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But still really really rich
With high standards of living
just like USA and canada etc
They had full free market with minimal taxes
they used debt to boom the country
But democratizing the workplaces still isn't communism
No, hes a socialist and hes very adamant about that
Doesn't socialism require a state?
views himself as completely split from marxists, lenninists and maoists
They are authoritharian
But I wouldnt call it socialist
Singapore I mean
all the isms are bullcrap if you go full ism
you gotta mix isms
He was very clear that he would like to have free market socialism
mixin the isms means you can take good parts , thats current system
@GingaBomber Singapore is Capitalism, free markets. I know man
mix capatlism and socailism and authortianism
You get a mess
change that to captalism socalism and just Justice
You get democratic socialism
@Deleted User does singapore have fire engines
Thats literally just free market welfare states
@Graylan | gray00 idk man I don't live there
Singapore has a compulsoury national service
Thats what he wants, but with democratic control over the workplaces
They have great roads
And that also counts firefighters
Their trains have gone pretty bad recently though
roads are private? , my point is they have socialism in aspects
government paying for infrastructure
Government giving things isn't socialism mate
@Blackhawk342 You actually have those in the US in places.
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
They usually don't grow very big. But can sorta work on very small scales at times.
I dont like when socialists make that argument
As long as it doesnt grow larger than a village it can work
@Blackhawk342 That's your communists' definition of Communism?
The govt providing certain services people are forced to pay for is not socialist
No thats the dictionary definition of socialism