBb

2018-07-06 20:19:25 UTC

they classed it as "theft"

2018-07-06 20:19:31 UTC

But that's not a threat of external property damage, that's actual external property damage

2018-07-06 20:19:38 UTC

and put him in a high risk of theft area

2018-07-06 20:19:44 UTC

well, regardless it depends on your contract with the insurance company

2018-07-06 20:19:44 UTC

I'm saying a threat of such doesn't let the insurance company jack up rates

2018-07-06 20:19:59 UTC

a lot of property insurers will have clauses saying they reserve the right to increase premiums in particular circumstances

2018-07-06 20:20:00 UTC

@vlnc.co cool. i understand people's concrern about steem. but the thing is it's free to pull data from the chain. also free to sign up

2018-07-06 20:20:10 UTC

so i kinda disagree with its a pyramid

2018-07-06 20:20:14 UTC

maybe its different in the UK

2018-07-06 20:20:18 UTC

I doubt any would say that if ANTIFA threatens you for not being "diverse" enough then your premiums go up

2018-07-06 20:20:22 UTC

It's no more a pyramid than say Tesla stock

2018-07-06 20:20:36 UTC

9.5% inflation per year. means without new users price goes down

2018-07-06 20:20:58 UTC

a threat by an official terrorist organisation could easily be reason for jacking up premiums

2018-07-06 20:21:03 UTC

so in that way yes, pyramid. but it requires no money to earn.. Plenty of friends have earned 15,000usd in a year or so with no initial investment

2018-07-06 20:21:34 UTC

whales invest give it value really. like btc at year two has high inflation and large % of steem owned by @steemit account

2018-07-06 20:21:37 UTC

It might be a reason for jacking up premiums, but as I said earlier, it would be generally frowned upon or considered bad business practice

2018-07-06 20:22:09 UTC

Generally, insurance companies are not supposed to jack up your rates unless you're the one at fault

2018-07-06 20:22:11 UTC

this sounds like a matter of fact rather than opinion and nobody has cited any sources

2018-07-06 20:22:19 UTC

the best feature steem provides is an unchangable ledger . for example im building service that reviews journalists. via delegated stake

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