no 3rd party either you can earn

Like someone who will work you to the bone

Most of the workers in any company aren't educated about what helps the company

You want the guy whos easy on everyone

Give alot of benefits

Like dems and the US

it's a democractized workplace inside the crypto / bitcoin economy

I should also remind everyone here that this actually did happen once in a small republic immediately after world war two

For instance, the boss is chosen because he knows about financial decisions, and how the value of the company matters

They formed comitees to vote on things and even held a council of elected representatives to make changes for the country.

This country is currently known as the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea

Oh jesus

if that works for the company but the thing is capatlism needs room to work

Well atleast the name was true at first

so obviously capatlism didnt have enough room to work

in NK

Dude look at singapore

In history we have a saying: "If a country has democratic or peoples republic of in its name, it is neither"

They started of dirt poor

And are one of the smallest countries in the world

they have strong position in trade

But in less than a quarter century, they're one of the best countries on the planet

Authoritarian yes

nothing wrong with that but it's a result of debt boom peroid

But still really really rich

With high standards of living

just like USA and canada etc

They had full free market with minimal taxes

they used debt to boom the country

But democratizing the workplaces still isn't communism

No, hes a socialist and hes very adamant about that

Doesn't socialism require a state?

views himself as completely split from marxists, lenninists and maoists

They are authoritharian

But I wouldnt call it socialist

Singapore I mean

all the isms are bullcrap if you go full ism

you gotta mix isms

He was very clear that he would like to have free market socialism

mixin the isms means you can take good parts , thats current system

@GingaBomber Singapore is Capitalism, free markets. I know man

mix capatlism and socailism and authortianism

You get a mess

change that to captalism socalism and just Justice

You get the Nordic model

You get democratic socialism

@Deleted User does singapore have fire engines

Thats literally just free market welfare states

@Graylan | gray00 idk man I don't live there

Singapore has a compulsoury national service

Thats what he wants, but with democratic control over the workplaces

They have great roads

And that also counts firefighters

Their trains have gone pretty bad recently though

roads are private? , my point is they have socialism in aspects

government paying for infrastructure

Government giving things isn't socialism mate

@Blackhawk342 You actually have those in the US in places.

1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

They usually don't grow very big. But can sorta work on very small scales at times.

I dont like when socialists make that argument

As long as it doesnt grow larger than a village it can work

@Blackhawk342 That's your communists' definition of Communism?

The govt providing certain services people are forced to pay for is not socialist

No thats the dictionary definition of socialism

im not a anything its been warpedf rom that

That's just statist

Not socialist

socai demcocracy is what bernie ran on

socail

What my person wants to see is a nordic model but with democratic control of workplaces

social democrat or some shit

I think we need to sorta separate things a bit.

There's a couple key things here:

he wants to pay for ur shit

aka social

He wants rich people to pay "their fair share"

@Blackhawk342 How long would a workplace last democratically?

@GingaBomber taxs r theft tho

How long will a company last democratically?

Imagine how hard it is to start a company only for you to be kicked out

That depends, i know there are certain companies like that

VICE ran a story about a democratically controlled bakery

I wonder if they'll even make it through month without factions forming in the companies

when the has private banks printing unlimited debt money tax is bullshit just saying.

(1) Government provision of services
(2) Ownership of Personal Property
(3) Ownership of productive property
(4) Government based redistribution (charity is something else)

Like how about customers?

There's a bookstore in Seattle that is in trouble that has been a coop.

they can spend all the military money on tax and its like 1% of what taxes get govt wide

Shareholders should be in charge

that is the scam prisions and military

Coops can sorta work on small scales. I'm pretty pro-free market, but if people want Coops I'm all for it.

make ppl dumb so they go to priso

They tend to have lots of free rider problems mostly.

then make loads of bombs

tax the normies

And issues planning ahead.

rich ppl dont pay tax

btw

trump he hasnt paid in years